Edo Tensei, the most useless jutsu...

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

even though it's usefull in narutoverse it's a non-factor here, on narutobase for the reasons stated by Kifflom

--I didn't include edo tensei because it involves the user fighting through another character therefore it doesn't display their own potential since another character is fighting on their behalf

--I included the sage because it's obvious that he shits on pretty mch everyone bar kaguya. It's based on portrayal and manga events. On top of the fact that his mere non Jin halves (naruto and sasuke) are atleast top 5 in all lists and dominated even juubi madara, not to mention tht the dude formed the fkn moon on his death bed, his CT shits on madaras

--i also included people with borrowed powers because the users who obtain those powers fight themselves and have shown feats of using those powers, it becomes a part of their own arsenal and unlike edo tensei they are not fighting through another character

--so no my list is not "the dumbest shit ever" and if you really have a problem with my platings then state what's wrong apart from being angry about me not including edo tensei because that's just childish

I'm glad my favorite character has real powers that he can use on this site and I recommend every Orochimaru and Kabuto fans to look after a new favorite character with real OP jutsus that are allowed on NB and not ET which doesn't work here (because of the reasons stated above) because I feel bad for you. It must be really painful to see your favs always getting solo'd in the VS section... (unless his enemy is someone who's really weak, eg Sakura or Kiba)

you know only fanboys think Orochimaru can beat Itachi

peace!

 

[FleeOnSight]

While I agree with that guys post Edo tensei is classified as a summoning jutsu. Therefore it counts as the users power. Orochimaru and Kabuto stomp unfortunately.

 

[Davy Jones]

I disagree as far as the reasons displayed. but i only dont count ET because its a prep time jutsu. but at the same time it is also a summoning jutsu so it depends on how you look at it as far as jutsu usage. its relative you know. you cannot take a jutsu away from someone but also you cannot let someone use a prep time jutsu. but once again it is a summon. so its really a touchy subject

 

[HiddenSound]

Excuses, excuses

 

[Venomous Cobra]

lol every jutsu in the manga can be used by the character that masterd it, it doesn't matter what you or any other member on NB says XD

 

[Beans2]

Dumb reasons. If summoning someone else is a cheat code then so is using any summoning animal as well.

 

[Joker]

Kishimoto stated through Kabuto it was their power, so it is, stay irate.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

but kabuto is top ten without edo tensei tho :|

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

Butthurt that your fav cannot overcome Edo Tensei?

1. Edo Tensei is a jutsu that one must learn and master just as any other jutsu. The resurrected person is also bound to the user's will by the jutsu.
It's really similar to using something like genjutsu to make one of your opponents turn against one another. It's really the same thing, using your power to manipulate another, or does it not count to use genjutsu to manipulate someone?

2. The user can place the zombies on auto-pilot, or can forcefully take control and use their abilities

So really, Edo Tensei is one of the most powerful jutsus. Hell, wasn't Kabuto technically defeated by Edo Tensei? lol.

Spoiler

Not that Kabuto or 100% Orochimaru need Edo Tensei.

I disagree as far as the reasons displayed. but i only dont count ET because its a prep time jutsu. but at the same time it is also a summoning jutsu so it depends on how you look at it as far as jutsu usage. its relative you know. you cannot take a jutsu away from someone but also you cannot let someone use a prep time jutsu. but once again it is a summon. so its really a touchy subject

At the same time, however, things like Sasori's puppets and Pein Rikudou also require prep. But, like Edo Tensei, they are prepped before-hand.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

but kabuto is top ten without edo tensei tho :|

Kaguya
Sage Madara
Naruto
Sasuke
Sage Obito
PS Kakashi
BM Minato
SM Hashirama
healthy Nagato
healthy Itachi

no he isn't :|

Kishimoto stated through Kabuto it was their power, so it is, stay irate.

he also implied he was closer to the SO6P than edo Madara which wasn't true, therefore we can'T trust in his (or any other characters' statement)

Dumb reasons. If summoning someone else is a cheat code then so is using any summoning animal as well.

no because the animals aren't ninjas

lol every jutsu in the manga can be used by the character that masterd it, it doesn't matter what you or any other member on NB says XD

your argument is invalid for many reasons

read the quote I posted and you'll understand why

 

[Flakez]

with real OP jutsus that are allowed on NB

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Who are you tell me what's allowed and what's not?

 

[ARGUS]

Guys while edo tensei is a summoning technique, its still not like the most summoning,
since the user is fighting from another character,
thats like saying, that whateveer Edo Madara, did, Kabuto can do as well, since kabuto summoned him
thats clearly NOT the case,

its also not valid to list edo tensei in TOP 10 lists due to the fact that theere are far too many variables to be considered as well as the fact that the entities that they are fighting through, are the ones who have the feeats,
NOT the users themselves,

i never stated that ET is a useless jutsu in the NB, certainly not, but using it in Top 10 lists just sparks controversy and makes the list inaccurate,

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

Guys while edo tensei is a summoning technique, its still not like the most summoning,
since the user is fighting from another character,
thats like saying, that whateveer Edo Madara, did, Kabuto can do as well, since kabuto summoned him
thats clearly NOT the case,

its also not valid to list edo tensei in TOP 10 lists due to the fact that theere are far too many variables to be considered as well as the fact that the entities that they are fighting through, are the ones who have the feeats,
NOT the users themselves,

i never stated that ET is a useless jutsu in the NB, certainly not, but using it in Top 10 lists just sparks controversy and makes the list inaccurate,

The practitioner is using their own power, a jutsu which requires skill and chakra, to pull souls of the deceased back into the world on the living. These zombie are then bound to the user's will if not outright entirely controlled.

