[Spoilers] Prime hiruzen

[24farone]

Okay so this guy is such a mystery . We all. Know the 3rd Hokage hiruzen sarutobi of the sarutobi clan.
Now he is hailed as a god shinobi an in part 1 was said to have surpassed both the 1st and 2nd now we all find it hard to believe BUT hiruzen sarutobi seemed to do something that actually is unnatural.
The 5 elements
Now we know that some people actually can master ALL FIVE natures but it is extremely difficult as most jonin only 2 maybe 3 even itachi was only shown to have 2 water and fire kakashi the copy ninja was shown to master 3 earth water and lightning with fire in the anime

Now it seems that there are a number of shinobi that have mastered the 5 natures
Kakuzu nagato hagoromo BUT nagato and hagoromo had the advantage if mastering the natures through the rinnegan
And we know kakazu stole his enemy's hearts others stole chakra
Itachi himself has all 5 through his yata mirror and the people who wield bashosen
BUT
The third seemed to master all 5 naturally
Now does anyone else atleast starting to believe his hype at all?
Any opinions about prime hiruzen?

 

[HashiraMadara]

by his time the first and second hokage's strengths were believed to be fairy tale!!!!

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Great piont.I see it alot more now.

 

[Trúth]

Doesn't exist .

 

[Rohan]

Is Fanfiction.

 

[Senpou]

Prime hiruzen is kishi's masterpiece. Haters be nuetralized GG.

 

[Rohan]

Hiruzen's Nuetralizer is so strong that he neutralises the Neutralizer's hype.

:tonguetied:

 

[Sakuto]

Naruto has more than him...

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[Flakez]

Ugh..

His hype was only during part 1. Back then Kishi didn't plan the story that further ahead.

Hashirama is the strongest, Hiruzen's hype remains in part 1.

 

[Zakler2k9]

prime hiruzen ? nice fanfic btw Lol , not decent but good Lol

 

[24farone]

Guys it's the fact how hard it is to master all 5 I'm not saying he's stronger then hashirama at all but we ARE underestimating him the sarutobi has an ability where they master higher rank Jutsu a lot easier you guys aren't even taking this stuff into consideration
NOT ONE shinobi has mastered all 5 element chakras NATURALLY NOT ONE
Even hashirama himself mastered 2 and a Kekkei genkai
Naruto gained his THROUGH the sages power

He was also stated to be the strongest kage ATM that includes A
I'm not sayin he is the strongest kage cause I would never put him above even minato let alone hashirama but my is don't you think we understimate him people put him on par with tsunade when I actually put him above or equal par with tobirama who is absolutely no slouch

 

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Any opinions about prime hiruzen?

Plot is restricting Hiruzen sama ​

 

[AvengedcrowzX]

I would put him above tsunade but not anyone else Tobirama still has FTG so I don't put him on par or above him.

 

[patricialicious]

prime hiruzen sounds like a dish you'd order at a stakehouse

 

[24farone]

I would put him above tsunade but not anyone else Tobirama still has FTG so I don't put him on par or above him.

Mum speculating what he was capable of he was said to have mastered majority of the Jutsu inside of the hidden leaf he master the rds he probably doesn't have the chakra for that stuff anymore

 

[MickNerks]

by his time the first and second hokage's strengths were believed to be fairy tale!!!!

During Hiruzen's time both Hashirama and Tobirama were in there primes. The same people who saw hiruzen during his first hokage reign were also alive to see hashirama and tobirama during theres.

I would put him above tsunade but not anyone else Tobirama still has FTG so I don't put him on par or above him.

Hiruzen slaughters tobirama

 

[Senju Bean]

Prime Hiruzen knows all Konoha techs.

Since Sasuke is of Konoha, Prime Hiruzen knows the Rinnegan swap.

Since Naruto is of Konoha, Prime Hiruzen knows Bijuu FRS.

He also can use Kamui to the level of current Kakashi

 

[24farone]

prime hiruzen ? nice fanfic btw Lol , not decent but good Lol

Not decent but good lol I would assume good is better then decent?

 

[24farone]

Prime Hiruzen knows all Konoha techs.

Since Sasuke is of Konoha, Prime Hiruzen knows the Rinnegan swap.

Since Naruto is of Konoha, Prime Hiruzen knows Bijuu FRS.

He also can use Kamui to the level of current Kakashi

Would you shut up you know exactly what I mean he knows all of hidden Jutsu written in the scrolls stfu

The HIDDEN LEAFS Jutsu isn't referring the Jutsu people later gained dumbass it's referring the Jutsu that's in the hidden leafs scrolls kind of like the shadow clone fire techniques perhaps FTG and some of those techniques cause they are techniques created by tobirama

It's similar to the hidden stones Jutsu
They have more advanced earth styles that can be learned by anyone but it's considered THE HIDDEN STONES Jutsu
I'm not referring to Kekkei genkais like the sharingan and **** jinchuriki power now stfu stop being a smart ass

 

[Floydical]

Mastering all 5 elements is all but unheard of because he was the only shinobi to do it naturally that we've ever seen. However, simply having all 5 elements is nothing compared to having KKG. Having all elements is like using addition but having KKG is like using multiplication, where multiplication stacks up much faster. So having all 5 is nice, but simply having wood jutsu or a sharingan is better than all 5 elements imo.

Basically I'm saying that having all 5 helps to legitimize some of his hype, but he still falls short of the first hokage and many others.