There's no plot twist coming soon guys - it's over.

[Imaginesafety]

Nope. We have
Orochimaru
Madara
Hokages
Naruto VS Sasuke

Oro is fodder to Naruto, Kakashi, and Sasuke. Sasuke before his powerup defeated him, they won't have trouble now.

 

[-Haku Yuki-]

Nope. We have
Orochimaru

If he even tries anything naruto can solo him now

Madara

he's on the floor I doubt he's getting up and if he does once again naruto and sasuke can take him easy


Hokages


They just need to be released that takes on panel and maybe a father son hug between minato and naruto


Naruto VS Sasuke


maybe maybe not, maybe in the last, or maybe it won't happen

responses in bold

 

[cafe123]

I agree, it's over. People want the manga to continue on, but I think it's best to let it end now.

 

[lordmadarauchiha]

Plot twist to come next chapter: Naruto and Sasuke took 1 minute to long and everyone who was in IT is now dead.

Agreed,a last **** you from Evil Madara and Kaguya.

I refuse to believe it gnna end without madara getting a comeback and the most brilliant one in naruto history.It will surpass his reincarnation,the time when he faked his death and his complete resurrection.

 

[Angelic.]

kaguyas backstory, hamura, ninja tools, spiral zetsu, bijuu, sasuke, kages, rds, oro?

those are on my mind.

 

[Zol]

I tend to agree, as I don't see any obvious twist now (especially not this Hagoromo is evil crap). Madara was done as a villain ever since his goal was revealed as a lie, it didn't matter if and in what shape he would return, and now he returned completely stripped of probably every powerup he got after his death against Hashirama at Vote, so...

The only apparent issue is Naruto vs Sasuke, but even that may happen in some form (the Last?) or may not happen at all, it won't be a fight to save the world anyway, more like an epilogue battle.

It's a real bummer if I think about what Kishi could have done with the whole story about Kaguya, her sons, the Shinju etc. I mean, the basic plot works as it is, but he left out all the flashbacks, explanations etc. that would have made this finale way better.

 

[Jako98146]

Yeah, pretty much. But actually, the only other thing is, will they just kill Madara, or spam him with TNJ to convert him to good, like Obito

 

[Aim64C]

I tend to agree, as I don't see any obvious twist now (especially not this Hagoromo is evil crap). Madara was done as a villain ever since his goal was revealed as a lie, it didn't matter if and in what shape he would return, and now he returned completely stripped of probably every powerup he got after his death against Hashirama at Vote, so...

You don't find it odd that the Sage of Six Paths sent himself into the future to re-seal his mother?

Such a man with the foresight to see such a potential conflict would -surely- know what people would end up doing with Ninshuu.

So why is he dabbling around in the future, again?

Or... if people were so hideously abusing Ninshuu and he was such a great guy... why not come back and say: "Hey... y'all are doing it wrong?"

I mean - he's already established that he will send himself into the future to prevent a horrible disaster - so why wait until -now- to do it - when so much raw power is floating around?

Whatever he is about to do is not going to sit very well with Naruto (or Sasuke).

And... the 'world is saved' - ... but where is everyone in Infinite Tsukuyomi?

It's not over until the crowd cheers for Naruto.

The only apparent issue is Naruto vs Sasuke, but even that may happen in some form (the Last?) or may not happen at all, it won't be a fight to save the world anyway, more like an epilogue battle.

It's actually very simple. Sasuke wishes to destroy the world and create a new one. To do that - he needs the power that Madara sought. This is what the Sage of Six Paths was hinting at in his conversation with Sasuke. This is the significance of Sasuke carrying the Waxing Gibbous. Naruto wishes for the world to become a place of understanding and acceptance - for it to return to the way it was before war. Hence why Naruto carried the Full Moon.

It's a real bummer if I think about what Kishi could have done with the whole story about Kaguya, her sons, the Shinju etc. I mean, the basic plot works as it is, but he left out all the flashbacks, explanations etc. that would have made this finale way better.

That's because this isn't the finale.

Did you not think it somewhat out of character for Naruto to seal away Kaguya without a single concern for who she was?

Naruto's about pounding in the face of people who need it - but he's not too big on ignoring the suffering - even of his enemies. That lapse of character is going to play back into things. Kaguya should never have been sealed.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Actually , what to do with all the tail beast has not yet been settled. It calls a for a small twist.

Pretty sure the tailed beasts will be allowed to live peacefully in freedom.

 

[Aim64C]

Pretty sure the tailed beasts will be allowed to live peacefully in freedom.

With people who can seal them to exploit their power?

Nope.

The Sage will not allow that. That goes against his vision of peace for the world.

The only one who can accept that is Naruto. The true solution to peace is not to create peace - but, instead, to find it. It's a minor distinction of vocabulary but a massive difference in application.

To create peace implies a responsibility to -do- ; to find peace implies a responsibility of awareness.

Creating peace is like breathing still or stopping to a run. The action of trying to create peace disturbs what you were trying to make peaceful.

