Top 10 strongest characters, realistic.

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Why is it always the Oro/Kabuto fans getting butthurt over people excluding Edo Tensei?
Because that's the only thing that makes them worthy of being in some lists lol. No but to be honest, Kabuto is strong, even without Edo Tensei, but Orochimaru isn't in my opinion.

Manga already stated, implied, and showed us that Kaguya is a tier above Madara. Lets not deny manga facts now.
Yeah I figured that you'd say that, she is a tier above him if we talk about the chakra section. Even Naruto and Sasuke held their own against her.

Rikudo already said she's stronger. Don't know why you are doubting anything.
By raw power yeah, by the way, he never fought HER he fought Juubi with her inside him. So probably a whole other fighing style and techniques.

This whole area is all types of messed up.
-Obito and Kakashi aren't above Naruto and Sasuke, not a chance in hell. Gai isn't on Sasuke or Naruto's level at this point either.
How will Naruto and Sasuke individually defeat the intangible duo (individually) except if Obito's chakra doesn't last that long, but I doubt that.
About Gai: I didn't put him above Naruto, because of the black orbs. With his speed and power, he defeats Sasuke and he would defeat Naruto too if it wasn't for his orbs.

No Kabuto? No Nagato? Yet you put Itachi here? Even Alive Minato and Tobirama would defeat him.

Itachi already defeated Kabuto and Nagato. that he cancelled Chibaku Tensei with Naruto and Bee's help doesn't mean he couldn't do it himself. if you and me were standing in front of a bear, even if you were the strongest guy in the world, I bet you wouldn't say: "Hey wait, let me take my shot first before jumping in!".
Having said that, what else can Nagato use to defeat Itachi? itachi is smarter, and he would win (again).

Same goes for Kabuto. He's strong but Itachi seals him if he can't defeat him with other strategies. I think you may start about the flute of Tayuya, but again: Itachi and Sasuke needed to get free from the genjutsu as fast as possible, the way to do that was to use genjutsu on each other. Even Shikamaru broke free from Tayuya's Genjutsu. If itachi would fight Kabuto alone, he would've used other strategies to break free from it.
 

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Because that's the only thing that makes them worthy of being in some lists lol. No but to be honest, Kabuto is strong, even without Edo Tensei, but Orochimaru isn't in my opinion.
Lmfao, along the lines of what I was thinking.


Yeah I figured that you'd say that, she is a tier above him if we talk about the chakra section. Even Naruto and Sasuke held their own against her.
No, she's a tier above him period. Naruto holding his own against her doesn't mean that Madara can beat her, it just means Naruto is strong enough to do worse to Madara. He wouldn't win though, and Sasuke has been getting wrecked by her.


By raw power yeah, by the way, he never fought HER he fought Juubi with her inside him. So probably a whole other fighing style and techniques.
Rikudo after he'd been the Juubi's Jin said Kaguya was stronger than anyone else, including himself. Whether or not they fought is irrelevant, he'd lose.



How will Naruto and Sasuke individually defeat the intangible duo (individually) except if Obito's chakra doesn't last that long, but I doubt that.
After obliterating PS, Sasuke blitzes either one with his Rinnegan, and Naruto hard counters Kamui with clones, and he is much faster than either of them, so in tandem with his clones. Once in CQC, they'll be able to hit either one of them once they become tangible to attack.

About Gai: I didn't put him above Naruto, because of the black orbs. With his speed and power, he defeats Sasuke and he would defeat Naruto too if it wasn't for his orbs.
His speed is nothing they can't react to, and he isn't getting past the Gudo Dama, nor is he getting past Perfect Susanoo. Naruto ends him with a Bijuu Dama FRS and Sasuke carves him up with PS.


Itachi already defeated Kabuto and Nagato. that he cancelled Chibaku Tensei with Naruto and Bee's help doesn't mean he couldn't do it himself. if you and me were standing in front of a bear, even if you were the strongest guy in the world, I bet you wouldn't say: "Hey wait, let me take my shot first before jumping in!".
Yes, it does. Nothing implies he could have done it himself, hence the firepower needed to actually counter it. So no, he didn't beat Nagato. Naruto and B helped Itachi, so he didn't solo Nagato.

