I don't understand Tobirama

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Then he thought "this is a bad idea" and forbade it.
Tobirama is sick and racist.

To be racist, you have to hate a different race. It doesn't really apply if there's no hate involved and if the race is the same as the "racist".
 

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Tobirama invented Edo Tensei to be used for war,it'd be a great way to demoralize the enemy by having their fallen comrades fight against them.

Yout description makes it even crazier lol
 

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Then he thought "this is a bad idea" and forbade it.


To be racist, you have to hate a different race. It doesn't really apply if there's no hate involved and if the race is the same as the "racist".
Technically a race can be just a group of people who have certain genetic qualities that make them different from others.The Uchiha fit that description because of he Sharingan and their heritage.
 

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The fact that he had to defile the dead and then use sacrifices makes no sense really. Only an evil immoral person could do such a thing. You wouldn't expect a Hokage, who follows the will of fire and is from the clan of 'love' to use, let alone invent such a thing.

Makes me wonder who he'd sacrifice. Especially when first inventing the the jutsu, he must've gone through a lot of sacrifices.
 

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The fact that he had to defile the dead and then use sacrifices makes no sense really. Only an evil immoral person could do such a thing. You wouldn't expect a Hokage, who follows the will of fire and is from the clan of 'love' to use, let alone invent such a thing.

Makes me wonder who he'd sacrifice. Especially when first inventing the the jutsu, he must've gone through a lot of sacrifices.

There were plenty of enemy soilders to use,which would keep Konoha's' forces high.
 

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He was the "father" of Danzo. U_U

I have to disagree with you on a few points. Tobirama didn't hate the Uchiha no matter how many of you argue, he tried his best to help them, but it inevitably backfired. Plus Tobirama didn't go around stealing the Uchiha's eyes like Danzo did nor did he gain their trust only to backstab them later like Danzo did. I think the problem with Danzo was that he misinterpreted Tobirama's devotion for his village for protecting it at all costs no matter the trouble it causes
 

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Yout description makes it even crazier lol

C'mon no Kage is perfect, Mu, the second tsuchikage, was known for using underhanded tactics to ensure his country's power. Or the 4th Kazekage trying to assassinate Hiruzen to gain more power. Various kages use under handed tactics for the sake of their country, it's not just Tobirama
 

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the troublesome thing with Tobirama is that he believes that there's absolutely nothing wrong with him using it. If anybody else uses it, he decides all of a sudden to have a problem with that jutsu.
He could use it to question dead enemies?

This plus he could use it in war without sacrificing men.
it doesn't really change the nature of that jutsu. Otherwise, Hashirama wouldn't have had to get on his case about using it and numerous ppl other ppl wouldn't have been seen voicing their own disgust with that jutsu. There is something to be said about wanting power so bad, one has to resort to messing with ppl's remains and go grave robbing.
 
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The fact that he had to defile the dead and then use sacrifices makes no sense really. Only an evil immoral person could do such a thing. You wouldn't expect a Hokage, who follows the will of fire and is from the clan of 'love' to use, let alone invent such a thing.

Makes me wonder who he'd sacrifice. Especially when first inventing the the jutsu, he must've gone through a lot of sacrifices.

Enemies that he was going to kill anyway, of course.
 

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This man who seems to be about respect and protecting the new generation, yet he invented the edo tensei which is a flat out disrespect to the dead and even requires a live sacrifice.

Then there's the fact that Madara's dead body was reserved (as far as he knew)...

I skimmed some of the post and see a lot of Tobirama hate. He created Edo Tensei in a time of constant war and no he wouldn't sacrifice his own comrades but he would to Uchihas and other enemies of that time. Use the Edo's to prevent his comrades death even if it's just by a small chance. He lost many of his family and clansmen to the Uchihas and vice versa so no one can say Tobirama is heartless for that when we see Madara and Izuna prolonging the war but declining Hashirama's peace treaty and only wanted to kill them all.

For those comparing him to Danzo, Danzo would not sacrifice his life for his comrades as Tobirama did and he even stated that he didn't hate the Uchiha but the fact that many of them would lose control dangers the village as a whole so separated them for everyone and gave them a role that he thought they would be good at. This was when Sasuke asked Tobirama if he hated the Uchihas and Tobirama had no reason to lie, in fact he will tell it like it is as he has done when he said the Uchihas is cursed by hatred. All I know is if a clan threaten the peace of everyone else then they either have to learn to control themselves as they are moved away from everyone or it they get too bad then leave the village or be forced too. The life of 80 something does not come before the life of 300+ people and Tobirama knew that.
 

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ET requires a living sacrifice. What an ethical and good-natured fella.
 

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ET requires a living sacrifice. What an ethical and good-natured fella.

And you think there's nice people besides Hashirama in a time of constant war? There were Senju and Uchihas killing kids as Hashirama issue about his brother dying was that he was just a kid so they made kids fight if they were old enough to hold a shuriken. Tobirama is fighting people who want to kill him and his comrades, why would he care if he used them in an experiment to develop a jutsu that would shorten his comrade casualties? He would use his enemies to develop and use Edo since he was in war with them and he wouldn't hurt his own comrades plus Hashirama would have killed him if he done that as he told Madara he would kill anyone who threatens the village right before killing him.
 

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And you think there's nice people besides Hashirama in a time of constant war? There were Senju and Uchihas killing kids as Hashirama issue about his brother dying was that he was just a kid so they made kids fight if they were old enough to hold a shuriken. Tobirama is fighting people who want to kill him and his comrades, why would he care if he used them in an experiment to develop a jutsu that would shorten his comrade casualties? He would use his enemies to develop and use Edo since he was in war with them and he wouldn't hurt his own comrades plus Hashirama would have killed him if he done that as he told Madara he would kill anyone who threatens the village right before killing him.

I don't remember the Uchiha Clan coming up with something so despicable.
 
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