Who can Solo a Modern Country?

[Kooljay]

Biological Warfare kills them all.

 

[Bluedevil]

Why does any of those weapons you've listed even matter? People with PS have withstood nukes that lower limit out at double digit megaton yeilds.
You can list all the guns the military has ever possessed and their specs, yet if the sum of them don't amount to triple digit megaton or even single digit gigaton yields, they're going to be completely irrelevant.

We're not winning a straight up fight against BM or PS users who can dish and take nukes like nothing.

I'm saying that is the standard of our arms.... not the extreme limits of our abilities. I am also saying that this is all done by 1 person and the sheer mass of continuous attacks can take out any character in naruto.

Think of it like this Humans are the most dangerous animal on this planet but there are multitudes of things that can kill us even if we are caring the most advance weapons and body armor.... things like disease, incests, environment, stampedes, natural disasters... ect. There is not a single individual that can survive everything; however in groups we manage to improve our chances to survive and thrive in any situation.

Same goes for any in Narutoverse.

Tailed Beast fires a TBB at a city and destroys it.... we fire multiple Mark 84 bomb to maime and kill that beast. (Naruto with his multiple mass Rasingan vs 9tails)

Obito shows up and phases though all attacks. We come up with a trap that disables and knocks him out before he can activate Kamu. (such as orderless gas or land mines)

Pain shows up and we detect the signals with our radar and jam the transmission rendering the Pains useless and tract back to the source.

1st Hokage sniper round to the back of the head while he is fighting our main force.

the list goes on and on ......

 

[Kagustuchi]

All Juubi Jinchuriki's (Bijudama is Multi-Continent Level when used by the Juubi)

Naruto as well probably.​

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[Bluedevil]

Biological Warfare kills them all.

1) it is "outlawed" in this theory.
2) You could theorize that any character with longevity or a healing ability could render that useless.... 5th hokage, 1st hokage, Obito, Madara... ect
also you assume that characters have a body.... Sasori...=D

 

[lanakui8]

I'm saying that is the standard of our arms.... not the extreme limits of our abilities. I am also saying that this is all done by 1 person and the sheer mass of continuous attacks can take out any character in naruto.

unless the sheer mass of continuous attacks exceeds the power of the nukes that people in naruto have tanked, then no simply having a lot of people firing off attacks does not mean they take out a character in naruto. plus, while they are firing off their attacks, the character is going to be firing off his nukes which will almost instantly wipe out any and all forces within the battlefield unless they have defenses that can withstand a nuke.

Think of it like this Humans are the most dangerous animal on this planet but there are multitudes of things that can kill us even if we are caring the most advance weapons and body armor.... things like disease, incests, environment, stampedes, natural disasters... ect. There is not a single individual that can survive everything; however in groups we manage to improve our chances to survive and thrive in any situation.

um sure, yet that doesn't mean anything in the context of this thread titled "who can solo a modern country?" Natural disasters, the environment, incest, stampedes are completely irrelevant against a singular character who can withstand nukes and will not be breeding while trying to take over a country.

you can't just put a list of things that make numbers of individuals an advantage over a single person, you have to actually compare those advantages that the numbers have over the individual to the advantages the individual has over the numbers within the context of this thread.

 

[Touken]

One stray nuke is all it takes.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Name some characters you think are capable of completely taking down one of our real world modern day countries. (Civilians Police, Military). Countries like Russia, Japan, USA, Germany, etc.

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Keep in mind these characters have to deal with various hand guns, modern day explosives, shot guns, various rifles, tanks, various missiles, and various aircrafts, bomer planes, and fighter planes. (Excluding weapons that endanger civilians. (No nukes/bombs/chemical weapons).

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In my opinion, Kaguya, Naruto, and SO6P Madara could easily solo a modern day country because they have the destructive capacity to take out an entire army of soldiers and weapons in several attacks.

Kabutomaru with his army of Edo's could also solo a modern day country (excluding Madara and Itachi). He can simply send out his Edo's to do all the work while remaining in an unknown location.

IMO Sasuke and Itachi on the other hand could not, seeing how they have low chakra stamina. They might have a good 30min to 1 hour run, but eventually their eyes will be over strained and will be sitting ducks to any sort of firing squad.​

Sasuke has amazing stamina. Itachi would not.

