Kakashi vs Kabuto

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Considering Kakashi outshined Sasuke 3 weeks in a row, the hate over Kakashi on the Sasuke fanbase side increased to the point of bashing him in every thread his name is involved
 

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Ok how does he counter kamui-raikiri?

Considering this tech isn't any different effect as regular Raikiri and only stronger pierce power, depending on where he strikes: Recover by either liquify or regenerate[ > ], New body[ > ]. Then we need to know how much speed improvement Kakashi had gain and will it make a significant change if Kabuto can react to it or not (Since we can't conclude landing the hit on Kagura blitzing since it was free fall).

A reasonable distance to stop the Kamui snipe? At least 100m. Even then, that gives Kakashi time to activate Susanoo and use Kamui Shurikens, which have a massive AOE. If they start at that distance, snakes will get stomped. I highly doubt Hakugeki would work at that distance. You also didn't put a location. Flat land would give Kakashi a major advantage while a cave would give Kabuto an advantage.

All the scans I post from long range Kamui, only facing Dedaira's case where it was about 100 meters and Mazo Gezo too, weren;t really 100m and still took a while. So I don't think its 100m being mandatory. Everything else you say sounds about right to me. Which is a battle on who lands their finisher first Kabuto or Kakashi
 

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What's the intel/location?
 

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Considering Kakashi outshined Sasuke 3 weeks in a row, the hate over Kakashi on the Sasuke fanbase side increased to the point of bashing him in every thread his name is involved

And what does that have to do with me?!

Have ever read any of post besides this one, and I can careless about the manga event, by the looks of my avatar and sig.

I just find the whole kakashi threads annoying.
 

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Considering this tech isn't any different effect as regular Raikiri and only stronger pierce power, depending on where he strikes: Recover by either liquify or regenerate[ > ], New body[ > ]. Then we need to know how much speed improvement Kakashi had gain and will it make a significant change if Kabuto can react to it or not (Since we can't conclude landing the hit on Kagura blitzing since it was free fall).
Kabuto isn't reacting to anything here. Jinchuriki Madara alone is vastly faster than Kabuto(it's not even comparable), yet he couldn't react to Sasuke's teleportation, something that Kaguya is continuously dancing around as if it was nothing. Black Zetsu even said by absorbing more chakra, she is even faster than before, yet Kakashi could not only react to her fastest attacks seen so far, but completely blitz her and the free fall doesn't mean much in Naruto world. We've already seen ninjas in free air capable to control their movements, dodge and escape attacks.

Besides, Kabuto is using Suigetsu's ability which is weak to raiton. It will make his body numb at the very least if not completely killing him. It's a raiton enhanced by 6paths powers and damaged someone like Kaguya who has much greater durability and healing powers than Kabuto(she tanked a barrage of biju-rasengans). Either way, by contact, if he smh survived, Kakashi could simply send him in the kamui dimension and we know not double kamui is 2times faster, but 6paths powers increased Kamui's effects dramatically according to Kakashi.
 

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Can't really see how Kakashi loses actually. His power-ups where just too much, he arguably wins without Susano. With it he's just too much, his speed is on a different level than anything Kabuto's ever faced. Raikiri ends Kabuto anytime and there's nothing Kabuto can do to stop that intangible power-up magnet. Kakashi low diff
 

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Kamui raikiri rips kabuto apart. Kamui shuriken removes all of kabuto's attacks, edos, whatever from the equation.
 

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Kabuto isn't reacting to anything here. Jinchuriki Madara alone is vastly faster than Kabuto(it's not even comparable), yet he couldn't react to Sasuke's teleportation, something that Kaguya is continuously dancing around as if it was nothing. Black Zetsu even said by absorbing more chakra, she is even faster than before, yet Kakashi could not only react to her fastest attacks seen so far, but completely blitz her and the free fall doesn't mean much in Naruto world. We've already seen ninjas in free air capable to control their movements, dodge and escape attacks.

Kakashi was able to react only with Kamui activation not his personal body movement. The same case said when Kakashi vs Sasuke Susanoo arrow. Free fall does matter in the Naruto-world I don't know what you are talking about[ > ] so you can't use that reasoning to conclude Kakashi's speed performance being dramatically increase here.

Besides, Kabuto is using Suigetsu's ability which is weak to raiton. It will make his body numb at the very least if not completely killing him. It's a raiton enhanced by 6paths powers and damaged someone like Kaguya who has much greater durability and healing powers than Kabuto(she tanked a barrage of biju-rasengans). Either way, by contact, if he smh survived, Kakashi could simply send him in the kamui dimension and we know not double kamui is 2times faster, but 6paths powers increased Kamui's effects dramatically according to Kakashi.

