EMS Sasuke vs Juubito

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All these retarded blitz arguments even though Sasuke adjusted to, and managed to tag Obito with Susanoo. Lol
Having your eyes adjusted to someone does not mean a blitz can't occur you should know your boy friends eyes well enough already! Just because Sasuke can see him with his eyes, does not mean he can react to what he does! #Learn2Sharingan

Jubito was floating around in the sky and that's not equivalent to him using Shunshin to evade attacks. You assume they forced him to block but the evidence points to he wanted them to attack because he wanted to be done with fighting them because he turned their own attack against them and stomped them neg difficulty.

Sasuke can't react to a v1 Jubito blitz and was about to be dead save for Minato, manga fact.

He blitzes and erases Sasuke.
Nukes Sasuke and erases him.
Swallows him with Truth Seeking Balls.

Take your pick. The same happens to BSM Naruto too. Neither of them can defeat him alone, in v1 or v2.
 

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Having your eyes adjusted to someone does not mean a blitz can't occur you should know your boy friends eyes well enough already! Just because Sasuke can see him with his eyes, does not mean he can react to what he does! #Learn2Sharingan
Sasuke tracked his movement, AND REACTED BY HITTING HIM WITH HIS SUSANOO, or at least forcing Obito to block instead of evading. L2Read the manga and stop bitching.

Jubito was floating around in the sky and that's not equivalent to him using Shunshin to evade attacks. You assume they forced him to block but the evidence points to he wanted them to attack because he wanted to be done with fighting them because he turned their own attack against them and stomped them neg difficulty.
You are going to need proof that Flight prevents him from using his full speed and/or that V2 Juubito flies slower than V1 Juubito Shunshin's. People like Onoki and Deidara fly faster than they Shunshin.

Sasuke can't react to a v1 Jubito blitz and was about to be dead save for Minato, manga fact.
Sasuke tracked, reacted to, and tagged V2 Juubito. Manga fact.

He blitzes and erases Sasuke.
Gudo Dama can't negate Ninjutsu in this stage, if that is what you are referring to, they get tanked by Susanoo, and he isn't blitzing shit.

Nukes Sasuke and erases him.
With what? Gudo Dama? Once again, they get tanked. He can't use Bijuu Dama in this stage.

Swallows him with Truth Seeking Balls.
What the hell is this supposed to mean? Lmao.


Take your pick. The same happens to BSM Naruto too. Neither of them can defeat him alone, in v1 or v2.
v1 Juubito stands no chance of beating BSM Naruto. No chance whatsoever.
 

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Sasuke should win both scenarios.

S1: Juubito's Gudo Dama explosion is the only technique that'll could be an issue, mainly because we don't know how powerful it really is. Obito was able to tank one with another Gudo Dama, while Naruto's Senjutsu Bijuu Dama was cracking the Gudo Dama, so I don't think its as powerful as a Bijuu Dama. It wasn't negated either since they orbs contain Rikudo Senjutsu. Obito was able to use a Gudo Dama shield to block Sasuke's attacks in canon, but he can't manipulate it to that extent in this state, so he can't block Sasuke's attacks here. He can't evade them either. Both Naruto and Sasuke couldn't hit him before, , and Sasuke started to be able to see his movements, (So no, no one is getting blitzed, especially since the gaps in Juubito's actions due to his state, and the fact that Sasuke knows what to expect, means he'll enter Susanoo ASAP) So Sasuke should take this, if I'm not forgetting about any of Juubito's capabilities.

S2: Same as above basically, but instead of attacking with a Senjutsu V3 Susanoo, he attacks Juubito with a Senjutsu enhanced Perfect Susanoo armored onto Full Kurama. The Bijuu Dama barrage should end Juubito. While the Dama aren't Senjutsu themselves, they can still wreck the Gudo Dama as they can't negate Senjutsu when Obito is like this, and the blades themselves would be Senjutsu as they come from Sasuke's Susanoo, so they should cut him to bits before exploding.

I still don't think Sasuke could follow Juubito's Shunshin, he was only following his flight at that point. Shunshin is the combination of one's own quickness enhanced by a quick burst of chakra, ratcheting up your speed. Flight is simply chakra enhanced.

*Edit: I set the Starting distance to 50 Meters so there wouldn't be any real blitz argumetns anyway.​
 
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I still don't think Sasuke could follow Juubito's Shunshin, he was only following his flight at that point. Shunshin is the combination of one's own quickness enhanced by a quick burst of chakra, ratcheting up your speed. Flight is simply chakra enhanced.

