[Discussion] Jesus WAS and IS Real.

Is Jesus real?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 38.5%
  • No

    Votes: 8 61.5%

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I will debunk ANY and ALL who give reasons as to why Jesus is not real, open your eyes and see the world around you, the pain in people's eyes. Reach out to your neighbor or someone in need and give them a little love. You don't have to buy them anything you don't have to let them in your home, give them a hug and tell them Jesus loves them. Stop the hate, I myself am probably one of the biggest sinners and even I can see what this world really is. Please speak your mind, whether you agree with me or not I will listen, remember the door is open to anyone.
 

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It's known jesus was real the real point to Others is that he was son of god which they don't believe in god if any says Jesus was not real then they will have to argue with Jewish Muslims and Christians Romans too but he Romans are all gone Muslims agree Jessie was real but they deny him being the son of god
 

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Lets build a time machine. I'll rename myself Doctor Who. Then we'll know for sure.

Just kidding. I trust the religious scriptures. Maybe..
 

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did you see jesus with your own two eyes, i'm not saying its not real but, if you lived your whole life without the knowledge of any religion and then somebody told you these things, you would not believe it, its because you've grown up thinking it's real with the whole world says its real, so in your world it is real, but for others its completely different.
 

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So you say jesus was and is real huh.
Was implies he did exist in the past, and is implies that he still exists and is active.

So what proof do you have that he did exist?
What proof do you have to show that if he did exist that he was the son of god as you claim?

Give me your reasons.

If your reasons are acceptable then we can move on to discussing if he IS currently real.
 
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And what's the point of this completely redundant thread? Even the most atheist scientist in the world will not deny the existence of Jesus for the simple reason that historic wise it's almost impossible for him to not have existed. He was as real as Julius Caesar. The things people have been debating about for millennia is everything surrounding him, the whole parts of him preforming miracles, being the son of God and all. That he as a person once walked the Earth though there isn't much doubt about that.

If this is again one of your threads to christianize people however, it will be trashed.
 

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Yes I see the pain in the peoples eyes, even my own hurts :|

Jesus Hates the Little Children


Jesus hates the little children
All the little children of the poor.
Skin and bone, covered with flies
Jesus cheers as each one dies
Jesus hates the children of the poor.

Jesus starves the little children
All the hungry children of the world.
If he really was pure good
He'd make sure they had some food
Jesus starves the children of the world.

Jesus hates the little children
All the little children of Bhagdad.
Even though they're not to blame
They are dying just the same
Jesus hates the children of Bhagdad.

Jesus hates the little children
All the little children born with AIDS.
Even while he's giving breath
He's condemning them to death
Jesus hates the children born with AIDS.

Jesus hates the little children
All the little children raped buy priests.
Sunday schoolers, alter boys
Jesus rewards priests with toys
Jesus hates the children raped by priests.

Jesus hates the little children
That's why he wants more to abuse
He's opposed to birth control
No abortion is his goal
Jesus wants more children to abuse.

Jesus hates the little children
All the little children of the poor
They've got hunger and disease
In the winter they can freeze
Jesus hates the children of the poor

[Harry the Heretic]
 

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He was probably a real person.

He however was not the son of god, or any of that bullcrap.
 

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Jesus is an analogy for the constellations and the Solstice.
 

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I wouldn't trash Jesus of Nazareth (Rabbi or "Son of God"), but I will say that Buddha had spread those same principles nearly 600 years before. And even Buddha was influenced by many of the Bhrama and Jaina religions that pre-dated his lifetime.
 
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The thing is, apart from his miraculous deeds written in the Bible, and a few hints concerning his birth and childhood, we don't know anything about him. There were many preachers around that time, he was one of them, and became the most popular. However we don't know if the teachings put into his mouth by his biographers (the gospels were written decades after Jesus's death) were really his teachings or not. The theology of the New Testament is a mixture of Judaism, Roman and Greek philosophy, mysticism...etc. But someone must have existed who really died on that cross. Tacitus and Josephus Flavius talked about Jesus as a historical figure.

So I think that Jesus did exist, but not exactly as depicted in the Bible. He became that popular after his desciples spread that he died on the cross for our sins but he resurrected and will come back again, and anyone who believes in it- poor or rich, men or women, Romans or Jews...etc.- will get eternal happiness. Very appealing promise.
 

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The thing is, apart from his miraculous deeds written in the Bible, and a few hints concerning his birth and childhood, we don't know anything about him. There were many preachers around that time, he was one of them, and became the most popular. However we don't know if the teachings put into his mouth by his biographers (the gospels were written decades after Jesus's death) were really his teachings or not. The theology of the New Testament is a mixture of Judaism, Roman and Greek philosophy, mysticism...etc. But someone must have existed who really died on that cross. Tacitus and Josephus Flavius talked about Jesus as a historical figure.

So I think that Jesus did exist, but not exactly as depicted in the Bible. He became that popular after his desciples spread that he died on the cross for our sins but he resurrected and will come back again, and anyone who believes in it- poor or rich, men or women, Romans or Jews...etc.- will get eternal happiness. Very appealing promise.

Also funny thing is some of the Good Christian Teaching have similarity with Hindu and other Eastern Philosophies.

I wouldn't trash Jesus of Nazareth (Rabbi or "Son of God"), but I will say that Buddha had spread those same principles nearly 600 years before. And even Buddha was influenced by many of the Bhrama and Jaina religions that pre-dated his lifetime.

Actually honestly I think Buddhist teaching was a counter against the prevalent corruption and the unattractive pious system of the Jains .... thats why its called the Middle Path sometimes.
 
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Also funny thing is some of the Good Christian Teaching have similarity with Hindu and other Eastern Philosophies.
Yeah, some people say- jokingly or seriously- that in those years of his life we know nothing about, he went to Eastern Asia.
 

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If you think Jesus isn't real at this point you're trying to hard to be atheist.
 

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I'm sure you'll debunk the sh1t out of them ;)
 

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every person is unique. everyone has their own mindset, methodology and mentality.
no one should force their mentality or thinking or their own principles on others.
"live and let live" its a simple mantra.
life is fun amigo.
enjoy it.
 

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I will debunk ANY and ALL who give reasons as to why Jesus is not real, open your eyes and see the world around you, the pain in people's eyes. Reach out to your neighbor or someone in need and give them a little love. You don't have to buy them anything you don't have to let them in your home, give them a hug and tell them Jesus loves them. Stop the hate, I myself am probably one of the biggest sinners and even I can see what this world really is. Please speak your mind, whether you agree with me or not I will listen, remember the door is open to anyone.

there is litterly no evidence of the person jesus (as described in the bible) there is just nothing that proves that he ever existed, but that however, does not make it impossible for him to have existed, we just don't have any proof that he ever did...

the only think official document we have is a roman one that tells us that a man named Jesus was crucified 33 AD (which fits the timeline of Jesuses suposed crusifiction very closely) but you also have to take in to account that the name "Jesus" was the 6'th most popular name in that region of the world and at that time, which means that there would have been hundreds of Jesus'es walking around at the time.

and even if that jesus was the one that was crucified, and was the jesus the bibles refeares to (which there are no evidence off) it does in no way prove that he was the son of god or that he could perform miracles, all it proves is that a man named Jesus was crusified.
 

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Yeah, some people say- jokingly or seriously- that in those years of his life we know nothing about, he went to Eastern Asia.

I myself is skeptical of that .... but may be possible, then Jews might have had good knowledge of the trade routes.
 
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