And he didn't solo Kabuto. Sasuke helped him. Simple as that.


Having said that, what else can Nagato use to defeat Itachi? itachi is smarter, and he would win (again).
CST obliterates his Susanoo along with him.

CT crushes him.

Same goes for Kabuto. He's strong but Itachi seals him if he can't defeat him with other strategies. I think you may start about the flute of Tayuya, but again: Itachi and Sasuke needed to get free from the genjutsu as fast as possible, the way to do that was to use genjutsu on each other. Even Shikamaru broke free from Tayuya's Genjutsu. If itachi would fight Kabuto alone, he would've used other strategies to break free from it.
Kabuto doesn't beat Itachi only because of Genjutsu, he beats him because he's simply stronger.

-Muki Tensei can be used to animate the ground under Itachi and attack him, or he can toss him out of Susanoo.

-White Rage puts Susanoo down, and Kabuto finishes him.

-Kabuto dances around his jutsu until Susanoo gets dropped, then he finishes him.

-Totsuka is evaded with ease considering Kabuto dodged an arrow from Sasuke.

-Oral Rebirth for Amaterasu, Genjutsu isn't going to work, and Izanami is useless now that Kabuto has been trapped in it and has broken free.
 

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Lmfao, along the lines of what I was thinking.
Hahaha, pff man another 10 minutes of replying on my mobile...:/ I have to type the 'quote' stuff every time.

No, she's a tier above him period. Naruto holding his own against her doesn't mean that Madara can beat her, it just means Naruto is strong enough to do worse to Madara. He wouldn't win though, and Sasuke has been getting wrecked by her.
Not going to repeat myself lol, believe what you want haha.

Rikudo after he'd been the Juubi's Jin said Kaguya was stronger than anyone else, including himself. Whether or not they fought is irrelevant, he'd lose.
Did he ever fight her? Again.. He meant by POWER, but as we saw last ... chapters, she isn't a good fighter. If that's what you want to mention, I can say that he said that BEFORE Madara gained another Rinnegan plus a Sharinnegan, but there's no need for that, because he meant by power, that doesn't mean that no one (like Madara) could defeat her.

After obliterating PS, Sasuke blitzes either one with his Rinnegan, and Naruto hard counters Kamui with clones, and he is much faster than either of them, so in tandem with his clones. Once in CQC, they'll be able to hit either one of them once they become tangible to attack.
I think that they wouldn't 'blitz' any of them that easily. Obito's Sharingan plus Rikudo's chakra is just beast. Not enough to be #1, but beast.

His speed is nothing they can't react to, and he isn't getting past the Gudo Dama, nor is he getting past Perfect Susanoo. Naruto ends him with a Bijuu Dama FRS and Sasuke carves him up with PS.
Kaguya's bine got past Kakashi's PS so why couldn't Gai at full power get passed PS? You are forgetting that he fought Madara after using 7th Gate (techniques) multiple times, plus when he was in his 8th Gate his arm and some ribs were broken.

Yes, it does. Nothing implies he could have done it himself, hence the firepower needed to actually counter it. So no, he didn't beat Nagato. Naruto and B helped Itachi, so he didn't solo Nagato.
And he didn't solo Kabuto. Sasuke helped him. Simple as that.
That was because of Sasuke interrupting, Itachi didn't even fight with the intent to kill. He couldn't go all out on Kabuto while Kabuto could.

CST obliterates his Susanoo along with him.

CT crushes him.
CST (assuming that means C... Shinra Tensei?) is blocked by Yata Mirror, you saw how much bigger it was than Itachi himself, so it should be able to entirely protect Itachi from CST.
Did Madara's CT trap Team 7? Itachi could just keep jumping and attacking with Yasaka Beads.

