(DrProof) Kakuzu's Overlooked Kekkei Genkai

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2 things. Earth Grudge Fear is a kinjutsu not a kekkei genkei. Kakuzu does not use scorch style. He doesn't combine the two natures, he uses them together, difference. Wind nature+ Water nature= Ice Style, Wind style jutsu+ Water style jutsu= Combination jutsu.
 
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Clearly some people overrate him and others underrate him, he is a bit of an oddity in the NV and can be hard to judge. As for his techniques, I think his Earth Grudge most closely falls into the category of 'forbidden jutsu' rather than KKG as there is no mention of it being related to his family.

Certainly his use of fire and wind is not a KKG, nor would I even call it a pseudo KKG. Why you ask? Because simply combining the elements is not a KKG, rather its the altering of the 2 elements to become a new element. Wood is a perfect example. If Kakuzu fired water and earth at you at the same time would you call it wood? No wood has unique properties and is a completely new element. Kakuzu's use of Fire and Wind only seems like a pseudo KKG because Fire and Wind simply do not form a clear new element like Water and Earth does.

So no, Kakuzu is simply fanning his flames with wind, not creating Scorch.
 

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And Kakashi can use Mokuton by combining water and wood. Oh, wait he can't? That's not how kkg work.
 

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You learn something new everyday, I didn't know which elements he has depended on the heart he used. Its nice to see a thread like this nowadays.
 

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I don't agree. But I've missed your threads. Lol
 

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Similar to what Naruto, and Sasuke did correct? Naruto used his Wind to make Sasuke Fire stronger. And Minato proclaimed it as Scorch Release due to the properties being similar. That's what I'm saying here Haha. So in a sense, Kakuzu can conjure a Pseudo-Scorch Release.


No no no no! What you are comparing are two different things. Kakuzu didn't 'sync' wind and fire style, one mask threw afireball, and the other threw a wind attack. Kakuzu didn't sync the two jutsu together, he just threw them seperately and nature took it's course. Naruto and Sasuke actually synced their chakras together and stabilised it, if they didn't stabilise and sync it the rasenshuriken would have imploded and scorched both of them. Kakuzu has no such control over his tech, that thing was chaotic and uncontrollable, hence the massive destruction, and it required no syncing of chakras, the masks operate independendly as we saw when he let them roam free earlier on. If you're gonna claim that Kakuzu's wind/fire combo is scorch release because he used wind and fire, then are you gonna tell us now that Naruto and Yamato's Typhoon Water Vortex Technique is Ice Release because they combined water and wind for the technique?
 

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Clearly some people overrate him and others underrate him, he is a bit of an oddity in the NV and can be hard to judge. As for his techniques, I think his Earth Grudge most closely falls into the category of 'forbidden jutsu' rather than KKG as there is no mention of it being related to his family.

Certainly his use of fire and wind is not a KKG, nor would I even call it a pseudo KKG. Why you ask? Because simply combining the elements is not a KKG, rather its the altering of the 2 elements to become a new element. Wood is a perfect example. If Kakuzu fired water and earth at you at the same time would you call it wood? No wood has unique properties and is a completely new element. Kakuzu's use of Fire and Wind only seems like a pseudo KKG because Fire and Wind simply do not form a clear new element like Water and Earth does.

So no, Kakuzu is simply fanning his flames with wind, not creating Scorch.
oh yes it is
so is wood release
 

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As many others have said, Kakuzu can simply use the elements together to increase the power of both. He isnt exactly mixing it. What Naruto and Saske did was mix their chakra together which is why they had to make their chakra levels even, the mixure of sasuke blaze release, with Naruto's wind release created the chakra for something like a scorch release. Whereas Kakuzu didnt really mix the chakras rather he mixed the attacks...kind of like when Darui mixes his lightning with his water, it doesnt create storm release, it just made his water/lightning technique deadlier.

It would be like if Kakashi used an earth jutsu and a water jutsu together, dosent mean it would take on a mokuton like effect...
 

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Bullshit thread.
Firstly, EGF isn't KKG. It's a hidden technique treasured by Takigakure and he simply stole it from them.
Secondly, Fire+Wind =/= KKG, no matter how proficient one is with them. Fire+Wind+blood heritage = Scorch Release.
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KKG is combing 2 nature chakra and creating a new one. What Kakuzu did was just a combo, basicly the fire got much bigger because of the wind
 
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