How can any new jutsu or power not be a butt pull? Is it even possible with you?

[chaos control]

People today are even calling kamui raikiri a butt pull! Seriously?! Kishi explained today why Kakashi's power makes sense. If you are wondering how Obito got sage power, it was when Naruto was trying to heal him after he got hit by ash bone jutsu. Therefore, this part is fully explained.

How then, is simply using this power creatively a butt pull?

It seems like every new power or development these days is a butt pull to you people! I mean seriously, can Naruto eat a sandwich without it being considered BS, or is it BS because Naruto shouldn't have the chakara to pick up a loaf of bread somehow?

What really annoys me is the fact that you even ignore the explanations when Kishi does explain something and then you still dismiss it as a butt pull! For example, Obito stated that chakara has the power to connect between worlds which is why he was able to use Kamui to temporarily return to Kakashi's mind. There is your explanation, but do you accept that? No! You may say that nobody else has ever done this, but the Ootsutsuki family has been doing it for centuries and Minato and Kushina used chakara entities to connect with Naruto!

Yet you still ignore this and spout illogical crap just because you don't like it!

In your mind, is there a way to power up a character without it being a butt pull? Don't you dare say training for years because this is not freaking DBZ where they could get a 3 years advanced notice before their enemies came (ie. Trunks: The androids will come in about 3 years. Raditz: The sayains will come in two years. Goku: I have 6 days to train before I get to namek. And let us not forget the hyperbolic time chamber)

This is a serious question!

Here is what the manga would be like if you people wrote it:

Chapter 1: Naruto is sitting on the floor.

688 chapters later

Chapter 689: Naruto is still sitting on the floor from the first chapter.

Don't deny that it would be like this because every little new progression is a "butt pull" to you!

Share your thoughts.

 

[Fuzzy Panda]

lol butt pull

 

[The Necromancer]

People today are even calling kamui raikiri a butt pull! Seriously?! Kishi explained today why Kakashi's power makes sense. If you are wondering how Obito got sage power, it was when Naruto was trying to heal him after he got hit by ash bone jutsu. Therefore, this part is fully explained.

How then, is simply using this power creatively a butt pull?

It seems like every new power or development these days is a butt pull to you people! I mean seriously, can Naruto eat a sandwich without it being considered BS, or is it BS because Naruto shouldn't have the chakara to pick up a loaf of bread somehow?

What really annoys me is the fact that you even ignore the explanations when Kishi does explain something and then you still dismiss it as a butt pull! For example, Obito stated that chakara has the power to connect between worlds which is why he was able to use Kamui to temporarily return to Kakashi's mind. There is your explanation, but do you accept that? No! You may say that nobody else has ever done this, but the Ootsutsuki family has been doing it for centuries and Minato and Kushina used chakara entities to connect with Naruto!

Yet you still ignore this and spout illogical crap just because you don't like it!

In your mind, is there a way to power up a character without it being a butt pull? Don't you dare say training for years because this is not freaking DBZ where they could get a 3 years advanced notice before their enemies came (ie. Trunks: The androids will come in about 3 years. Raditz: The sayains will come in two years. Goku: I have 6 days to train before I get to namek. And let us not forget the hyperbolic time chamber)

This is a serious question!

Here is what the manga would be like if you people wrote it:

Chapter 1: Naruto is sitting on the floor.

688 chapters later

Chapter 689: Naruto is still sitting on the floor from the first chapter.

Don't deny that it would be like this because every little new progression is a "butt pull" to you!

Share your thoughts.

@Bold: Already wrong. He took it from madara long ago.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

@Bold: Already wrong. He took it from madara long ago.

And Madara took back that chakra when retrieving his eye.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

@Bold: Already wrong. He took it from madara long ago.

no its not hes actually right he gave all his chakra to naruto after he took it from madara remember.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

And Madara took back that chakra when retrieving his eye.

no he didn't obito gave it to naruto.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

I don't even care anymore about the asspulls now,if they happen I roll my eyes and say my piece afterwards.

 

[The Necromancer]

And Madara took back that chakra when retrieving his eye.

That sounds familiar. Do you have a scan?

 

[ThatOfLegend]

Butt pull made me laugh hard enough to read the entire thread

OT: Meh, I don't really care, you sound a bit Butthurt to be honest

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

no he didn't obito gave it to naruto.

Obito gave the tailed beast chakra he took from Madara to Naruto,he still had the staff afterwards.

 

[slaton02]

Kishi could say eating poop will give PS and that's how kakashi got it and you will take it with open arms. BS explaination is still BS I know an asspull when I see one and if kishi gives an explaination that don't make sense it's an asspull still.

 

[Haosrithy]

Y u mad bro?