Kabuto doesn't beat Itachi only because of Genjutsu, he beats him because he's simply stronger.

-Muki Tensei can be used to animate the ground under Itachi and attack him, or he can toss him out of Susanoo.

-White Rage puts Susanoo down, and Kabuto finishes him.

-Kabuto dances around his jutsu until Susanoo gets dropped, then he finishes him.

-Totsuka is evaded with ease considering Kabuto dodged an arrow from Sasuke.

-Oral Rebirth for Amaterasu, Genjutsu isn't going to work, and Izanami is useless now that Kabuto has been trapped in it and has broken free.
So if Kabuto dodges an arrow does it mean nothing can hit him anymore? With distractions, Sasuke's arrow hit him later, AGAIN it was because of Itachi used his brain. So there are ways to hit Kabuto, many of Itachi's attacks hit Kabuto in that fight. About the White Rage: Itachi protected Sasuke with Susanoo's arm, so he could do the same to himself. He maybe could even use a better version of Susanoo but he maybe didn't because he had to act fast. The proof is that he used Susanoo's arm even when Susanoo was supposed to be impossible to use during White Rage.
 

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#10 Itachi, I won't count BM Minato because if Kabuto wanted to, he could stop Edo Tensei on Minato anytime. People are gonna say Kabuto beats him but I don't think so, Itachi could easily seal/finish him if he really wanted to.
You mentioned that Kabuto could had undid Edo Tensei any time and make Minato leave so you don't count him, but Kabuto could also make Itachi leave any time he wanted to. Kabuto undoing Edo Tensei is the reason Itachi is no longer in the manga right now.

Edo Itachi had pseudo EMS and pseudo Izanagi, he was numbed to pain, and he had unlimited chakra; he was FAR more powerful than he ever was alive... and he still got dominated, and needed EMS Sasuke's help, and Kabuto never even used any of his Edo Tenseis against them. Kabuto also never undid Edo Tensei and instead tried to make Itachi his slave again, and was trying not to kill Sasuke because he wanted him alive.

Any excuses to get Itachi from top 20 to top 10, huh? You didn't count Hagoromo's other family, and you omitted people like Nagato, Tobirama, etc. that could bump Itachi off the list. Itachi isn't even close to the 9 above him on your list.
 
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You mentioned that Kabuto could had undid Edo Tensei any time and make Minato leave so you don't count him, but Kabuto could also make Itachi leave any time he wanted to. Kabuto undoing Edo Tensei is the reason Itachi is no longer in the manga right now.

Edo Itachi had pseudo EMS and pseudo Izanagi, he was numbed to pain, and he had unlimited chakra; he was FAR more powerful than he ever was alive... and he still got dominated, and needed EMS Sasuke's help, and Kabuto never even used any of his Edo Tenseis against them. Kabuto also never undid Edo Tensei and instead tried to make Itachi his slave again, and was trying not to kill Sasuke because he wanted him alive.

Any excuses to get Itachi from top 20 to top 10, huh?
I didn't put Edo Itachi at #10.
 

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Dumbest shit ever.

You exclude Edo feats, yet include those using the powers of others? You include a character like Hagoromo based off what?

Why do fools make top 10 list?
--I didn't include edo tensei because it involves the user fighting through another character therefore it doesn't display their own potential since another character is fighting on their behalf

--I included the sage because it's obvious that he shits on pretty mch everyone bar kaguya. It's based on portrayal and manga events. On top of the fact that his mere non Jin halves (naruto and sasuke) are atleast top 5 in all lists and dominated even juubi madara, not to mention tht the dude formed the fkn moon on his death bed, his CT shits on madaras

--i also included people with borrowed powers because the users who obtain those powers fight themselves and have shown feats of using those powers, it becomes a part of their own arsenal and unlike edo tensei they are not fighting through another character

--so no my list is not "the dumbest shit ever" and if you really have a problem with my platings then state what's wrong apart from being angry about me not including edo tensei because that's just childish
 
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