[Spoilers] If this is the end, the arc was pointless and it makes no sense(Read why)

[neohkor]

Agreed. But what can we expect from a shounen manga...heck dragonball asspulls are more than this and it is still considered one of the manga that held huge influence to the manga world now..got to live with that though. * I am as dissapointed as you are with kishi's method of dealing with kaguya, he should shorten the edo kages(including other edo's) fight to make this arc better..damn the war arc

 

[neosmith500]

No, Kishi is. The things I stated should be impossible.

Yep i agree full..even if kaguya used ntn but hyuuga centric abillities,it wouldve surely stoped that lame tactic by team 7 ..kakashi planed it but did not take her byakugan into consideration or is it kishi that didn't considerate?..anyway if byakugan was taken into consideration that plan would be null an void from the moment she shot kakashi with bone spears,she should seen that he was not hit and that he was prepin a jutsu with her byakugan..making kamui chidori useless..op already stated why transformation was bullshit..she coulda chakra blasted dem to obito sinse she got even more power than wen she slapped sasukes sussanoo out the air!!!!.. an sakura? just dies

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Please show me where a byakugan user was able to see through a transformation jutsu, or even that a transformation jutsu looks like to a byakugan user.

Since when can a transformation jutsu change the chakra to be like the person they are posing? Remember Ao noticing that Danzo had Shisui's eye due to see the Uchiha's chakra in his eye socket?

 

[neosmith500]

Since when can a transformation jutsu change the chakra to be like the person they are posing? Remember Ao noticing that Danzo had Shisui's eye due to see the Uchiha's chakra in his eye socket?

thats another thing..the byakugan gives color to chakra and naru and sasuke,ashura/Indra surely has diff colors

 

[poopieface]

Yeah, if this is really the end then you're right. It's a pointless, shitty arc. But it didn't feel like the real ending. There's no way. That rabbit has to mean something. We didn't even get a whole flashback history about her, and you know Kishi doesn't end villains just like that. Only Orochimaru was treated like trash by Kishi that way--because he wasn't really dead.

 

[Draxus]

Since when can a transformation jutsu change the chakra to be like the person they are posing? Remember Ao noticing that Danzo had Shisui's eye due to see the Uchiha's chakra in his eye socket?

Byakugan sees chakra's color and we can assume people have slightly unique hues to can differentiate them if the Byakugan user has seen it before. However...

Since when can't a transformation jutsu change the color of chakra to be like the person they are posing? This is Naruto we're talking about here, who's mastered the ability to have syncing and manipulating chakra with rikudo powers on top. Doesn't seem impossible for his transformation jutsu to be several 100 tiers above the average.

 

[LogicnoJutsu]

Your logic is flawed

1. Byakugan cannot tell the difference between Shadow Clones, rematch Naruto vs Neji noob, not to mention the fact that it was invented by the Second Hokage, who lived GENERATIONS after kaguyas death, she doesn't even know of its existence, just that there are obviously clones of Naruto.

2. It has been already stated that the only way to damage Juubi Jinchurikis is Taijutsu and Sage techniques. SO why are you *****ing that Sakura got a hit in, is it just because her name is Saukra? Did you miss Gai vs Madara?, noob (Also she doesn't blast out chakra from her fist, its like Gons Janken just more focused. Its all in her fist and it is just added to her physical strength. So according to your Logic Tsunade should never have landed a hit on Madara or his Susanoo. XD

3. She didn't use the blast attack because she's focusing on a Giant TBB atm. Never in Naruto history have i seen someone without a Clone perform 2 separate Powerful jutsus that require intense focus performed simultaneously. Not to mention she didn't notice Sakura above her. Bones and small dimensions are one thing, blowing yourself up next to a bijuu bomb is mentally retarded.

 

[poopieface]

Your logic is flawed

1. Byakugan cannot tell the difference between Shadow Clones, rematch Naruto vs Neji noob, not to mention the fact that it was invented by the Second Hokage, who lived GENERATIONS after kaguyas death, she doesn't even know of its existence, just that there are obviously clones of Naruto.

2. It has been already stated that the only way to damage Juubi Jinchurikis is Taijutsu and Sage techniques. SO why are you *****ing that Sakura got a hit in, is it just because her name is Saukra? Did you miss Gai vs Madara?, noob (Also she doesn't blast out chakra from her fist, its like Gons Janken just more focused. Its all in her fist and it is just added to her physical strength. So according to your Logic Tsunade should never have landed a hit on Madara or his Susanoo. XD

3. She didn't use the blast attack because she's focusing on a Giant TBB atm. Never in Naruto history have i seen someone without a Clone perform 2 separate Powerful jutsus that require intense focus performed simultaneously. Not to mention she didn't notice Sakura above her. Bones and small dimensions are one thing, blowing yourself up next to a bijuu bomb is mentally retarded.