He isn't using Suigetsu's ability, he is copying it by using his own body fluids. Which I addressed before:

Step 1: Raiton vs Kabuto​

This jutsu isn't an effective counter to beat Kabuto at all. As Kabuto liquification doesn't come from Hozuki clan. Kabuto stated that he study their bodies and adapt his own. Kabuto stated I "used my own body fluids" as an exception. To clarify even further he stated the context between Suigetsu's and his. [ ] he tells Sasuke, that Suigetsu/Hozuki has the ability to convert his body to water and back again. So by context Kabuto is using biofluids(body water) while Hozuki clan uses water.

So what if its a little different? Well here is why: Raiton isn't natural lighting, meaning it can be manipulated for specific reasons like: Ay (amping speed and focus penetration). So basically just by observing the manga, if we focus on Raiton landing a hit on characters they never electrocute characters unless Suiton or water is being applied. So if Raiton really consulting against body fluids [ ] would electrocute the character. But as you see Orochimaru was fine and even blood was able to spill on Raiton. And of course explains why Onoki was able to ride and touch Ay Raiton shroud. So in the end since Kabuto is using biofluids we can applied it as if it were to land to any character thats not on Suiton or Hozuki clan.

Penetration =/= explosion power. We have seen it countless of time on how these damage input differs

Kakashi could simply send him in the kamui dimension and we know not double kamui is 2times faster

2times faster on another Kamui user. Both Kamui has different function in warping. So yea being 2 times faster only would work on contact.

but 6paths powers increased Kamui's effects dramatically according to Kakashi.

The context said nothing about increase its speed but more vast ability he can use with Kamui
 
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Maybe because anyone with edo Tensei is ridiculous? They're using other people's powers, not theirs. Even then, Kabuto would still lose. Kamui snipe GG before he uses Edo Tensei.

***** bye.

All the current shinobi are using the power of others GTFOH
 

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I don't think Kakashi has an appropriate response to Tayuya's sound-based genjutsu being used on him by DSM Kabuto.
 

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With that said with long range snipe, Kabuto will already be prepare to long range due to chakra built up from the eye, that he can sense. He can hide his "new" body via Oral Rebirth w/ Doton and hit Kakashi with an unexpected surprise attack, since Kakashi wouldn't be able to detect him doing.
Kakashi managed to turn his Ms on and snipe Susanoo arrows from about 20ft away. Kabuto using oral rebirth isn't happening and he can't use a doton wall in no where near that time frame. Plus double the speed. goodgame Kabuto.
 
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Kakashi was able to react only with Kamui activation not his personal body movement. The same case said when Kakashi vs Sasuke Susanoo arrow. Free fall does matter in the Naruto-world I don't know what you are talking about[ > ] so you can't use that reasoning to conclude Kakashi's speed performance being dramatically increased here.

Raikiri, even in it's previous Chidori form, has always been a technique known for its piercing and its extreme speed. That was actually the original reason his jutsu wasn't complete, per Minato.
 

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Kakashi managed to turn his Ms on and snipe Susanoo arrows from about 20ft away. Kabuto using oral rebirth isn't happening and he can't use a doton wall in no where near that time frame. Plus double the speed. goodgame Kabuto.

@Bold: Wrong it was point blank warp as we saw the velocity of the arrow made the water splash up on Kakashi (Which goes back to my own quote, debunking long range Kamui snipe warp time in long range in comparison when sniping close range). So my premise is the same when it comes to Kabuto w/ distance predicting Kamui snipe.

@Underline: You have no idea how Double Kamui speed even works. The fact that you think the close range speeds up the time to warping something else lol.


Raikiri, even in it's previous Chidori form, has always been a technique known for its piercing and its extreme speed. That was actually the original reason his jutsu wasn't complete, per Minato.

True, never denied that

Mugen Onsa, maybe?

Yea, thats his only chance
 

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Kabuto mid-high difficulty.
Obito shit himself when the kid showed him his "true power", and he never even got to see his DSM.
 

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Considering Kakashi outshined Sasuke 3 weeks in a row, the hate over Kakashi on the Sasuke fanbase side increased to the point of bashing him in every thread his name is involved

Not even its that Sasuke haters such a yourself overrates Kakashi and talk about but hurt you need someone new to ride because Sasuke dog walks Minato.

OT - Kakashi wins even with edo unrestricted
 
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