When they were alive they were distinct individuals, but as zombies they are used as tools. Hell, even summons still retain free-will, zombies do not.

It's perfectly valid and accurate.

Take Madara for example, does it not count that he used his power to control Kurama to bring an external entity into his battle against Hashirama? If he won, would it had been "his" victory?

 

[V h o]

It is not useless, however I agree that it skews the top tier list since the user is most likely getting carried by his summons/edos in this case.

 

[ARGUS]

The practitioner is using their own power, a jutsu which requires skill and chakra, to bring souls of the deceased back into retainers. These zombie are then bound to the user's will if not outright entirely controlled.

When they were alive they were distinct individuals, but as zombies they are used as tools. Hell, even summons still retain free-will, zombies do not.

It's perfectly valid and accurate.

Take Madara for example, does it not count that he used his power to control Kurama to bring an external entity into his battle against Hashirama? If he won, would it had been "his" victory?

its because a summoning is different from edo tensei,
edo tensei requires ANOTHER CHARACTER to fight, and giving another characters feats to kabuto/orochimaru is definitely invalid,

a summoning and bijuu are different since they fight alongside the character and most of the times have a contract, not to mention that summonings themselves are never considered in top ten lists, (which is where my quote is taken from), and entities such as the juubi itself arent in the top 10 either despite it being very capable of doing so,
people discard summonings in their top 10 lists everytime, yet when Edo Tensei is discraded despite the fact that ANOTHER character is fighting and despite the fact that the feats displayed from that character shouldnt be going to the ET user,
people seem to be going crazy, when its even worse to include them
and including edo tensei in top 10 is even worse based on the fact that there are too many varibales to consider,

madara using the kyuubi was counted due to the fact that he had a summoning with kurama, and could control it as well as use his OWN arseanl with it, such as covering it with PS
furthermore his victory wouldve counted because him using kurama is still the same as naruto using his,

 

[Tenshi Hikari]

Edo tensei is a powerful and useful jutsu. Just imagine summoning prev kages like Kabuto did, it will def give your enemies a hard time to fight.

 

[lelerskates]

Edo tensei is a summoning that requires a living sacrifice. It's not the same as other summoning jutsus therefore I believe it shouldn't be counted. It's not summoned by just the user and their chakra. It's summoned by the user essentially using someone elses chakra. Edo is NOT the just from the casters own power and it requires the DNA of the person you want to revive.

Stay irate, Edo lovers.... because at the end of the day, it's not their own power. Oro and Kabuto will NEVER be in the top 10.

 

[ARGUS]

Edo tensei is a summoning that requires a living sacrifice. It's not the same as other summoning jutsus therefore I believe it shouldn't be counted. It's not summoned by just the user and their chakra. It's summoned by the user essentially using someone elses chakra. Edo is NOT the just from the casters own power and it requires the DNA of the person you want to revive.

Stay irate, Edo lovers.... because at the end of the day, it's not their own power. Oro and Kabuto will NEVER be in the top 10.

ive been trying to say this for months, thank you

 

[Demonic.]

Excuses, excuses

Damn. Why they ban my niggie Hidden Sound 0_o

OT: interesting. I kinda get where you're coming from.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Edo tensei is a summoning that requires a living sacrifice. It's not the same as other summoning jutsus therefore I believe it shouldn't be counted.

Summoning requires a contract with species/person. Point?

Summoning can also be used to transport weapons that they need via Kenjutsu. So again whats that point of addressing this part?

It's not summoned by just the user and their chakra. It's summoned by the user essentially using someone elses chakra.

Good, at least you didn't deny they are using their own chakra to summon all those souls. @Bold Now please tell me whos chakra are the casters using to in order to use their Edo Tensei?

Edo is NOT the just from the casters own power and it requires the DNA of the person you want to revive.

Oh so like, he makes a contract with the DNA he has? Interesting, thats exactly how summoning techniques works, cool.

Stay irate, Edo lovers.... because at the end of the day, it's not their own power. Oro and Kabuto will NEVER be in the top 10.

Lol try again.


@Kifflom. Your reasoning is contradicting themselves. "edo tensei requires ANOTHER CHARACTER to fight, "<-- Is exactly how Summonings support and help the caster out.

"a summoning and bijuu are different since they fight alongside the character and most of the times have a contract,"

Thats exactly how Edo summons work. They fight alongside the character and HAVE to have a contract w/ it to summon them