About your first point, you're talking about shadow clones. Shadow clones are copies of your own self, so the chakra signature in each clone is the same, and hence Neji was trolled. That's not the same as a transformation jutsu, with which you pretend you're someone else. A transformation jutsu merely masks your outward appearance, but it can't change your actual inner chakra.

Your second point kind of discounts the fact that Kaguya's had her byakugan on, and byakugan users can't be snuck up on. She should have seen Sakura coming, although, yeah, she was distracted by Naruto/Sasuke/Kakashi. Still, Kaguya could have just teleported to another dimension again, like the Super Gravity or the Ice world. Even if Sasuke has amaterasu, it would have bought her just enough time to not be sealed. She just didn't do it because plot.

Third point, she should have made some clones then. Why is it that the only offensive moves this ***** knew were chakra punching, bone-throwing, and hair whipping? The final villain had three moves? Unacceptable, she obviously understood jutsus and how they worked judging by her analyses, so she should have been able to copy shadow clone from Naruto with her cracked out Sharingan.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Byakugan sees chakra's color and we can assume people have slightly unique hues to can differentiate them if the Byakugan user has seen it before. However...

Since when can't a transformation jutsu change the color of chakra to be like the person they are posing? This is Naruto we're talking about here, who's mastered the ability to have syncing and manipulating chakra with rikudo powers on top. Doesn't seem impossible for his transformation jutsu to be several 100 tiers above the average.

Kaguya can tell Ashura and Indra's chakra apart. Second paragraph is just baseless fanon.

Your logic is flawed

1. Byakugan cannot tell the difference between Shadow Clones, rematch Naruto vs Neji noob, not to mention the fact that it was invented by the Second Hokage, who lived GENERATIONS after kaguyas death, she doesn't even know of its existence, just that there are obviously clones of Naruto.

2. It has been already stated that the only way to damage Juubi Jinchurikis is Taijutsu and Sage techniques. SO why are you *****ing that Sakura got a hit in, is it just because her name is Saukra? Did you miss Gai vs Madara?, noob (Also she doesn't blast out chakra from her fist, its like Gons Janken just more focused. Its all in her fist and it is just added to her physical strength. So according to your Logic Tsunade should never have landed a hit on Madara or his Susanoo. XD

3. She didn't use the blast attack because she's focusing on a Giant TBB atm. Never in Naruto history have i seen someone without a Clone perform 2 separate Powerful jutsus that require intense focus performed simultaneously. Not to mention she didn't notice Sakura above her. Bones and small dimensions are one thing, blowing yourself up next to a bijuu bomb is mentally retarded.

Lame attempt at damage control.

1. I mentioned nothing about not telling shadow clones apart. Read my post again.

2. She is not a jinchuriki, in both her humaniod and tailed beast form she tanked senjutsu attacks with little damage. Sakura has no senjutsu and she does release chakra from her fist. I post a link stating so on the first page.

3. Pure fanon. BZ said that she is faster and stronger now. Not weaker and she did noticed Sakura. Notice the "!"

 

[Floydical]

OP is flawed, Byakugan can't tell real bodies from clones, ask Neji. It was stated that NINJUTSU didn't work against Juubi jins, please link me the page where Taijutsu doesn't work. Someone sounds butthurt like everyone else on this base.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

thats another thing..the byakugan gives color to chakra and naru and sasuke,ashura/Indra surely has diff colors

When was it shown that the Byakugan can see color?

OP is flawed, Byakugan can't tell real bodies from clones, ask Neji. It was stated that NINJUTSU didn't work against Juubi jins, please link me the page where Taijutsu doesn't work. Someone sounds butthurt like everyone else on this base.

Nicely said.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

OP is flawed, Byakugan can't tell real bodies from clones, ask Neji. It was stated that NINJUTSU didn't work against Juubi jins, please link me the page where Taijutsu doesn't work. Someone sounds butthurt like everyone else on this base.

I'm not talking about clones but transformation jutsu and Sakura just attacks with chakra. I already posted a link explaining it in the first page.

 

[Floydical]

I'm not talking about clones but transformation jutsu and Sakura just attacks with chakra. I already posted a link explaining it in the first page.

Your logic is still flawed. If Kaguya was seeing pure chakra and not even physical appearance then she literally saw two identical chakras attacking her and thus had a 50/50 shot of hitting the right target, so it would have nothing to do with being fooled, just being unlucky. Sakura may use chakra to punch but its still a physical punch and counts as taijutsu, so certainly possible to damage her.