The only way to achieve peace is to find peace in the world the way it is and to not seek to change it in ways that you can't. Since you can't control how others see the world and you can't control what they do - the idea of creating a peaceful world is dead on arrival. The moment free will is inserted it collapses completely.

There will always be conflict. But that is how it should be. That is the natural order, the natural flow. Predators hunt prey and there is a conflict - there is nothing imbalanced about it. You just have to learn to accept that your own ideals can conflict with natural reality.

That means one who wishes to see the world become peaceful should spread the teachings of how to find peace rather than try to make people peaceful. This way, even though conflicts may arise - they can be done with each party at peace with those conflicts and in control of their natures.

 

[Angelic.]

ninshuu isnt a bad thing compared to IT , but is it any different? it may be forcing people to understand each other. that sounds weird.
it seemed to work with obito tho.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

With people who can seal them to exploit their power?

Nope.

The Sage will not allow that. That goes against his vision of peace for the world.

The only one who can accept that is Naruto. The true solution to peace is not to create peace - but, instead, to find it. It's a minor distinction of vocabulary but a massive difference in application.

To create peace implies a responsibility to -do- ; to find peace implies a responsibility of awareness.

Creating peace is like breathing still or stopping to a run. The action of trying to create peace disturbs what you were trying to make peaceful.

The only way to achieve peace is to find peace in the world the way it is and to not seek to change it in ways that you can't. Since you can't control how others see the world and you can't control what they do - the idea of creating a peaceful world is dead on arrival. The moment free will is inserted it collapses completely.

There will always be conflict. But that is how it should be. That is the natural order, the natural flow. Predators hunt prey and there is a conflict - there is nothing imbalanced about it. You just have to learn to accept that your own ideals can conflict with natural reality.

That means one who wishes to see the world become peaceful should spread the teachings of how to find peace rather than try to make people peaceful. This way, even though conflicts may arise - they can be done with each party at peace with those conflicts and in control of their natures.

But that's pointless, that's like trying to find pleasure in pain. The world can change, people can change, if given the chance, heck, people have changed just look at society.

 

[Immortal Sasuke]

Sasuke could defeat Naruto in 1 chapter so I think there's still a possibility of a plot twist. All Sasuke has to do is swap places with Naruto's kunai/rasengan/rasen shuriken and cut Nardo's head off.

 

[Aim64C]

But that's pointless, that's like trying to find pleasure in pain. The world can change, people can change, if given the chance, heck, people have changed just look at society.

You could not be further deluded.

The world is always changing and people are always changing.

Peace requires stability. Peace requires security. It requires that one is never presented with a scenario they cannot resolve to their satisfaction.

The -only- way to accomplish that, realistically, is for people to turn the "cycle of suffering" into the "phases of existence." This is all part of Buddhist and Taoist teachings - which Naruto is based extensively off of (well - Japanese Buddhism - which is Taoism expressed in Buddhism wrapped in Shinto artwork and tradition).

When you require the world to be peaceful before you find peace - then you have essentially decided that the world will control how you feel.

Thus, you feel you need to try and control the world in order to control yourself.

This leads to GeDo. Ge - Outside; Do - Way.

The GeDo MaZo is the Outside Way Demon Sculpture. Or more properly translated as the Statue of Demonic Misguidance.

When you decide that the world will control how you feel - you will naturally try to control the world. The world can never be naturally controlled by one person. Even by many people - the world cannot and will not be controlled. Thus, those people will always be suffering. They will always be in conflict with reality.

It is only by accepting reality and working within reality that peace can be achieved. That does not mean that one can't seek to improve the world - but it must be done so within the course of reality. Principles that require the arbitrary rejection of natural processes or realistic limitations will always fail.

Example - Communism requires humans to completely avoid political behavior that is endemic to their species while also requiring an entirely static economy. It does not work in a sentient species. It works for ants because ants don't have individual creativity or individual sentience. Those who try it will always be doomed to failure. Each and every time.

Of course - the 'reason it doesn't work' is because of the 'stupid people' who 'are selfish' - so you have the grounds for conflict, right there. These people will never be happy because they are trying to live in a way that rejects the natural order and that is always accusing others of 'not being with the program.'

Nothing can ever be done to appease them in this reality.

By comparison, people who are continually worried about bills, hunger, etc will never be happy. There will always be some perceived need or desire that must be bargained for. Hunger is something that happens naturally as part of your digestive process - and sometimes you do not always have the resources to satisfy the consumption phase.

Basing your life around: "I will be happy when these things are no longer worries" is just asking for unhappiness. Simply find happiness and enjoyment out of being in those states and focus on what you need to do in order to transition to the next phase.

This is the path of the true Sage. "Nothing is done, yet nothing is left undone."

That contrasts against GeDo. That is the same conclusion that Taoists and Buddhists came to, separately. Seek to do nothing, yet never leave anything in your life undone. That is the Hyuuga way.

 

[SasukexNeji]

When something does happen. Ill remember this thread.

Me too. And I will have the same expression as Itachi does in your sig.





WATCH!