OT: no one. A nuke, could take them out and they don't have the tools to fight a war with any major nation other than possibly japan

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

One stray nuke is all it takes.

Agent Orange negs all. America has not waged full scaled war since we demolished japan

 

[zimmy120]

Naruto: clone army, tailed beast bomb/ rasenshuriken, ect.

Sasuke: fireballs, amaterasu, perfect sasunno, genjustu, ect.

Kakashi: fireballs, kamui, lightning, ect.

Madara: meteor ( I believe madara killed the dinosaurs)

Ten ten: uses clones and puts a explosive kunai into volcanoes

Minato: teleports earth into sun

Ramen guy: poisons ramen noodles

yup I'm going to stop now

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Even if they suddenly attack the country unsuspectingly the army will eventually organize themselves and get their act together forming plans, grouping up,etc. Although I do admit Naruto is one of the ninjas who can solo. I meant those like Hashirama, Hiruzen, Tobirama, Minato, etc would eventually lose.

What does Naruto do to a point blank thermonuclear bomb 87x more powerful than the one that decimated cities. And that is one of the weaker modern nukes

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Naruto: clone army, tailed beast bomb/ rasenshuriken, ect.

Sasuke: fireballs, amaterasu, perfect sasunno, genjustu, ect.

Kakashi: fireballs, kamui, lightning, ect.

Madara: meteor ( I believe madara killed the dinosaurs)

Ten ten: uses clones and puts a explosive kunai into volcanoes

Minato: teleports earth into sun

Ramen guy: poisons ramen noodles

yup I'm going to stop now

You have no idea what the 5 major nations can do.

America Stomps

Russia low diffs

China Mid Diffs

Japan Extreme diffs

England loses

 

[lanakui8]

One stray nuke is all it takes.

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[Lana Del Taka]

You have no idea what the 5 major nations can do.

America Stomps

Russia low diffs

China Mid Diffs

Japan Extreme diffs

England loses

Lol, no.

OT: btw, do people know the countries would have to be miles away from whoever they're facing to launch a nuke?

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Any juubi jinchuriki could destroy the country with Juubidama's.

 

[zimmy120]

You have no idea what the 5 major nations can do.

America Stomps

Russia low diffs

China Mid Diffs

Japan Extreme diffs

England loses

I'm pretty sure a meteor whipped out the earth before, and madara summoned a meteor pretty easily and with how close it was, there would be no time to react. And it all depends how they attack too.

 

[zimmy120]

Lol, no.

OT: btw, do people know the countries would have to be miles away from whoever they're facing to launch a nuke?

Exactly but nukes aren't allowed but if there were they could easily be destroyed before it gets close. But since the thread says no harm to civillians, then the country can't use anything explosive in a big city or even a small city because it would kill civilians

 

[Bluedevil]

unless the sheer mass of continuous attacks exceeds the power of the nukes that people in naruto have tanked, then no simply having a lot of people firing off attacks does not mean they take out a character in naruto. plus, while they are firing off their attacks, the character is going to be firing off his nukes which will almost instantly wipe out any and all forces within the battlefield unless they have defenses that can withstand a nuke.


um sure, yet that doesn't mean anything in the context of this thread titled "who can solo a modern country?" Natural disasters, the environment, incest, stampedes are completely irrelevant against a singular character who can withstand nukes and will not be breeding while trying to take over a country.

you can't just put a list of things that make numbers of individuals an advantage over a single person, you have to actually compare those advantages that the numbers have over the individual to the advantages the individual has over the numbers within the context of this thread.

1. Clearly misunderstood my human vs the world comparison

2. I think you are taking very strong liberties with these characters.. Just how much Chakara is in this entire universe? None. (a given)
What is the ability for a character to mould any new chakara once here? We don't know ....It might be that they can't obtain any new chakara because of the ways that our reality is governed. Or it could be that jitsu works very differently here or they might not have any jitsu at all.

Now lets just assume that everything is the exact same

3. Characters in the Narutoverse often do not survive Tail beast bombs. If it is a direct hit they are done for...But when they have unique abilities like Sunnosso they do have durability but that does not mean they can not be broken through....

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Both of these are clearly not as powerful as a TBB.

4. US plans very often do not involve a "big shiny attack" like firing off a nuke. They involve much smarter ways of dealing with the enemy (refer to my earlier post with the 1st, obito, pain, or a tailed beast vs the USA.)