 

[Koha]

Ahhh... The refreshing attitude of the Manga's White Knights...

Ehh... The Manga went so downhill from this point, all I can do is continue reading on
and struggle to remember that they're Shinobi and not DBZ characters.

 

[Cfighter]

All random power ups this far into the game are ass pulls. This is a valid argument.

This manga has well established the need to WORK to perfect a technique. So after 689 chapters of Naruto having to work on perfecting a technique, if all of a sudden next chapter he shows off some brand new tech, then yes it is an ass pull.

 

[chaos control]

To all the people saying that Obito got the sage power from Madara, Obito only took tailed beast chakara and he gave all of that to Naruto.

However, Naruto did try to heal Obito just before he died. Naruto's senjutsu of the six paths chakara counts as rikudou chakara.

Anyway, don't dwell too much on that issue. Focus on the main topic of the thread.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

That sounds familiar. Do you have a scan?

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The area Madara grabs Obito is the same as this one where the latter stole his chakra:

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Put two and two together and evidence points to Madara taking his stolen Rikudou chakra back when he was in the Kamui dimension.

 

[The Necromancer]

To all the people saying that Obito got the sage power from Madara, Obito only took tailed beast chakara and he gave all of that to Naruto.

However, Naruto did try to heal Obito just before he died. Naruto's senjutsu of the six paths chakara counts as rikudou chakara.

Anyway, don't dwell too much on that issue. Focus on the main topic of the thread.

Obito also took Rikudou Senjutsu from Madara. Fact.

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The area Madara grabs Obito is the same as this one where the latter stole his chakra:

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Put two and two together and evidence points to Madara taking his stolen Rikudou chakra back when he was in the Kamui dimension.

So you're going with speculation? Cool. He was also checking on his puppet master seal, which was in Obito's heart.

 

[Umari Senju]

Kishi could say eating poop will give PS and that's how kakashi got it and you will take it with open arms. BS explaination is still BS I know an asspull when I see one and if kishi gives an explaination that don't make sense it's an asspull still.

Amen brother! Some people eat whatever sh*t Kishi puts to pen and consider it a masterpiece simply becuase it has the "cool" factor. :vincent:

OT: does it really matter? this kind of thing has been going on since part I. Borrowing power, spirits giving chakra away, etc. It is the very definition of butt pull ( XD ) but hey just roll with it. That's how the manga works.

 

[Koha]

All random power ups this far into the game are ass pulls. This is a valid argument.

This manga has well established the need to WORK to perfect a technique. So after 689 chapters of Naruto having to work on perfecting a technique, if all of a sudden next chapter he shows off some brand new tech, then yes it is an ass pull.

This. People suddenly forgot that Characters nearly always had to work their techniques into perfection, not gain IMMEDIATE control and mastery over techniques in a matter of 15 seconds.... All that spewing about hard work = results at this point that the Manga has been trying to portray through Naruto's hard work, Lee and Guy's character, even Sakura's hard years of training with Tsunade was all for naught with the introduction of COMPLETELY FREE POWER UPS WITH NO COSTS.

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[chaos control]

Kishi could say eating poop will give PS and that's how kakashi got it and you will take it with open arms. BS explaination is still BS I know an asspull when I see one and if kishi gives an explaination that don't make sense it's an asspull still.

It is a fictional world. You are treating it too much like the real world. If an explanation is given in a fictional world, then it makes sense period! (Especially if it doesn't contradict anything). You people need to learn that fiction is like a dream, anything can happen!

Ahhh... The refreshing attitude of the Manga's White Knights...

Ehh... The Manga went so downhill from this point, all I can do is continue reading on
and struggle to remember that they're Shinobi and not DBZ characters.

So DBZ is the only series allowed to have strong characters now? Not everybody wants to just see weaklings play with knives! I might as well watch Blues Clues if it is going to be that way!

All random power ups this far into the game are ass pulls. This is a valid argument.

This manga has well established the need to WORK to perfect a technique. So after 689 chapters of Naruto having to work on perfecting a technique, if all of a sudden next chapter he shows off some brand new tech, then yes it is an ass pull.

This is nowhere near a valid argument! First of all, there is no such thing as a perfect technique because every jutsu has a weakness! Second, different things take different times to master. Therefore some stuff is just a matter of thinking things up on the fly while others require years of hard work! How hard does it look to combine kamui and raikiri, two jutsus that Kakashi already had in the first place?! It is not rocket science, so it shouldn't take years! You people should stop acting like every little thing takes years to master!

For goodness sake, are you going to say that making a ham sandwich should take years next?

Finally, they don't have years to train. Kaguya came now! Villains aren't just going to say "I will let you train for some years to defeat me".