kaksashi > hokages?

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Hashirama is still walking around and don't need borrowed Asspull powerups to be relevant. your point?
Hashirama is irrelevant against kaguya,one jiubi doma can end him but kakashi can counter any jiubi doma by his intangibility

Actually hashirama power is asspull too,we don't know why he was the only one to be born with wooden abilities so far ,till it is explained ,it is a big asspull

Even naruto who is the main character ,nearly all his power are borrowed
 

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Hashirama is irrelevant against kaguya,one jiubi doma can end him but kakashi can counter any jiubi doma by his intangibility

Actually hashirama power is asspull too,we don't know why he was the only one to be born with wooden abilities so far ,till it is explained ,it is a big asspull

Even naruto who is the main character ,nearly all his power are borrowed
LMAO ok body tell me again how Perfect Susanoo is better then ShinSenjuu Statue again? Madara lost with a full powered Kyuubi & Perfect Susanoo also didn't use his tail beast Summonings hashirama smacks Kakashi around
 
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Hashirama is irrelevant against kaguya,one jiubi doma can end him but kakashi can counter any jiubi doma by his intangibility

Actually hashirama power is asspull too,we don't know why he was the only one to be born with wooden abilities so far ,till it is explained ,it is a big asspull

Even naruto who is the main character ,nearly all his power are borrowed
This is just laughable. Even without "borrowed powers" Naruto was still relevant. Kakashi without borrowed powers was useless on the battlefield and he even admitted this himself. Manga fact. The only thing Kakashi is going to do is stall Kaguya while the Edo Hokage work their plan with the sage of six paths.
 

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Are you serious?you can't decide if kakashi is above tusonade and hiruzen or not because you haven't seen much from kakashi's ps?
You know What? I'll make a thread about you tomorrow ,remember that i really want to see your full opinion tomorrow lol
I definitely put kakashi above tsunade i put him above her with just one sharingan also I do believe kakashi would win against hiruzen ATM only because I just don't see hiruzen fighting off a perfect susanoo himself kakashi i would EXPECT kakashi to be right above tobirama head to head with minato and just a lot weaker then hashirama...
 

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Are you serious?you can't decide if kakashi is above tusonade and hiruzen or not because you haven't seen much from kakashi's ps?
You know What? I'll make a thread about you tomorrow ,remember that i really want to see your full opinion tomorrow lol
My I want to wait and see for sure because people are already assuming he's the strongest and that's alright in fact he did tell team 7 to stand together and watch him but still to say he's stronger then minato hashirama is a little over the top tbh we all know he smash tsunade but it gets challenging with hiruzen afterall hiruzen is a match for orochimaru who is absolutely no slouch
 

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LMAO ok body tell me again how Perfect Susanoo is better then ShinSenjuu Statue again? Madara lost with a full powered Kyuubi & Perfect Susanoo also didn't use his tail beast Summonings hashirama smacks Kakashi around
I don't say kakashi PS is better than buddaha lol
Whatever you started it ,perfect kamui is better than anything hashirama has ,kakashi has much better defence (flying ps,intangibility and teleportation)and much better attack(long range kamui and PS) than hashirama
Don't put ems madara in this because ems and kiuybi's head would be one shot by kamui
And since when hashirama was able to summon bijus to fight with him ?
 

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This is just laughable. Even without "borrowed powers" Naruto was still relevant. Kakashi without borrowed powers was useless on the battlefield and he even admitted this himself. Manga fact. The only thing Kakashi is going to do is stall Kaguya while the Edo Hokage work their plan with the sage of six paths.
Do you think naruto without borrowed power (bijus,rikudo senjutsu)can stand against kaguya for a second?
If you think so ,then you are dreamer
 

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im seeing alot of people saying that kakashi is stronger than all previous hokage as i do agree he is very powerful but i disagree with this.

i think he could kill princess tsunade, current hiruzen and maybe the 2nd hokage buti feel hashirama and minato would be to much for for a few reasons:

his stamina: kakashi does not have the worst stamina but compared to hashirama he has nothing as he is ashras incarnation and a senju and minato has kurama mode.

minato: he has taken out obito once after learning his ability mere seconds before now with kurama mode kakashi dies as minato has more chakra and is faster.

hashirama: we have seen him take out madaras PS and madaras sussano and i think its fair to say madara is more use to sussano than kakashi also he has alot more chakra being an uchiha and indras reincarnation.

that is a few of my reasons but if you disagree please tell me why as im interested in everyones thoughts
Nope, Kakashi is going blind in the Sharingan he had as we see him say when Gai was fighting Madara and he needed Gaara to take him very close just to use his Kamui so Kakashi isn't sniping anyone if he's not right in their face. Kakashi doesn't have speed to keep up with Minato or Tobirama so he can't Kamui them at all while they have the speed to attack him. Kakashi would be like Sasuke was against A where he couldn't react at all and needed Susanoo to protect him.

Since Kakashi is going blind in 1 eye, he will lose Susanoo and that Kamui and be stuck with only Obito's Kamui which he has no experiences using and we see him take over 200 chapters to get the hang of his Kamui alone. Hiruzen might beat Kakashi as well, Kakashi can use lightning/water/earth jutsus while Hiruzen can use all 5 elements so PS would be the game changer in that match. So Hashirama, Tobirama, and Minato all beat Kakashi without a doubt while Hiruzen is a maybe depending how he handles PS.
 

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I don't say kakashi PS is better than buddaha lol
Whatever you started it ,perfect kamui is better than anything hashirama has ,kakashi has much better defence (flying ps,intangibility and teleportation)and much better attack(long range kamui and PS) than hashirama
Don't put ems madara in this because ems and kiuybi's head would be one shot by kamui
And since when hashirama was able to summon bijus to fight with him ?
The strength of Perfect Susanoo can't stop ShinSenju can't stop it, Multiply bijuu dama with susanoo sword slashes couldn't stop
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Kakashi can't maintain Perfect Susanoo longer then Hashirama can ShinSenju in Sage Mode he can sense were his appoint attacks from and easier to react.


Hashirama had them under his control.

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Kakashi already stated he couldn't see well in the left eye.
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