New Sasuke And Naruto Dynamics

[Taborlin]

Not to mention enton shield and partial Susanoo

Can he seal?

 

[Genjin]

Sasuke can bind, kill, capture, incapacitate, shield, attack, and teleport. Sasuke is more versatile

Naruto can bind, kill, capture, incapacitate, shield, attack, footspeed blitz, seal, sense, transform, heal, fly and etc.

Ain't that sh!t obvious? Lmao!

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Naruto can bind, kill, capture, incapacitate, shield, attack, footspeed blitz, seal, sense, transform, heal, fly and etc.

Ain't that sh!t obvious? Lmao!

And Sasuke does the same swap healing with genjutsu, and snake jutsu

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Can he seal?

Actually yes, using the evil sealing method.

 

[Blackwatch]

Speed: Naruto > Sasuke. One can tag Kaguya while the other got teleported away. No question about this.

Ninjutsu: Naruto >> Sasuke in versatility and destruction. Naruto has every chakra nature and a lot of bloodlines + Truth Seeking Orbs in addition to his moveset while Sasuke only received a bigger Susano'o and his space-time technique. Naruto also destroyed all the Chibaku Tensei with TBBFRS with 1 raise of his arm while it took Sasuke several slashes to break apart a single meteor of it. No question who's more destructive. The curvature of the Earth was also seen in his last attack on Kaguya.

Genjutsu: Sasuke > Naruto. While Sasuke has relatively mediocre genjutsu skills, Naruto has none. However, Naruto can break it no sweat so it ends up being moot.

Taijutsu: Naruto >>> Sasuke. Naruto can pressure a goddess while the same goddess has manhandled Sasuke and BFR'd him twice. As mentioned earlier in the thread by several, his Sensing, Truth Seeking Orbs + Sage power ups make it overkill.

Stamina: Naruto > Sasuke. Naruto has always had higher stamina and regeneration. Nothing has changed since it's amped up more.

Power: Naruto >> Sasuke. Self-explanatory.

Skill: Naruto >= Sasuke. Both are skilled, but Naruto has had much better showings as of late of his skill. I'll give Sasuke the benefit of the doubt though and say he's not too far behind.

Intelligence/Analytical ability: Naruto = Sasuke. This one is a matter of taste and how Kishi decides to show it. Sasuke was like an impudent child against Madara resulting in him getting insulted after Madara laughed at Amaterasu then killed with his own weapon at a later time. But he showed pretty good analytics vs Deidara and Danzo, so he has the capacity to pick apart weaknesses in an enemy with the proper window. Naruto is a much more out-of-the-box, unpredictable, unorthodox style which is quite dangerous. He has also shown great tact such as seeing Sandaime Raikage's scar and acting on it, using clone misdirection and feints to baffle an enemy, then overwhelm with great force or land a critical blow a la Kakuzu, Tobi, or Pain. He also has a tendency to rush in headlong before observing, but his adaptability and innovation compensates for this. It's truly a matter of taste.




And THAT'S the real score, no fanboying or any like that. Using solely manga facts and nothing more.

 

[Taborlin]

Actually yes, using the evil sealing method.

Never heard of that one

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Never heard of that one

It's how he revived Oro

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Speed: Naruto > Sasuke. One can tag Kaguya while the other got teleported away. No question about this.

Ninjutsu: Naruto >> Sasuke in versatility and destruction. Naruto has every chakra nature and a lot of bloodlines + Truth Seeking Orbs in addition to his moveset while Sasuke only received a bigger Susano'o and his space-time technique. Naruto also destroyed all the Chibaku Tensei with TBBFRS with 1 raise of his arm while it took Sasuke several slashes to break apart a single meteor of it. No question who's more destructive. The curvature of the Earth was also seen in his last attack on Kaguya.

Genjutsu: Sasuke > Naruto. While Sasuke has relatively mediocre genjutsu skills, Naruto has none. However, Naruto can break it no sweat so it ends up being moot.

Taijutsu: Naruto >>> Sasuke. Naruto can pressure a goddess while the same goddess has manhandled Sasuke and BFR'd him twice. As mentioned earlier in the thread by several, his Sensing, Truth Seeking Orbs + Sage power ups make it overkill.

Stamina: Naruto > Sasuke. Naruto has always had higher stamina and regeneration. Nothing has changed since it's amped up more.

Power: Naruto >> Sasuke. Self-explanatory.

