[Spoilers] How Limbo actually works and why it is Kishi's most creative jutsu (must read)

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I strongly disagree with your idea of dimension, and how Hax Limbo is. Bottom line is that Limbo is a jutsus that create clones that are invisible to normal eyes.

Being invisible does not mean being in another dimension in this case because Naruto can hit them as well as Sakura who are simply in the normal dimension. So yeah, Limbo mean invisible Shadow clones.
 

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Ah thanks for clearing that up. If Kishi didn't have an explanation for the jutsu, he could use your's.
I couldn't ask for high praise thank you

Oh dear, what a theory. And i couldn't believe i did read the whole thing.

I like it, i mean, it's the most plausible one for now, since Kishi's not here to explain in detail :sweat:
If there's some tags for this, i'll say 'karma', 'parallel dimension', 'time & space manipulation', 'reincarnation'. Now that when i rethought about it, Kishi loved to play with time when it came to his story plot and jutsu, especially sharingan/rinnegan. Was it safe to say that Obito's ms had something to do with time as well? If it was, then the full Susanoo by Kakashi had a few clearings on how it was done.
Interesting idea, I'm not sure about obito's ms but if you write a theory Ill gladly read it no longer how long and black and white the text is

No, it's invisible shadow clones that are immune to things that aren't sage powers, because bullshit reasons. Otherwise madara would have been stomped before he would be juubi jin.
I strongly disagree with your idea of dimension, and how Hax Limbo is. Bottom line is that Limbo is a jutsus that create clones that are invisible to normal eyes.

Being invisible does not mean being in another dimension in this case because Naruto can hit them as well as Sakura who are simply in the normal dimension. So yeah, Limbo mean invisible Shadow clones.
Invisible shadow clones are taking a small part of the jutsu and trying to make it work, why do the clones return to the body then after a certain time? why are only sage of six paths chakra allowed to hit them? why when sakura punched the clone it didn't move in the slights and all her momentum would be stopped? sakura has a strong punch surly if it was a invisible clone it would've been sent flying back. invisible clones do not account for all this jutsu does
 

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Madara stated that he is immortal, and I believe this is why. His jutsu was to use clones of himself -- through space and time. Even through dimensions. Madara is a malignant narcissist, who loved only himself and his family. He created a clone of himself. In the next chapter, the ET of Madara fails. Rikudo won't know why, but Madara's soul is alive. Not in Kaguya, but in another time. Madara went not into the future, but his own past.

Madara became someone else, and transmigrated himself. Madara Uchiha is, truly... immortal. And he's coming back. His real goal wasn't to get the Juubi. Or Kaguya.

He wants to eat the fruit, and to become God. Guess who's left to stop him right now in the real world? Nobody. And he wanted Hashirama alive in order to see him do it. Guess who else had Hashirama's cells and was obsessed with the research. Guess who else wanted the Uchiha body. Who else knew all those jutsu and where to go at the right times? It isn't hard. Kishimoto planned this all out.

Madara Uchiha is like a time-travelling Aizen. It's actually some pretty genius shit. Madara wanted to bring his old rival back, relive his own past. He said it to Naruto. He must thank Naruto for moving up the schedule. Not the order he wanted it to be in, this time? He said that. Not in the order he'd have preferred. Madara has been carefully recreating events, sort of like that guy. He did nothing during most of Obito's fight with Naruto, because he knew how it'd end.

The scary thing is he let BZ get him and he's faked his own death for that very reason. He wants to kill the S06P. Kill God, and become God. And he plans to sacrifice all of mankind, just to get one up on Hashirama and eat the fruit. The failed world indeed...
 
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Very nice theory, but if it all of this were indeed true, the current Madara would have also been sealed after Naruto sealed one or two of his limbo clones. So other than that flaw in your theory, I like the rest of it.

And he plans to sacrifice all of mankind, just to get one up on Hashirama and eat the fruit. The failed world indeed...
He had one up on Hashi ever since he faked his death against him.
 

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Very nice theory, but if it all of this were indeed true, the current Madara would have also been sealed after Naruto sealed one or two of his limbo clones. So other than that flaw in your theory, I like the rest of it.



