Kakashi>>>>Sasuke

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Sasuke can easily react to Kamui.
and Kaguya shit stomp kakashi we already know this.

Kakashi already shitted on kaguya in first move
Sasuke cant react to doubled long range kamui which is powered up with rikudo chakra ,also kamui raiki gg ,even powered up kaguya couldn't react or evade it while pre powered up kaguya reacted easily to sasuke's s/t
 

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Kakashi's powerup is perfectly in-tuned with the logic of NV.
1. It has never been explained how Obito was able to return to the realm of the living to give Kakashi his power boost.

2. There is no logical explanation to how Obito knew he was able to transfer his kekkai genkai to the living. If there's a filler episode where Madara explains this shit to Obito, give me a link.

3. There is no logical explanation to how Kakashi received MS. If you want to use the "Chakra is spiritual energy" argument, and Obito gave Kakashi his chakra through his dust remains, that destroys the rules and logic behind Edo Tensei and Rinne Tensei

4. Sharingan is not able to copy kekkei genkai, therefore Kakashi shouldn't be able to copy Sasukes perfect Susanoo. If you want to argue that its Obito's Susanoo. How come Obito with double MS was not able to use any form of Susanoo?

Even if it was Obito's Susanoo that Obito never used, it doesn't explain how its automatically Perfect Susanoo. It should be the basic skeleton form.

5. Obito traveling to the world of the living does not make sense. His Sharingan ability allows him to travel to different dimensions. Kishimoto has already established the afterlife and limbo as another world.

To believe Kakashi getting Obito's sharingan and perfect susanoo makes sense is complete ignorance to the manga.
 

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Why make this about Sasuke, Kakashi is stronger than everyone, he could probably solo NV.
 

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Kakashi was able to react and go intangible in time to evade Kaguya's bone ash. Sasuke impaling with his rinne tech isn't guaranteed
 

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1. It has never been explained how Obito was able to return to the realm of the living to give Kakashi his power boost.

2. There is no logical explanation to how Obito knew he was able to transfer his kekkai genkai to the living. If there's a filler episode where Madara explains this shit to Obito, give me a link.

3. There is no logical explanation to how Kakashi received MS. If you want to use the "Chakra is spiritual energy" argument, and Obito gave Kakashi his chakra through his dust remains, that destroys the rules and logic behind Edo Tensei and Rinne Tensei

4. Sharingan is not able to copy kekkei genkai, therefore Kakashi shouldn't be able to copy Sasukes perfect Susanoo. If you want to argue that its Obito's Susanoo. How come Obito with double MS was not able to use any form of Susanoo?

Even if it was Obito's Susanoo that Obito never used, it doesn't explain how its automatically Perfect Susanoo. It should be the basic skeleton form.

5. Obito traveling to the world of the living does not make sense. His Sharingan ability allows him to travel to different dimensions. Kishimoto has already established the afterlife and limbo as another world.

To believe Kakashi getting Obito's sharingan and perfect susanoo makes sense is complete ignorance to the manga.

1. ok.

2. There is no logical explanation that S06P can transfer his shit to Naruto and Sasuke.

3. same way Sasuke got a Rinnegan.

4. Kakashi didn't copy it. He awakened it.

5. Obito didn't physically travel to the living world.

6. Kishi writes the manga. How is it ignorance?
 

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1. ok.

2. There is no logical explanation that S06P can transfer his shit to Naruto and Sasuke.

3. same way Sasuke got a Rinnegan.

4. Kakashi didn't copy it. He awakened it.

5. Obito didn't physically travel to the living world.

6. Kishi writes the manga. How is it ignorance?

2. The Sage of Six paths is a god, and gods in Naruto are shown to have super natural capabilities. Obito is just a Uchiha

3. Sasuke got Rinnegan from a GOD. I'm pretty sure gods in every form of literature have super natual capabilities.

4. If Kakashi awakened Susanoo, he should have the base form of Susanoo, which is just the skeletal rib cage.

5. You're right, Obito didn't travel to the world of the living. He was able to possess his dead ashes in the world of the living and bring Kakashi into an unknown dimension. Still illogical

Kishi made rules, when he breaks those rules, it becomes illogical. Its like me telling you all dogs are able to fly then having me later tell you that dogs can't fly at all.
 