Skill: Naruto >= Sasuke. Both are skilled, but Naruto has had much better showings as of late of his skill. I'll give Sasuke the benefit of the doubt though and say he's not too far behind.

Intelligence/Analytical ability: Naruto = Sasuke. This one is a matter of taste and how Kishi decides to show it. Sasuke was like an impudent child against Madara resulting in him getting insulted after Madara laughed at Amaterasu then killed with his own weapon at a later time. But he showed pretty good analytics vs Deidara and Danzo, so he has the capacity to pick apart weaknesses in an enemy with the proper window. Naruto is a much more out-of-the-box, unpredictable, unorthodox style which is quite dangerous. He has also shown great tact such as seeing Sandaime Raikage's scar and acting on it, using clone misdirection and feints to baffle an enemy, then overwhelm with great force or land a critical blow a la Kakuzu, Tobi, or Pain. He also has a tendency to rush in headlong before observing, but his adaptability and innovation compensates for this. It's truly a matter of taste.




And THAT'S the real score, no fanboying or any like that. Using solely manga facts and nothing more.

Where is Naruto's Raiton? Doton? Having the bloodline isn't having the element. Also, only being able to manifest them in RS isn't versatile.again it's only my personal opinion

 

[Blackwatch]

Where is Naruto's Raiton? Doton? Having the bloodline isn't having the element. Also, only being able to manifest them in RS isn't versatile.again it's only my personal opinion

Last chapter reveled Gudo Dama carries all elements. Bloodline = KKG which is in reference to his Magnet Release, Boil Release, Lava Release, Scorch Release (assumption on this one from the 2 tails, but it's something besides Blue Katon), etc.

Versatility means having many different skills or qualities, which Naruto dominates. Naruto is a healer/medic, best sensor, kenjutsu user, ninjutsu and taijutsu expert, sealer, top physical stats, brilliant battle strategist, and has a top summon. The only thing he's missing is Genjutsu, which he could summon Ma and Pa Frog is he needs so in a way he still has it.

If you mean the way he uses his many releases, let's not pretend Sasuke is any more diversified. Rasengan = Chidori, Rasen-Shuriken and variants = Amaterasu/Enton, Susano'O = Bijuu Bomb, Kage Bunshin = Katon, Truth Seeking Orbs = S/T, Naruto's Sun Mark = Sasuke's Moon Mark, etc. Naruto and Sasuke have also used quite a few other jutsu but they will not be seen past this point. That's just how Kishi writes, he likes spammers. Naruto also has chakra arms, Sage sensing, Torii Seal, and other supplementary jutsu that fulfill while he still hasn't revealed his new Bijuu Mode and it's upgrades accordingly.

Their variety is about the same, but Naruto is far more rounded.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Last chapter reveled Gudo Dama carries all elements. Bloodline = KKG which is in reference to his Magnet Release, Boil Release, Lava Release, Scorch Release (assumption on this one from the 2 tails, but it's something besides Blue Katon), etc.

Versatility means having many different skills or qualities, which Naruto dominates. Naruto is a healer/medic, best sensor, kenjutsu user, ninjutsu and taijutsu expert, sealer, top physical stats, brilliant battle strategist, and has a top summon. The only thing he's missing is Genjutsu, which he could summon Ma and Pa Frog is he needs so in a way he still has it.

If you mean the way he uses his many releases, let's not pretend Sasuke is any more diversified. Rasengan = Chidori, Rasen-Shuriken and variants = Amaterasu/Enton, Susano'O = Bijuu Bomb, Kage Bunshin = Katon, Truth Seeking Orbs = S/T, Naruto's Sun Mark = Sasuke's Moon Mark, etc. Naruto and Sasuke have also used quite a few other jutsu but they will not be seen past this point. That's just how Kishi writes, he likes spammers. Naruto also has chakra arms, Sage sensing, Torii Seal, and other supplementary jutsu that fulfill while he still hasn't revealed his new Bijuu Mode and it's upgrades accordingly.

Their variety is about the same, but Naruto is far more rounded.

The only things I disagree with are Naruto being the best kenjutsu user when compared to Sasuke., and the fact that you called him a top battle strategist when his strategies are always basic and based off of brute force.

 

[Blackwatch]

The only things I disagree with are Naruto being the best kenjutsu user when compared to Sasuke., and the fact that you called him a top battle strategist when his strategies are always basic and based off of brute force.

