Current MS Kakashi with Obito eye/abilities and Perfect Susano vs Hashirama

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Amaterasu is physical. Kamui is a wormhole/portal in the users line of sight. The sight is obstructed behind Susano.

so you are saying kakashi can't see through susano??? :what:

XD well that was expected... don't bother cause a physical object can pass through susano while sight is blocked...
 

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That's a big if . And until it happens we shouldn't assume anything.

No,this isn't assumption ,this is a fact
Nothing prevents him from using kamui snipe while he is inside susano
Kakashi was able to warp the hatchibi while he was inside bm naruto avatar
Sasuke was able to use amatrasu on danzu while he was inside susano
Lol,hashirama-'s flowers can easily be destroyed by one slash of PS
 

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Kakashi can fly with his winged PS out of hashirama 's range ,then kamui snipe ends this fight
Even sm hashirama can't react and evade doubled speed long range kamui
 

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Amaterasu is physical. Kamui is a wormhole/portal in the users line of sight. The sight is obstructed behind Susano.

It being physical has nothing to do with susanoo obstructing line of sight. Yet it was still used correctly. The same will go for kamui.
 

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That's a big if . And until it happens we shouldn't assume anything.

what you guys aren't understanding, though, is this: it doesn't matter if Kakashi can use kamui inside his Perfect Susanoo. You wanna know why?? Because two kamui eyes were never needed to beat Hashirama; Hashirama has no counter to intangibility and its speed, much less a kamui snipe.

People forget about the past power of a person in light of a new power up--they start tarnishing their great name over some shiny new ability. Prime example is Minato before his BM was introduced.

New Flash! Obito has always been able to stomp Hashirama with one eye and double Kamui (DK) will do it in half the time.

Not to knock Hashi or anything, it's just one Uchiha who's a bad matchup for him
 

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god ****ing dammit why is everyone on this thread bringing up Perfect Susanoo thinking it's the ultimate ****ing tech?? It's so ****ing overrated and I have yet seen it do anything praiseworthy in the manga.

Just because a character has a "trump" card (Kakashi's susanoo in this case) doesn't mean it's needed. Kakashi's/Obito's mangekyou sharingan's ability is more than enough to beat hashirama. Simply walking over to Hashi/teleporting to Hashi once he's intangible makes SS and any other tech useless. With Obito's superior warping speed (only being bested by a FTG user in a head to head), him or Kakashi takes this low diff.

Why doesn't anyone see this? Why does anyone think Perfect Susanoo is needed here? Kamui is the most haxxed ability in the manga and there's a reason Kishi had it so a user didn't have both of them until now. They're up against the progenitor of chakra. This so called "god of shinobi" poses no threat to double kamui. Speed is an important attribute to have in a fight amongst gods..

because at the level they're playing on, do you honestly think it's talent or power separating them?? Absolutely not. It's about who will be able to actually land their hit, and that's where speed and reflexes come in. Shit, Hashirama isn't even in the god tier with DK, so really, with his lacking speed, he's getting nowhere
 

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Kakashi low difficulty. Hashirama isn't reacting to dual kamui.
 

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Kakashi low difficulty without Perfect Susanoo. The chakra arms Kakashi cut with his kamui shurikens in this chapter were each much bigger than mountains:
Not only Hashirama can't counter the attack but he would get decapitated
 
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