[THEORY] About Koto Amatsukami

[Bangimaki]

I think koto amatsukami is the genjutsu with the greatest weak point, its only strength is because the person under it is unaware, but it seems TNJ can break you out of the genjutsu. At the five kage summit arc, immediately mifune was told he was under KA, he didn't have to do any seal or chakra control for him to come out of it, he just did which shows KA's only strength is the fact you are totally unaware you are under genjutsu, but I think sensors can come out easily since they can feel their own chakra flow. Logical arguments allowed, no trolling

 

[Trúth]

Thread has been made before but better.

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[FranklinGTAV]

you never saw KA working , only with itachi , but even though , naruto talked with itachi and he didn't breaked it , so... that post isn't valid.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

Any decent sensor or someone who's able to see flow of chakra is able to notice it.

 

[knation]

Hm. A regular koto amatsukami is inferior to a regular tsukuyomi, but an infinite koto amatsukami would definitely be superior to an infinite tsukuyomi.

OT: that weak point would definitely make shisui's eye useless in a group battle

 

[Da Best Ever]

Well as far as sensors being able to detect genjutsu well that only works against non visual genjutsu users. Clearly mifune was placed under ka by Danzo and when Ao seen with his byakugan that Danzo chakra was focused in his eyes and then Ao having faced shi sui before figured out a jutsu that controls and manipulates the target. You also fail saying anyone can break it because Danzo was caught by Ao and released the ka on mifune who didn't even know he was under ka. Also, about sensors detecting genjutsu that only works against anyone but itachi because Ao said during the war that itachi uchiha can use genjutsu undetected to sensors.

 

[Da Best Ever]

Hm. A regular koto amatsukami is inferior to a regular tsukuyomi, but an infinite koto amatsukami would definitely be superior to an infinite tsukuyomi.

OT: that weak point would definitely make shisui's eye useless in a group battle

Actually infinite ka clearly would not be better than infinite tsukoyami because ka is not being used by Godara and Kaguya. The sage could use any jutsu and clearly kaguya is beyond him so she could as well yet neither said they were going to use infinite ka.

 

[Bangimaki]

you never saw KA working , only with itachi , but even though , naruto talked with itachi and he didn't breaked it , so... that post isn't valid.

So you mean if itachi were to act on his on free will he would like to be kabuto's puppet??, now whose post is invalid??

 

[Bangimaki]

Well as far as sensors being able to detect genjutsu well that only works against non visual genjutsu users. Clearly mifune was placed under ka by Danzo and when Ao seen with his byakugan that Danzo chakra was focused in his eyes and then Ao having faced shi sui before figured out a jutsu that controls and manipulates the target. You also fail saying anyone can break it because Danzo was caught by Ao and released the ka on mifune who didn't even know he was under ka. Also, about sensors detecting genjutsu that only works against anyone but itachi because Ao said during the war that itachi uchiha can use genjutsu undetected to sensors.

A genjutsu is a genjutsu, visual or not, you control your opponents chakra and that's the basis, so how else would itachi cast a genjutsu without it been noticed by a sensor or an outside byakugan user

 

[knation]

Actually infinite ka clearly would not be better than infinite tsukoyami because ka is not being used by Godara and Kaguya. The sage could use any jutsu and clearly kaguya is beyond him so she could as well yet neither said they were going to use infinite ka.

Maybe thats because ka hadn't existed yet