He's not the best kenjutsu user, that title belongs to Killer Bee. I was just mentioning he is in fact skilled in kenjutsu which adds another dimension to his shinobi skills. Some strategies are more force based like with Kaguya where he needed her to retreat, but he did that with the intentions of making her escape to find Sasuke. Or against Pain where he lured a Path into a trap and used his Henge Jutsu to feign an absorption, then take down the target.

Sasuke is also guilty of this though. See his bullrush against Raikage Ay where he needed Suigetsu and Jugo to back him up or against Madara where he was stabbed with his own weapon. Both have their high and low points in this area, hence why I gave them equal rating.

 

[V h o]

Not even worth arguing, OP is obviously trolling. Using a games as reference, rofl.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Not even worth arguing, OP is obviously trolling. Using a games as reference, rofl.

It is a knowledgeable assessment. I used an example and it is justifiable to demonstrate. Games don't bring things out of thin air.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

He's not the best kenjutsu user, that title belongs to Killer Bee. I was just mentioning he is in fact skilled in kenjutsu which adds another dimension to his shinobi skills. Some strategies are more force based like with Kaguya where he needed her to retreat, but he did that with the intentions of making her escape to find Sasuke. Or against Pain where he lured a Path into a trap and used his Henge Jutsu to feign an absorption, then take down the target.

Sasuke is also guilty of this though. See his bullrush against Raikage Ay where he needed Suigetsu and Jugo to back him up or against Madara where he was stabbed with his own weapon. Both have their high and low points in this area, hence why I gave them equal rating.

I won't deny that Sasuke is was a borderline schizophrenic back then but you and I can agree that they are mostly equal, but I feel as though he is slightly more versatile than Naruto

 

[KisuneUchiha]

Isn't touching with Sage reflexes or is blocked with Gudo Dama Lol

Can't negate senjutsu enhanced shiz Lol
or did you forget Sasuke can use senjutsu now too?

Also, Chidori Stream is has a wide range and AoE it is a built in crowd control technique for CQC so try again

 

[V h o]

It is a knowledgeable assessment. I used an example and it is justifiable to demonstrate. Games don't bring things out of thin air.

Rofl, I just can't. And people complain about anime feats. XD

 

[KisuneUchiha]

He's not the best kenjutsu user, that title belongs to Killer Bee. I was just mentioning he is in fact skilled in kenjutsu which adds another dimension to his shinobi skills. Some strategies are more force based like with Kaguya where he needed her to retreat, but he did that with the intentions of making her escape to find Sasuke. Or against Pain where he lured a Path into a trap and used his Henge Jutsu to feign an absorption, then take down the target.

Sasuke is also guilty of this though. See his bullrush against Raikage Ay where he needed Suigetsu and Jugo to back him up or against Madara where he was stabbed with his own weapon. Both have their high and low points in this area, hence why I gave them equal rating.

Since when was Naruto skilled with a sword? When has he ever USED a sword at that o3o Sorry if I missed something, but scans please?

 

[Blackwatch]

Since when was Naruto skilled with a sword? When has he ever USED a sword at that o3o Sorry if I missed something, but scans please?

He was flawless with Sai's short sword in the dust up with Omoi and Karui, as well as blocking Omoi's with his bare hands. Though they aren't swords per se, he has also shown great skill with the Gudo Dama staffs using them to land blows on Madara, a host of other uses such as quick-time seals and negation, as well as his kunai play. Kenjutsu was the wrong word, I was referring to weapons play as a whole. His rods, Shuriken, kunai, combat scrolls, even Asuma's chakra knives. He is quite adept at armed martial combat despite not carrying a weapon until very recently.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Rofl, I just can't. And people complain about anime feats. XD

It's not a feat. I demonstrated the style they fight in.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

He was flawless with Sai's short sword in the dust up with Omoi and Karui, as well as blocking Omoi's with his bare hands. Though they aren't swords per se, he has also shown great skill with the Gudo Dama staffs using them to land blows on Madara, a host of other uses such as quick-time seals and negation, as well as his kunai play. Kenjutsu was the wrong word, I was referring to weapons play as a whole. His rods, Shuriken, kunai, combat scrolls, even Asuma's chakra knives. He is quite adept at armed martial combat despite not carrying a weapon until very recently.

Go back to Itachi VS Sasuke and look at the battle with weapons. That was some Tenten esque stuff