Sasuke And Naruto's Speed

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[QUOTE=genii96;16885590]madara wasnt moving after he implanted kakashi's eye
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and here he is still right beside kakashi
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he may have stopped there but like i said before its barely considerable when you look at the fact when he turned sasuke was already close by.

besides like i pointed out, sasuke didnt immediately give pursuit

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by the time they had pointed out the real madara escaping, he had already gone quite a far distance from them. then sasuke tried using his jutsu, realized it didnt work, then naruto yells at him to quickly run after madara. sasuke still hadent moved with madara still moving away, its like this
-madara flies away
-they pinpoint him while hes moving
-sasuke tries using his jutsu to no avail, while madara is still getting away
-naruto tells him to quickly go after madara, he then says hurry so we can say it was at this point sasuke began chasing but by then madara had already reached were kakashi was and grabbed his eye

so as you can see even if madara did stop after he implanted the eye it wont really make a difference because sasuke didnt pursue him immediately, he wasnt already running after madara who had already gone. so the time that passed when madara stopped and the time that passed before sasuke began pursuing should even each other out. in fact i can argue that madara stopped only for a few secs considering when he turned to find sasuke near him and told him he was fast.
he didnt move tt all,and he was backing sasuke on top of that.
see above and backing him is irrelevant as hes a sensor, he was backing tobirama also and that didnt change anything.

Kamui is much faster than turning around,and making a sentence,which he did upon sasuke's shushin. Thu had he wanted,he could have kamuid beforehand.
you act like he took ages to turn, his reflexes are being boosted by the juubi so turning should only take a sec and making a sentence is irrelevant as its much easier to say stuffs than having to physically move your body to react to an attack. him saying something means he reacted mentally but not physically, i see a fast train moving with high speed and i speak some words in dispair, does that mean i have the necessary reflexes to move out of the way before it hits me? no, reacting physically takes up much stress. besides the only thing he said was sasuke is quite fast, barely a long sentence. this is no proof that he could have kamuid before hand.
Like i said,he wasnt even that far,at best 100m distance,or just to give the benefit of doubt 150m away.
not just did it cover it but reaching madara in time before he could escape, thats the feat.

Cobvering the distance in a very short span of time is the basics of a shushin,basically all shushins used move from one place to the next almost instantly,thats the whole point of a shushin in the first place. The distance covered by sasuke wasnt all that impressive,killer bee moved accrross mountains with one shushin,ay left afterimage of himself with a v2 shushin.
again, not just covering the distance but getting to madara and hitting him before he could escape.

What sasuke did wasnt enough to be called god tier,not at all,especially since he didnt even hit an opponent facing him,had he done that to a madara face to face,then it would have been different.
its god tier because the opponent he hit has shown to react to attacks from ftg shinobis. both minato and tobirama used ftg to get to madara but couldnt connect wereas sasuke just his speed and was sucessful. like i said before madara is a sensor, so him not facing the opponent directly wouldnt hinder him from sucessfully countering said opponent if the opponent is not fast enough. naruto was able to move out of the way from kaguyas hand grab from the back, madara was able to react to tobiramas attack from the back. both situations happened because naruto and madara sensed the dangers and reacted, same here, madara very much was aware of sasukes presence so him not facing him directly wouldnt change anything.

Had minato used an ftg attack like he did on madara when madara was backing him,he most likely would have connected
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you have zero proof from this statment. from the back,madara reacted to hirianshigiri from close range from tobirama. you can say minato exceeds tobirama in striking speed but its certainly not by much and beisdes juubi madara>>>>that madara so he most certainly would still react to minato. and madara was not backing sasuke, he turned and saw him, he saw sasuke coming at him and considering his reflexes he should be able to stop sasuke if he could. ,

Madara wanted his other eye,he knew he was immortal,he didnt care if sasuke hit him or not,he didnt show any sign of being surprised,nor was he nervous at all.
this is just merely assumptions and speculations with no evidence nothing more. manga never said or hinted anything like it. madara is not stupid enough to risk half of his body if he could prevent it, it was a one on one confrontation, he could have stopped sasukes assault with his staff like he did to minato or better still kamui away without having to get sliced. am in a hurry to get something, and i have the ability(kamui) to leave a fight in one piece with no injuries but no ill let myself get sliced in half and then leave the scene just because i can regenerate? it doesnt make much sense, lets be honest if he could stop sasukes assault he would have but he didnt because frankly he couldnt react in time to defend himself hence he took advantage of his regeneration to quickly kamui away after the hit, nothing more nothing less.

His shushin would be much faster if he makes use of the sage's power,but his normal foot speed or striking hasnt increased. Infact his only notable pure speed feat againt juubi tier opponents is his shushin,i dont recall his normal foot speed or striking being praised.
bold1 no proof of that. bold 2 deidara noted sasukes movements were definitely too fast hence he switched up his attack and madara saying sasuke is quite fast.
 

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Sasuke is much faster than Naruto. Looking at the latest naruto bingo book, stats are highly is Sasuke's favour.
Speed is just his thing.

Well to be fair that was Rasenshuriken Naruto And Hebi Sasuke who fought Deidara. That Sasuke destroys RS Naruto
 

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Well I know Sasuke didn't dodge raikages punch a while ago, naruto did
Minato was the fastest man alive, with some of the best reflexes, and only naruto surpassed that in both regards
The sharingan won't help, because sage & rikudou mode would be faster
Sasuke haven't really been showing speed, but Minato showed up to the war 1st, again proving he's the fastest, and again only naruto can match that speed
There's more but proof is in the pudding
 

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Well I know Sasuke didn't dodge raikages punch a while ago, naruto did
Minato was the fastest man alive, with some of the best reflexes, and only naruto surpassed that in both regards
The sharingan won't help, because sage & rikudou mode would be faster
Sasuke haven't really been showing speed, but Minato showed up to the war 1st, again proving he's the fastest, and again only naruto can match that speed
There's more but proof is in the pudding

If I recall, Sasuke did dodge the 4 raikage's hit, while moving toward him, a better feat that anticipating a hit out of battle and dodging it.
Sasuke is much faster than Ay and Minato now.

Anyone who says otherwise is a namikaze wanker
 
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since d beginning of the series sauce has shown more speed than nardo
in part2 when dey came 2 capture sauce nobody could react to him
after the danzo fight sauce was blind and could still keep up with nardo EMS sauce speed is already fasta dan V2 raikage seeing dat he is able to follow juubito.d times nardo hit kaguya was when she was caught of guard and afta sauce play decoy.
Sauce(current) is mach 157-160 while nardo(current without cloak is mach 154-159
 

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Sasukes teleporting is instant like other s/t but his striking speed following the teleport isn't. It's the stroke that happens after the teleport that let's sasuke down and ultimately leads to people like kaguya and zetsu/madara countering it. Narutos speed is increasingly fast physical movement with equally impressive striking speed. Whilst narutos movement isn't instant it's pretty near to it and the the strike itself happens to fast for the opponent to react as shown by kaguya.

If we are talking overall combinations of speed that amount to effectiveness in landing a hit naruto is better.

Ya what this guy said its just plain excuses on sasukes side if u still trying to argue against this after what mangas shown of narutos speed
 
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