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Man With Half of Hagoromos power >> Man with DMS and Obitos power,
 

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Lol Kakashi surprised me but Sasuke puts him in his place still.
 

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2. The Sage of Six paths is a god, and gods in Naruto are shown to have super natural capabilities. Obito is just a Uchiha

3. Sasuke got Rinnegan from a GOD. I'm pretty sure gods in every form of literature have super natual capabilities.

4. If Kakashi awakened Susanoo, he should have the base form of Susanoo, which is just the skeletal rib cage.

5. You're right, Obito didn't travel to the world of the living. He was able to possess his dead ashes in the world of the living and bring Kakashi into an unknown dimension. Still illogical

Kishi made rules, when he breaks those rules, it becomes illogical. Its like me telling you all dogs are able to fly then having me later tell you that dogs can't fly at all.


2. You already messed up. Obito became a god when he became a jin of the 10 tails. Logically he can do anything so6p can

3. Again obito is a god himself.

4.lol that's just master kakashi
 

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1. It has never been explained how Obito was able to return to the realm of the living to give Kakashi his power boost.

2. There is no logical explanation to how Obito knew he was able to transfer his kekkai genkai to the living. If there's a filler episode where Madara explains this shit to Obito, give me a link.

3. There is no logical explanation to how Kakashi received MS. If you want to use the "Chakra is spiritual energy" argument, and Obito gave Kakashi his chakra through his dust remains, that destroys the rules and logic behind Edo Tensei and Rinne Tensei

4. Sharingan is not able to copy kekkei genkai, therefore Kakashi shouldn't be able to copy Sasukes perfect Susanoo. If you want to argue that its Obito's Susanoo. How come Obito with double MS was not able to use any form of Susanoo?

Even if it was Obito's Susanoo that Obito never used, it doesn't explain how its automatically Perfect Susanoo. It should be the basic skeleton form.

5. Obito traveling to the world of the living does not make sense. His Sharingan ability allows him to travel to different dimensions. Kishimoto has already established the afterlife and limbo as another world.

To believe Kakashi getting Obito's sharingan and perfect susanoo makes sense is complete ignorance to the manga.

Someone is upset. Obito had Hagoromo power, the power to do whatever he wants, so your whole post was invalid and a big waste of effort.
 

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Ya Kakashi is way too hacks with his Kamui+winged PS. Not to mention all the chakra he needs to pull off his numerous Raiton variants. Only thing Sasuke has on Kakashi is speed.
 

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i thought sasuke still beats him but looking back at that ch again, man am not quite sure anymore(open to a convincing argument). it sucks that sasukes abilities since madara battle hasnt been developed.
 

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People only say Sasuke wins because they imagine him stronger than what he is portrayed to be. By feats, he can't beat current Kakashi. I hope people who vote for Sasuke can start to put more thoughts on this or it will all just be small talk and no action. Current Kakashi is better than him in everything by feats

- He reacted to the fastest Kaguya ever
- He forcibly closed her portals with his Kamui
- He can phase through anything
- He can create any long range teleportative objects capable to cut bigger than mountain size chakra arms(the smaller ones fodderized Sasuke's Susanoo)
- He has better brain(by far)
- He has better Susanoo
- They both have 6 paths power
- He has better teleportative jutsu(long-close-mid range without time or range limit)
- Better Raiton attacks(Kamui- Black Raikiri > Black Chidori)

He trumped Sasuke in pretty much everything in this chapter
i thought sasuke still beats him but looking back at that ch again, man am not quite sure anymore(open to a convincing argument). it sucks that sasukes abilities since madara battle hasnt been developed.
Nice to see a Sasuke fan with common sense. I put some thoughts into it, but still waiting for people favouring Sasuke for no reasons to give their arguments
 
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