Madara doesn't receive enough credit.

[Antichrist]

Thats not the point,
Black Zetsu guided and helped him obtain the power he has. It was Black Zetsu manipulating Madara the whole time, Madara would have never achieved this on his own

What if BZ changed that monument with the help of Indra .

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Oh ok then. and don't use "lel" at the end of your sentences for its my thing. lel

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Gotcha Lol.

 

[Fair Warning]

Madara wasn't manipulated.

How did BZ guide madara? He changed the text of the tablet long before madara was in existence.

Achieve what? What did BZ do except tell kabuto his whereabouts to be an Edo.

How about giving Madara Rinnegan?

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[XY iNVeRSe]

How about giving Madara Rinnegan?

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Hagoromo wrote how to obtain the rinnegan, BZ wrote how to obtain the third eye. Try again.

And how did he give him the rinnegan? I didn't see BZ fight his heart out to gain Hashi's DNA, nor did I see him implant rinnegan into madara's eyes.

 

[Fair Warning]

Hagoromo wrote how to obtain the rinnegan, BZ wrote how to obtain the third eye. Try again.

And how did he give him the rinnegan? I didn't see BZ fight his heart out to gain haciendas m Hashi's DNA, nor did I see him implant rinnegan into madara's eyes.

Did you read the part where Black Zetsu said, " I approached each clan to get them to awaken the Rinnegan."

And Madara was successful.

Try again

 

[Antichrist]

How about giving Madara Rinnegan?

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He didn't give him Rinnegan ..... he just changed those text on that monument ( as he say ) .... if he gave Rinnegan to Madara as you say , then why he didn't gave it to Indra's previous reincarnations .

 

[ByakuganUser]

I guess Black Zetsu is the true solo God.

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[XY iNVeRSe]

Did you read the part where Black Zetsu said, " I approached each clan to get them to awaken the Rinnegan."

And Madara was successful.

Try again

When did he ever approach madara, if madara believed BZ was his will? Try again.

Unless you recall BZ slipping in his body while madara was dead. I assume that's how he did every indra reincarnation, just join them when they're sleep or some shit.

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

I guess Black Zetsu is the true solo God.

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No, he isn't.

 

[Fair Warning]

When did he ever approach madara, if madara believed BZ was his will? Try again.

Unless you recall BZ slipping in his body while madara was dead. I assume that's how he did every indra reincarnation, just join them when they're sleep or some shit.

Im just telling you what the manga says, which is that BZ approached each clan waiting for one to unlock the Rinnegan.


Idk, Kishimoto is confusing lol

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

Do you know what puppet even means . BZ just showed the way of IT to Madara and thats all .

Madara decided to follow that road on his own , BZ didn't force him to do that .

If Madara didn't do that .... then what remains for him ..... He lost his followers .... lost his brothers .... lost everything .... IT was better

For him .

Madara is a puppet
IT wasn't even his own plan, it was all BZ's doing.
If it wasn't for BZ, Madara would have never revived the Juubi or awakened the rinnegan, meaning IT would have failed.
BZ is the manipulator, Madara is the pawn.

 

[Antichrist]

I guess Black Zetsu is the true solo God.

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Actually stabbing someone from behind is a coward doing . If BZ is a solo god then he must fight Madara face to face .

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Im just telling you what the manga says, which is that BZ approached each clan waiting for one to unlock the Rinnegan.


Idk, Kishimoto is confusing lol

He did approach madara. When madara was dead after fighting Hashirama. But he did nothing before that except change the text of the tablet.

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Madara is a puppet
IT wasn't even his own plan, it was all BZ's doing.
If it wasn't for BZ, Madara would have never revived the Juubi or awakened the rinnegan, meaning IT would have failed.
BZ is the manipulator, Madara is the pawn.

Madara would have awakened the rinnegan. Hagoromo wrote it on the tablet, BZ added and showed how to unlock the third eye.

What's the definition of manipulate? Because madara was deceived IMO.

 

[Zlatán]

He's the only one to truly solo the Juubi.

He solo'd Naruto and sasuke with neg diff.

He won the fight against Gai.

He casted Infinite Tsukuyomi and solo'd the entire NV excluding team 7.

He was the only uchiha (including indra the ancestor) to awaken the Rinnegan.

He managed to become a top 3 character through pure skill and intelligence.

The list goes on, but people still call him "faildara" or "fodara" which doesn't make since.

He's actually the solo god by feats, but we can leave that "solo king"shit to itachibase

Laughed @bold

I'm being honest Madara was a badass but the way he was replaced within a chapter kinda ruined his character

 

[Antichrist]

Madara is a puppet
IT wasn't even his own plan, it was all BZ's doing.
If it wasn't for BZ, Madara would have never revived the Juubi or awakened the rinnegan, meaning IT would have failed.
BZ is the manipulator, Madara is the pawn.

Show me an image on how BZ is puppeting Madara .

IT was Madara plan ..... BZ just changed those text on the monument ..... and Madara believed that the IT is better than this Hell which he is living in .

and then he begun to plan for IT by following those footsteps on that monument .

 

[Hiraishin Stage 3]

Solo is quite a cancerous word and should be banned

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Laughed @bold

I'm being honest Madara was a badass but the way he was replaced within a chapter kinda ruined his character

Yeah it did, and I can tell u that in every madara vs thread, they bring up the same BZ scan and sasuke scans which is all they got.

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

Show me an image on how BZ is puppeting Madara .

IT was Madara plan ..... BZ just changed those text on the monument ..... and Madara believed that the IT is better than this Hell which he is living in .

and then he begun to plan for IT by following those footsteps on that monument .

Hagoromo didn't put IT on the tablet, BZ did.
He did it so that Madara would initiaite HIS plan.
Madara may have thought that IT was his plan, and that he was bringing peace, but in actuality, it was BZ's plan
Proof that Madara is a puppet:

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[~Ethereal~]

Please, don't disgrace the Madara fanbase.