Who Can Tank Ay's Lightning Punch?
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TheEvilOne
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mistranslation. Naruto only stated that Ei's punches were very powerful, he didn't say anything about getting taken out by a hit. Naruto took a far stronger hit from 1 tailed Han and was barely even hurt, he'd take even less damage from Ei's hits especially V1 Ei.
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. Oonoki couldn't have been making Ei lighter since he had already lightened Ei.
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increases the
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plus oonoki even calls his two techniques different names. When he makes things lighter, it's
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When he makes things heavier, it's earth release: super aggrivated rock tech.
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TheEvilOne
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if your name isn't invisible man, then that post wasn't directed at you. But if you want to challenge that post then I can surely give you a manga scan that shows Naruto saying nothing about getting K.O.'d by a direct hit from Ei.
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well I gave you scans for the second statement, do you still disagree with that statement in light of those scans?
As for the first statement: Naruto never says anything about "if i take a clean hit, i'm screwed" nor does he say anything about Ei's punches 'weighting a million tons'. he simply says
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This scan is further backed up by the fact that killer bee in base and with a partially transformed arm is capable of
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and
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V1 and V2 Ei's hits. While on the otherhand, 1 tailed han's hits are so powerful that partially transformed bee is completely outclassed in the strength department as he
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Bee didn't even take the hit himself.
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Naruto never said anything about getting beaten by a single punch from Ei, just like he never said anything about Ei's punch weighing a million pounds.
If Naruto actually would get screwed by a direct hit from V1 Ei, why does he take almost no damage from a much more powerful hit to the face?
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The answer is that your translation isn't the accurate translation and that naruto can take direct hits from Ei.
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He says it in anime too, must be translation error too right? Also, please prove that Han can generate more physical power than Ay can. Before you do, remember this is the man that snaps rib-cage Susanoo with his bare hands, sever through a tailed beast (Gyuki) and knocks them flat on their asses all from the sheer force, the man who defeated V2 Juugo with CM enhanced durability with one blow, the man who can hold full weight of legged Susanoo above his head with 1 arm, the man who ruptured Bee's organs with a light hit (he was not trying to kill him), and finally the man who would have ripped Suigetsus arms off (had they not been water) just from him defending from his punch with his sword.
When you prove Han generates greater physical might than Ay without a doubt, I will agree with your point.
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nope, he actually never says that in the anime either. All Naruto says is "i better avoid a direct hit", which does not = "if I take a direct hit i'm screwed". Not only that, in the anime he never says "it felt like it weighed a million pounds" which further disproves your translation.
1 tailed Han easily and completely outclasses V1 Ei and even V2 Ei in strength and striking power. This is proven by partially transformed Bee getting sent flying through the earth after merely trying to stop Naruto's momentum from Han's hit, while the same bee has the physical strength to overpower V2 Ei, and stop V1 Ei's punches without even budging.
All of Ei's strength feats are irrelevant since you've given no comparison of those strength feats to what 1 tailed Han is capable of doing. Therefore since 1 Tailed Han hits much harder than Ei, Han would be capable of easily repeating those strength or striking feats.
Finally, why do I have the burden of proof to show that Han's physical strength is > Ei's "without a doubt"? If you are the one who's evaluating my proof, then that's a completely unfair burden of proof since no matter what argument I bring up, you could simply say "I still have doubts" or "it's not good enough" and therefore dismiss them no matter how compelling they are.
If you are serious about being honest and objective in answering the question of who hits harder, you not only have a burden of proof to show that Ei's hits are > Han's hits, but you have to show that V1 Ei's hits are at least A TIER above Han's hits since Naruto took Han's hit to the face without any damage, and therefore in order for V1 Ei to take naruto out with a single hit, he's going to have to be at least a tier above Han in striking strength.
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Um, I literally showed you why Han is easily capable of performing Ei's feats, so yes 1 tailed Han is capable of all of Ei's strength/striking feats that you've listed and more. We have Bee blocking V1 Ei's punch without budging and overpowering V2 Ei, while Bee gets sent flying through the earth when he just tries to stop the momentum from one of 1 tailed Han's punches.
That conclusively proves that Han hits far harder than Ei, and therefore since Han hits far harder than Ei, he's far stronger and is capable of all of Ei's strength/ impact feats.
Plus, Han doesn't even need to repeat Ei's feats since the question is: would KCM Naruto get screwed by a clean hit from V1 Ei. If Han hits harder than Ei, lands a clean hit on Naruto's face, and Naruto is hardly damaged then that disproves your translation.
Do you agree or disagree with that? If you agree, then good. If you disagree, show me what part of my argument you disagree with, and REMEMBER that the argument is about the validity of your translation where Naruto claims a clean hit from V1 Ei will beat him.
Lol what? Ay said he needed to up his speed to get enough (power) to crush Madara's guard
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. If you didn't know, that same Ay(with Onoki) punched a hole in Madara's susanoo
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. Nothing like "it being extremely weak". The mere fact that he said he needed more speed to up his power confirms he was stronger when he was made faster.Kabuto said that but in the end was surprised in that same scan showing he didn't expect that at all. Meaning it was stronger and not weaker.
Ay's initial chop without Onoki made a PIIN when he hit Madara's ribcage
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Ay's chop with Onoki did far more damage than that
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It's factual that he was stronger with Onoki
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no, Kabuto's surprise was due to Ei blitzing him.
Of course he's stronger with oonoki when oonki uses weighted rocks on Ei to massively increase his power right before Ei makes contact. He didn't do that against muu since we don't see oonoki making Ei heavier at the moment of contact, nor lighter after the moment of contact and Ei instantly gets behind Madara before Muu even travels a couple of feet meaning Ei was lightened when he hit muu.
Look, Naruto's rasengan planet did incomparably greater amount of damage to 100% muu, and both 50% muus than Ei's chop did. If Ei's strength was just as great when he hit muu as when he hit madara's susanoo, then that means muu's durability >>>>>> Madara's susanoo and that KCM Naruto would fodderize madara's susanoo with a rasengan planet.
Do you believe that's true? If not, then you logically can't maintain your position about Ei's hitting strength against muu = Ei's hitting strength against madara's susanoo.
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