 

[lanakui8]

1. Clearly misunderstood my human vs the world comparison

explanation for how i've misunderstood that?

2. I think you are taking very strong liberties with these characters.. Just how much Chakara is in this entire universe? None. (a given)
What is the ability for a character to mould any new chakara once here? We don't know ....It might be that they can't obtain any new chakara because of the ways that our reality is governed. Or it could be that jitsu works very differently here or they might not have any jitsu at all.

chakra used naturally returns to the users so it doesn't matter if there is any chakra at all in this world before the character enters it. Plus, the thread is clearly operating under the assumption that for the naruto character and chakra all things are equal to how it would be if he was in his own verse as it's putting the character's manga powers against the forces of a country in our world.

Now lets just assume that everything is the exact same

Which is the assumption that doesn't need to be stated.

3. Characters in the Narutoverse often do not survive Tail beast bombs. If it is a direct hit they are done for...But when they have unique abilities like Sunnosso they do have durability but that does not mean they can not be broken through....

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Both of these are clearly not as powerful as a TBB.

1) madara's V3 getting held by war arc gaara's sand doesn't mean anything about a susanoo thousands of times larger.
2) Kaguya's chakra arms are clearly more powerful than a TBB as they'd have to be in order to do that to susanoo, and mindless juubito's tore the hokage's barrier that withstood a juubi bijuudama.

4. US plans very often do not involve a "big shiny attack" like firing off a nuke. They involve much smarter ways of dealing with the enemy (refer to my earlier post with the 1st, obito, pain, or a tailed beast vs the USA.)

copy and paste your argument then for exactly how they'd deal with a hypersonic threat that can tank and dish nukes far more powerful than the US can dish.

 

[Bluedevil]

explanation for how i've misunderstood that?


chakra used naturally returns to the users so it doesn't matter if there is any chakra at all in this world before the character enters it. Plus, the thread is clearly operating under the assumption that for the naruto character and chakra all things are equal to how it would be if he was in his own verse as it's putting the character's manga powers against the forces of a country in our world.


Which is the assumption that doesn't need to be stated.


1) madara's V3 getting held by war arc gaara's sand doesn't mean anything about a susanoo thousands of times larger.
2) Kaguya's chakra arms are clearly more powerful than a TBB as they'd have to be in order to do that to susanoo, and mindless juubito's tore the hokage's barrier that withstood a juubi bijuudama.


copy and paste your argument then for exactly how they'd deal with a hypersonic threat that can tank and dish nukes far more powerful than the US can dish.

1) Chakra (チャクラ, chakura) is essential to even the most basic technique; it is the moulding of the physical energy (身体エネルギー, shintai enerugī) present in every cell of the body and the spiritual energy (精神エネルギー, seishin enerugī) gained from the mind. Once moulded, it can be channelled through the chakra circulatory system, which is to chakra as the regular circulatory system is to blood, to any of the 361 chakra points (called tenketsu) in the body. Through various methods, the most common of which is hand seals, the chakra can then be controlled and manipulated to create an effect that would not be possible otherwise, such as walking on water, exhaling fire or creating illusions. -narutowiki-

How does it return naturally? Both your body and mind must be sound and then you must mould it.... otherwise forcing a jitsu will backfire.
Here is an interesting question... What happens when you place 1 animal in a entirely new environment? Your body becomes severely stressed and may not adapt to the new environment... you could even die from too radical change. My point is relevant because we are taking characters to survive in a high chakara environment (even plants and animals have chakara) to one that has nothing.... its like taking a tropical animal and releasing it into a desert.
Therefore this is a valid concern for naruto characters.

2)Then it seems that you and I are nitpicking over the "power" or "speed" of a tech. Please provide a accurate scale we can both use because simply deeming a tech is more powerful or less powerful or more or less quick is biased and can not be debated.

3)As for Man vs the World I am using an analogy to illustrate that a single person can not realistically handle every eventuality.

4) I will take you up on that challenge of the "indestructible goddess".
As for a hypersonic person (which no character has yet shown) who can "Tank a nuke" they could use Typical cruise missiles. They travel at around 500 to 600 mph (800 to 965 km/h). Which is generally defined as anything that reaches at least Mach 5, or five times the speed of sound. (The speed of sound at sea level is about 762 mph, or 1,226 km/h.)