*Edit: I set the Starting distance to 50 Meters so there wouldn't be any real blitz argumetns anyway.​
I thought that Shunshin was just a quick burst of chakra and nothing else. Quickness factors in when referring to a character's attack, like how Juubito blitzed Hashirama's clone. Flight may just be chakra enhanced, but Kaguya's high speed movement has come from her flight, like reacting to and evading Sasuke's Teleportation attack. She did that with flight. I don't see why V2 Juubito's flight speed should be slower than his Shunshin speed.

Yeah, that too. Don't know why I see blitz arguments though. One way or another, its not happening.



Sasuke tagged Obito?
He forced him to block instead of attacking, so no he didn't tag him. My bad. Lol.
 

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by feats, Sasuke wins since Juubito is restricted to onmyouton weaponry.

By hype, mindless Juubito > Hashirama > EMS Sasuke w/ CS.
 

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Sasuke tracked his movement, AND REACTED BY HITTING HIM WITH HIS SUSANOO, or at least forcing Obito to block instead of evading. L2Read the manga and stop bitching.
Once again, they didn't force him to do anything. They were not pressuring him whatsoever! The fact that he stomped them zero difficulty when he felt like it is evidence of this.

You are going to need proof that Flight prevents him from using his full speed and/or that V2 Juubito flies slower than V1 Juubito Shunshin's. People like Onoki and Deidara fly faster than they Shunshin.
One is in constant motion when they are in flight. Shunshin is not a continuous movement and can't be used continuously as far as we know. It is a quick, sudden, high burst of speed that lasts a few seconds, if that. Onoki doesn't even use shunshin. He can't be on his feet because it affects his back and that is why he always flies so thats a false claim. You have no proof Deidara flies faster than he shunshins either. You can't even begin to compare them because one is sudden burst and the other is a continuous motion that can build up speed over time. If someone in flight builds up speed then yes, they might eventually move faster than someone using Shunshin but if the person takes off in flight at the same time someone uses shunshin, then the one who shunshins will cover a distance quicker than the person in flight similar in . Tsuande uses her shunshin from the ground to reach Madara in the sky and hit him virtually the same time Ay+Onoki did in flight, despite them being just a couple feet from him already and she was no where to be seen.

Sasuke tracked, reacted to, and tagged V2 Juubito. Manga fact.
Juubito got attacked from both sides. Picture Naruto not attacking Juubito from his other side and Sasuke just swinging his sword at him. What happens? Do you think he still gets tagged or he dodges a straightforward linear slash? Jubito has better speed feats in V1 than V2 mostly because he stayed in flight all while V2 and we never got to see him shunshin. We do know however V1 Juubito blitz Sasuke with shunshin no difficulty and thats what will occur again.

Gudo Dama can't negate Ninjutsu in this stage, if that is what you are referring to, they get tanked by Susanoo, and he isn't blitzing shit.
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They erased Hiruzen's Shuriken and Sasuke's Susanoo. I also have a reason for how Hiruzen survived them if you want to throw in that excuse, so shoot. The TSB is not something he activates neither, so he does not need to be in the right state of mind for their affect to occur, it just does.

This fanfic Sasuke dies as the real one did before my boyfriend (Minato) saved his ass.
 

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There is nothing in EMS Sasuke's arsenal that can kill Juubito.Its as simple as that...Juubito can dodge/tank everything Sasuke can come up with, while Juubito will eventually grab Sasuke's head and squash it.

All these stupid arguments about sasuke being able to tag juubito? LMAO he can play tag all day but he still won't be able to kill Juubito, while Juubito is faster than BM Naruto, one slash from Juubito will pulverize Sasuke.

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Yup, it says, Strongest and most dangerous, incase ppl can't read. and at that time we already had BM Naruto, EMS Sasuke,Edo Madara and Edo Kages......Kishi's words, nothing left to argue.
 
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Once again, they didn't force him to do anything. They were not pressuring him whatsoever! The fact that he stomped them zero difficulty when he felt like it is evidence of this.
-He was dodging them the whole time, but when they started seeing their

One is in constant motion when they are in flight. Shunshin is not a continuous movement and can't be used continuously as far as we know. It is a quick, sudden, high burst of speed that lasts a few seconds, if that. Onoki doesn't even use shunshin. He can't be on his feet because it affects his back and that is why he always flies so thats a false claim. You have no proof Deidara flies faster than he shunshins either. You can't even begin to compare them because one is sudden burst and the other is a continuous motion that can build up speed over time. If someone in flight builds up speed then yes, they might eventually move faster than someone using Shunshin but if the person takes off in flight at the same time someone uses shunshin, then the one who shunshins will cover a distance quicker than the person in flight similar in . Tsuande uses her shunshin from the ground to reach Madara in the sky and hit him virtually the same time Ay+Onoki did in flight, despite them being just a couple feet from him already and she was no where to be seen.
It being a sudden burst of speed isn't evidence that its faster than flight, nor do they build up speed. They have shown to fly at the same speeds, all the time. If that logic was used as evidence, then Shunshin would be faster, period, just because its a burst of chakra.