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Kaguya was two entities in one. The Shinju and herself. Not even Hagoromo knew about this. The only person that can explain this is Kaguya herself. So I don't think it's over.

 

[kenshin9880]

Kaguya got sealed, Madara came back but is clearly not even close to being in a fighting state - fool is blown out! Hagoromo isn't gonna betray anyone - you really think the sage of six paths, who the bijuu WERE RAISED BY AND LOVED AND THOUGHT NARUTO WAS IN THE REINCARNATION OF, is gonna betray them? Just accept that the manga's gonna end, these next few chapters are just gonna wrap things we need closure to wrapped up. Stuff like the bijuu, Hokage, Sasuke's path, I.T., Anko if Kishi wants to acknowledge her existence, not things you guys want to believe is there like Orochimaru doing some all hail the King shit (which I would enjoy) but it's not going to happen. The fighting is over. Naruto is at an end. Only real match now is Naruto vs Sasuke.

yuh. happy ending. then author can retire. :bouncy:

 

[Zol]

You don't find it odd that the Sage of Six Paths sent himself into the future to re-seal his mother?

Such a man with the foresight to see such a potential conflict would -surely- know what people would end up doing with Ninshuu.

So why is he dabbling around in the future, again?

Or... if people were so hideously abusing Ninshuu and he was such a great guy... why not come back and say: "Hey... y'all are doing it wrong?"

I mean - he's already established that he will send himself into the future to prevent a horrible disaster - so why wait until -now- to do it - when so much raw power is floating around?

Whatever he is about to do is not going to sit very well with Naruto (or Sasuke).

And... the 'world is saved' - ... but where is everyone in Infinite Tsukuyomi?

It's not over until the crowd cheers for Naruto.



It's actually very simple. Sasuke wishes to destroy the world and create a new one. To do that - he needs the power that Madara sought. This is what the Sage of Six Paths was hinting at in his conversation with Sasuke. This is the significance of Sasuke carrying the Waxing Gibbous. Naruto wishes for the world to become a place of understanding and acceptance - for it to return to the way it was before war. Hence why Naruto carried the Full Moon.



That's because this isn't the finale.

Did you not think it somewhat out of character for Naruto to seal away Kaguya without a single concern for who she was?

Naruto's about pounding in the face of people who need it - but he's not too big on ignoring the suffering - even of his enemies. That lapse of character is going to play back into things. Kaguya should never have been sealed.

Hagoromo never "sent himself into the future to reseal his mother". It's only that a part of his chakra/spirit lingered on and was able to make contact with the transmigrants. He witnessed their life and so saw what happened in the war and what Obito and Madara did. He then helped Naruto/Sasuke to stop that, but still wasn't aware of BZ's plan to bring back Kaguya.

He then later was able to manifest his spirit in the real world, but only through Madara who combined the power of the transmigrants and the Bijuu (He explained that).

So, he never was aware of Kaguya's plan to return nor was he able to appear in the future to warn people about misunderstanding Ninshuu.

 

[Aim64C]

Hagoromo never "sent himself into the future to reseal his mother". It's only that a part of his chakra/spirit lingered on and was able to make contact with the transmigrants. He witnessed their life and so saw what happened in the war and what Obito and Madara did. He then helped Naruto/Sasuke to stop that, but still wasn't aware of BZ's plan to bring back Kaguya.

He then later was able to manifest his spirit in the real world, but only through Madara who combined the power of the transmigrants and the Bijuu (He explained that).

So, he never was aware of Kaguya's plan to return nor was he able to appear in the future to warn people about misunderstanding Ninshuu.

And he just so happened to have his 'lingering spirit' equipped with the power to seal his mother?

And that 'lingering spirit' reconstituted himself from Madara's chakra to summon Naruto, Sasuke, and team back WHILE REVIVING DEAD KAGE?

Naruto knew where Black Zetsu was hiding all along but the Sage of Six Paths didn't once notice Black Zetsu?

He left behind a prophecy to the Tailed Beasts saying that they would one day be shown the correct path while he sends his 'lingering spirit' to 'see what happens to Ninshuu?'

He knew exactly what would happen.

And where did the chakra he gave to humans for the purpose of Ninshuu come from in the first place? It was said to be part of the Ten Tails' chakra... so... what gives?

The Sage has been playing innocent all of this time - but he's always been acting. He's silenced Naruto's questions regarding Kaguya.

Which is another interesting little tidbit.

Kaguya - this woman who sought the power of the fruit to put an end to the suffering of humans, who also gave that fruit's power to her sons, decided to all of a sudden turn into an autocratic monster who hated her own sons and wanted nothing more than to reclaim chakra?

Something isn't quite right there.

Of course - Naruto was convinced to seal her before actually getting any kind of a story out of her. You know - the guy who normally talks with his enemies and finds some understanding in them (even if he still has to kill them). He doesn't even bother with Kaguya. He's just: "Yeah - let's seal this *****!"

He's going to find out, very soon, that he should have bothered to hear what the Sage did not tell him about her.

 

[ultraChalk]

The ride never ends op.

The ride never ends.