 

[NiiNjuH]

Kaguya has:

-All nature KKG.
-Massive Truth Seeking Ball
-Rabbit Juubi form
-A power up

Kishi shows us her using none of this. Instead he has her playing hide and seek with Naruto for most of the fight. Its show, not tell Kishi. What was the point in giving all these abilities and not use them to make an entertaining fight?

Here is another problem. The way she was seemly(might get trolled the next chapter) defeated.

-Naruto shouldn't be able to fool Kaguya with a transformation jutsu. Because she has the byakugan and has shown that she can use see Ashura and Indra's chakra inside of Naruto and Sasuke. She had it on during the time so she shouldn't even be seeing their flesh and blood. So how can she possibly be fooled by that when she can't see their surface appearance? Plot hole.

-Sakura harming Kaguya with her nintaijutsu. Keep in mind that Sakura doesn't really have super strength. It's just chakra control where she releases a powerful blast of chakra from her fist according to Kakashi. Its like the Rasengan which is pure chakra control where its formed into a ball. Naruto needed to add senjutsu to his Rasengan to harm Rikdou Obito because he was immune to ninjutsu attacks due the black orbs negating the stuff. Kaguya has a massive truth seeking ball close to her. So this shouldn't be possible. Another plot hole.

-Kaguya doesn't use that blast she used to destroy Sasuke's PS when he tried to sneak up her to blow away...why?

I know kishi wants to develop Team 7's teamwork but illogically nerfing their enemies for it to work is just bad writing, imo. He could have done this with Madara whom I'm sure is going die due to having the Gedo and tailed beast removed from him. So we didn't see Madara nor Kaguya fight at full power, that's insane! Kishi is just a lazy troll and has surpassed Kubo in trolling!

HE OUT KUBO'D KUBO!!!

What are your thoughts on the current events of the manga? The only way this can get any worse is Kishi skips Naruto vs Sasuke.

or sakura couldve used, you know, a normal punch

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Your logic is still flawed. If Kaguya was seeing pure chakra and not even physical appearance then she literally saw two identical chakras attacking her and thus had a 50/50 shot of hitting the right target, so it would have nothing to do with being fooled, just being unlucky. Sakura may use chakra to punch but its still a physical punch and counts as taijutsu, so certainly possible to damage her.

She can already tell Ashura and Indra's chakra's apart in chapter 679. Its not physical strength, she is just releasing chakra from her fist.

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Its like body flicker but through her fist. Even if it was taijutsu, are you saying that Sakura's taijustu is on par with Naruto and 8th gated Gai's?

or sakura couldve used, you know, a normal punch

Her normal punch is on par with Naruto?

 

[NiiNjuH]

She can already tell Ashura and Indra's chakra's apart in chapter 679. Its not physical strength, she is just releasing chakra from her fist.

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Its like body flicker but through her fist. Even if it was taijutsu, are you saying that Sakura's taijustu is on par with Naruto and 8th gated Gai's?



Her normal punch is on par with Naruto?

maybe, but if not gravity sure does help. also, who is to say sakura isnt physically strong herself without the help of chakra, they have been practicing martial art since they were children

 

[Floydical]

She can already tell Ashura and Indra's chakra's apart in chapter 679. Its not physical strength, she is just releasing chakra from her fist.

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Its like body flicker but through her fist. Even if it was taijutsu, are you saying that Sakura's taijustu is on par with Naruto and 8th gated Gai's?

What? What does the difference between Ashura's and Indras chakra have to do with it? Let me understand you, you're saying that since the real Naruto was using a transformation of Sasuke, that she shouldn't have been fooled by it? Yet if she was using her Byakugan like you said and was only seeing chakra, then she would have seen two Ashura chakra signatures in front of her right? Since Sasuke's Indra chakra was not actually there. Using that logic, she had two identical Naruto's attacking her and since she can't tell the difference between shadow clones, this means she was hoping the real one was there and could hit it, pure luck.

Don't keep trying to defend your point when you are not even keeping your own claims in order. As for Sakura, the strength of her attack did not matter. All that mattered is that she was in the Byakugan's blind spot, was able to hit her (power of the hit did not matter) and thus temporary interrupt her movement upward allowing for sealing.

 

[neosmith500]

When was it shown that the Byakugan can see color?



Nicely said.

Kage summit..danzo

 

[sexywave]

Kaguya is the most boring and lame villain ever.

 

[GhostProject]

It all happened so fast, but I think the point of the Kaguya arc (if we can call it an arc) was to take the Beasts out of Naruto at the end.

Awhile back Hagaromo said they would be joined together by the savior in "a different form with different names" than they were now if I recall. It's just setting up resolution plot but I agree if you're saying Kaguya was horrible Lol