@bold: 1. That wasn't at the same time. 2. They were doing a combination attack, she can't fall to slow behind so there is no way that they'd go so far ahead of her and strike way before she did.
Forget about Deidara, he doesn't even fly using his body.

Juubito got attacked from both sides. Picture Naruto not attacking Juubito from his other side and Sasuke just swinging his sword at him. What happens? Do you think he still gets tagged or he dodges a straightforward linear slash? Jubito has better speed feats in V1 than V2 mostly because he stayed in flight all while V2 and we never got to see him shunshin. We do know however V1 Juubito blitz Sasuke with shunshin no difficulty and thats what will occur again.
Yes, he does. Being attacked from both sides doesn't mean much when he can fly in literally every single direction. Juubito was forced to block, cause he couldn't evade. No reason otherwise. So no, he isn't getting blitzed, not at 50 meters, and not when he can react, as the manga shows.

Juubito tagged KCM Minato before he could warp, and Berserk Juubito tagged Tobirama, but not before the latter tagged him 5 times. I wonder which one is the better feat. Lmao.


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They erased Hiruzen's Shuriken and Sasuke's Susanoo. I also have a reason for how Hiruzen survived them if you want to throw in that excuse, so shoot. The TSB is not something he activates neither, so he does not need to be in the right state of mind for their affect to occur, it just does.
Disintegrated=/=Erased. Its already stated that its like Jinton, and I don't care about your excuse as its most likely not applicable. Hiruzen got hit by the Gudo Dama and came back. Tobirama got hit, and came back. Meaning it does not negate Ninjutsu, nor can it negate Sasuke's attacks anyway since he uses Rikudo's Chakra.

This fanfic Sasuke dies as the real one did before my boyfriend (Minato) saved his ass.
Nope.
 

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There is nothing in EMS Sasuke's arsenal that can kill Juubito.Its as simple as that...Juubito can dodge/tank everything Sasuke can come up with, while Juubito will eventually grab Sasuke's head and squash it.
Juubito couldn't dodge Sasuke's sword slash or Naruto's claw in canon as they were able to see his movements, and he can't tank shit. He got hurt by an SM Rasengan, Senjutsu Susanoo carves him up.

All these stupid arguments about sasuke being able to tag juubito? LMAO he can play tag all day but he still won't be able to kill Juubito, while Juubito is faster than BM Naruto, one slash from Juubito will pulverize Sasuke.
Manga disagrees. Juubito was forced to block. Easy to call an argument stupid when not only do you not have your own, it goes against your fap idol.



Yup, it says, Strongest and most dangerous, incase ppl can't read. and at that time we already had BM Naruto, EMS Sasuke,Edo Madara and Edo Kages......Kishi's words, nothing left to argue.
Irrelevant.

1. Not Kishi's words.

2. Juubito is stronger than EMS Sasuke, but he loses in his mindless state. Its as simple as that.
 

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Sasuke eyes developed when fighting V2 Juubito so he is use to keeping up with his speed. With Senjutsu chakra it was able to clash with Gudo[ ]. So blitzing isn't going to shatter Susanoo as easy he did previously.
yeah but his reactions were still the same...
and next page to that scan shows sasuke on ground without susano...
obito has too much fire power, his chakra arms alone have feats that can bypass sasuke's susano's durability...
 

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I thought that Shunshin was just a quick burst of chakra and nothing else. Quickness factors in when referring to a character's attack, like how Juubito blitzed Hashirama's clone. Flight may just be chakra enhanced, but Kaguya's high speed movement has come from her flight, like reacting to and evading Sasuke's Teleportation attack. She did that with flight. I don't see why V2 Juubito's flight speed should be slower than his Shunshin speed.
Naw, you drive chakra into your legs, so its combination of your own quickness and chakra. That's the reason why KCM Naruto is so fast, his Non-Shunshin speed is already some high tier characters Shunshin speed. Then the amount of chakra he has in combination of how strong that chakra is gives him an incredible Shunshin.

Its the same as with Onoki and Deidara. She just doesn't use Shunshin, flight is more her style. Her flight is faster because of that.​
 
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