He had one up on Hashi ever since he faked his death against him.
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After all what is the point if he gets damaged sometime after?
The only disadvantage is that after period of time the clones are unusable
 

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Interesting. But under this perspective, if you only are able to summon your pastself... this means that the Hagoromo who met Naruto and Sasuke did not came from the past, but actually came from the future.
 

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Invisible shadow clones are taking a small part of the jutsu and trying to make it work, 1. why do the clones return to the body then after a certain time? 2. why are only sage of six paths chakra allowed to hit them? 3. why when sakura punched the clone it didn't move in the slights and all her momentum would be stopped? 4. sakura has a strong punch surly if it was a invisible clone it would've been sent flying back. invisible clones do not account for all this jutsu does
1. Maybe, saying shadow clones is exaggerated, but still, they are some kind of shadows. Basically, you could say madara make copies of himself, or split himself many times just like Juubi can, and then they are invisible just like the guy Obito and kakashi fought before Obito was crushed by the boulder. Remember that only Obito could see the guy when he unlocked his Sharingan. This is no different from Sasuke seeing them with his Rinnegan.

2. The copies of Madara are the copies of someone who can be damage only by sage chakra. So it is logical that they can only be damage by sage chakra.

3. and 4. Are you comparing Saskura's power with that of the Jincuriki of Juubi? Really?
 

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Very nice theory, but if it all of this were indeed true, the current Madara would have also been sealed after Naruto sealed one or two of his limbo clones. So other than that flaw in your theory, I like the rest of it.
Thanks for bringing this up that's a good point, the Madara limbo being sealed was an unique situation. From what I took from it that the Madara clone only brings whatever damage it received when it returns back to the original Madara right? The reason Madara never got sealed is due to Naruto restricting the limbo Madara's movements with the truth seeking balls in lance form. Since the limbo Madara couldn't move, it never was able to bring back whatever damage it received to the original Madara.

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After all what is the point if he gets damaged sometime after?
The only disadvantage is that after period of time the clones are unusable
Well as we saw its very hard to damage the limbo clones as you need so6p chakra but your right it is definitely a weakness. That's also true and someone who was fighting someone using limbo could try to calculate when the clone would become unusable and try to attack at that point.

Interesting. But under this perspective, if you only are able to summon your pastself... this means that the Hagoromo who met Naruto and Sasuke did not came from the past, but actually came from the future.
Im not sure if Hagoromo used limbo to talk to Naruto and Sasuke, I assumed it was more of an Ashura/Indra chakra remaining thing

1. Maybe, saying shadow clones is exaggerated, but still, they are some kind of shadows. Basically, you could say madara make copies of himself, or split himself many times just like Juubi can, and then they are invisible just like the guy Obito and kakashi fought before Obito was crushed by the boulder. Remember that only Obito could see the guy when he unlocked his Sharingan. This is no different from Sasuke seeing them with his Rinnegan.

2. The copies of Madara are the copies of someone who can be damage only by sage chakra. So it is logical that they can only be damage by sage chakra.

3. and 4. Are you comparing Saskura's power with that of the Jincuriki of Juubi? Really?
1. the reason I believe they cant just be invisible shadow clones because that doesn't explain at all why they can only be hit by so6p chakra or return to madara after a set amount of time
2. actually jinchurkis of the jubbi can be damaged by things other then sage chakra. it is the truth seeking balls that can only be touched by sage chakra. remember gai and madaras fight? I don't think gai used sage chakra but he got heavy damage on madara
3 and 4. That doesn't really address what I said at all. I know Sakura isn't anywhere close to being as powerful as madara, but the important thing is this scan

in it, we see sakura hit the limbo clone in front of Madara. If it was just an invisible shadow clone, sakura punch should be enough to at least push the limbo clone back a little bit as taijutsu does work against jinchrki of the jubbi as we saw with gai. Instead however, all of sakuras momentum is stopped and this is due to the fact that she is hitting something that technically doesn't exsist in her time dimension . she can not see sense or even move the limbo clone because it exsists in a different time that sakura is not currently apart of.
 

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This has to be the best theory on Limbo i've ever read. Really made me reconsider the technique. I didn't quite liked Limbo, it didn't have that "wow" factor for me, but after reading this, i began thinking of countless possibilities the jutsu may have.
 
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