Now which type of nuke are we talking? There is the one which flattened hiroshima and Nakagasaki or are we talking a Hydrogen bomb?
Either way I would suggest Aviation Thermobaric Bomb of Increased Power (ATBIP), nicknamed "Father of All Bombs" (FOAB) this is a Russian-made air-delivered/land-activated thermobaric weapon. In describing the bomb's destructive power, Russian deputy chief of the general staff Alexander Rukshin was quoted as saying, "all that is alive merely evaporates."[1] The bomb is reportedly four times as powerful as the US military's GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb (whose official military acronym "MOAB" is often colloquially called the "Mother of All Bombs" as a backronym). This makes it the most powerful conventional (non-nuclear) weapon in the world.
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Then we have a whole range of lazes, chemical weapons, advanced radiation and antimatter too boot.... Any other standers for me to follow? I am very intrigued by someone I can talk to about this. *_*

 

[lanakui8]

1) Chakra (チャクラ, chakura) is essential to even the most basic technique; it is the moulding of the physical energy (身体エネルギー, shintai enerugī) present in every cell of the body and the spiritual energy (精神エネルギー, seishin enerugī) gained from the mind. Once moulded, it can be channelled through the chakra circulatory system, which is to chakra as the regular circulatory system is to blood, to any of the 361 chakra points (called tenketsu) in the body. Through various methods, the most common of which is hand seals, the chakra can then be controlled and manipulated to create an effect that would not be possible otherwise, such as walking on water, exhaling fire or creating illusions. -narutowiki-

How does it return naturally? Both your body and mind must be sound and then you must mould it.... otherwise forcing a jitsu will backfire.
Here is an interesting question... What happens when you place 1 animal in a entirely new environment? Your body becomes severely stressed and may not adapt to the new environment... you could even die from too radical change. My point is relevant because we are taking characters to survive in a high chakara environment (even plants and animals have chakara) to one that has nothing.... its like taking a tropical animal and releasing it into a desert.

Chakra returns naturally since we've seen shinobi regain their own chakra back naturally....

2)Then it seems that you and I are nitpicking over the "power" or "speed" of a tech. Please provide a accurate scale we can both use because simply deeming a tech is more powerful or less powerful or more or less quick is biased and can not be debated. [/QOUTE]
how can it not be debated? If Susanoo withstands a nuke, and another attack destroys it, then that said attack is more powerful or inflicts more damage on Susanoo than a nuke.

3)As for Man vs the World I am using an analogy to illustrate that a single person can not realistically handle every eventuality.

...sure but why does that even apply to this argument? the characters aren't up against every eventuality.

4) I will take you up on that challenge of the "indestructible goddess".
As for a hypersonic person (which no character has yet shown) who can "Tank a nuke" they could use Typical cruise missiles. They travel at around 500 to 600 mph (800 to 965 km/h). Which is generally defined as anything that reaches at least Mach 5, or five times the speed of sound. (The speed of sound at sea level is about 762 mph, or 1,226 km/h.)

there are a bunch of feats that easily put the naruto characters at hypersonic. SM Naruto threw a rasenshuriken that crossed a mountain range in a second.

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base naruto traveled to the top of the shinjuu which is over 100km tall in minutes.

Now which type of nuke are we talking? There is the one which flattened hiroshima and Nakagasaki or are we talking a Hydrogen bomb?
Either way I would suggest Aviation Thermobaric Bomb of Increased Power (ATBIP), nicknamed "Father of All Bombs" (FOAB) this is a Russian-made air-delivered/land-activated thermobaric weapon. In describing the bomb's destructive power, Russian deputy chief of the general staff Alexander Rukshin was quoted as saying, "all that is alive merely evaporates."[1] The bomb is reportedly four times as powerful as the US military's GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb (whose official military acronym "MOAB" is often colloquially called the "Mother of All Bombs" as a backronym). This makes it the most powerful conventional (non-nuclear) weapon in the world.
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Then we have a whole range of lazes, chemical weapons, and antimatter too boot.... Any other standers for me to follow?

the tsar bomb is the most powerful nuke detonated to date and it only had a yield of 50 megatons. Standard bijuudamas generate fireballs that put them in the gigaton ranges as they're over 5 kilometers in diameter, and it took 13+ of those to destroy Madara's PS.