Keeping Naruto being Minato's son a secret didn't make sense

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Security risks. Random Uzumaki kid VS fourth's son. Even him being kyuubi was mostly under wrap and only seniors knew. Few peope knew Minato had a son for the child birth had been a secret to begin with.

Hiruzen apparently thought it wouldn't do much good to Naruto to know whose son he was. Due to kyuubi and the carnage others were not going to be helpful much and Naruto himself would only be enraged more or think himself entitled to things or be shouting it on lung top. His attention seeking stunts back then didn't help either. .. And of curse Plot device.
 

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Security risks. Random Uzumaki kid VS fourth's son. Even him being kyuubi was mostly under wrap and only seniors knew.

Few peope knew Minato had a son for the child birth had been a secret to begin with.

Hiruzen apparently thought it wouldn't do much good to Naruto to know whose son he was. Due to kyuubi and the carnage others were not going to be helpful much and Naruto himself would only be enraged more or think himself entitled to things or be shouting it on lung top. His attention seeking stunts back then didn't help either. .. And of curse Plot device.

@Bold 1: That was only true for Kushina and Mito, or did you forget that seemingly everyone hated him? Mizuki knew, Iruka too, Kotetsu, Izumo, and Ebisu to name a few more.

@Bold 2: I don't think that it's as little as you think, also anyone with half a brain could put that together, even Ay (The Yondaime Raikage) knew both of his parents seemingly instantly.

I also highly doubt that Naruto would announce it out loud, he isn't as big a moron as people think, after all; he did keep the fact that he was the Kyuubi Jinchuuriki hidden, also about the Mizuki incident.
 

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@Bold 1: That was only true for Kushina and Mito, or did you forget that seemingly everyone hated him? Mizuki knew, Iruka too, Kotetsu, Izumo, and Ebisu to name a few more.

@Bold 2: I don't think that it's as little as you think, also anyone with half a brain could put that together, even Ay (The Yondaime Raikage) knew both of his parents seemingly instantly.

I also highly doubt that Naruto would announce it out loud, he isn't as big a moron as people think, after all; he did keep the fact that he was the Kyuubi Jinchuuriki hidden, also about the Mizuki incident.


In short the seniors. The older people knew about him being jinchuriki and thus hated him. Hiruzen had forbidden them to talk about it. The kids hated him because their parents for some unknown reason disliked him. But they( the newer generation) didn't know about him being a jinchuriki , let alone about being related with Minato.





Even Sakura didn't know till Gara rescue arc. That was the first time Kakashi let it out. Neji couldn't figure out how Naruto could use any chakra after his attack in chunin exams. Sasuke kept wondering how Naruto was that strong when he fought Gara.

How many people knew about the second piece of info that, him being fourth's own son as well, is still debatable. Itachi knew but when he said he came for "Fourth's legacy " not many put two and two together. So I think this info was related at need only basis.

Iruka knew about him being jinchuriki but the third in that panel still didn't mention him being Mianto's son but kept that ambiguous. Itachi knew probably because he was in ANBU at one point but when he mentioned he was after "the fourth's legacy" not many understood what he was talking about- the word was often seen as reference to him being the jinchuriki alone. Oro mentions a rumour about fourth sealing kyuubi in a kid when he first met Naruto.

There were theories, rumours but few people knew the whole deal.

As for Naruto-- yes he did keep his mouth shut. He in fact has been privy to many incidents where some prime info was revealed and he knew better than to yap about it. There is this tiny factor that being a jinchuriki was not a positive info when people saw him as a monster already. About being son of former Hokage is different. But I agree with you. But the third back then wouldn't know it beforehand. He was a little worried about how Naruto would turn out or affect Konohamaru when he was first introduced. Today we can say Naruto was wiser than he was given credit for- or at least had some instincts which keep him on the right track.

And as I said before- a plot device to make people guess. Today you say it was obvious. But back then when someone said that people often argued negatively and had many theories abotu his dad as well as Mianto. When Minato's ID was revealed, Tobi ID theories took over.
 
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Very few people knew Minato had a son. Why would Konoha have volunteered that information? Naruto would have perhaps been treated better but that wasn't guaranteed, and if Kumo targeted his mother at least twice for being a jinchūriki then what would they do if they knew her son was one too? They already said Minato and Kushina made a lot of enemies. Keeping Naruto's origins a secret was the safest way of going about it.
 

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basically, minato >>> prime hiruzen, because people feared him while others didn't fear hiruzen

Hiruzen was not in his prime during the Third War. It was 12 years before part 1 started which would put Hiruzen at 58.

Also, people did fear Hiruzen. Hanzo spared the Sannin all in fear of Prime Hiruzen.
 

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Very few people knew Minato had a son. Why would Konoha have volunteered that information? Naruto would have perhaps been treated better but that wasn't guaranteed, and if Kumo targeted his mother at least twice for being a jinchūriki then what would they do if they knew her son was one too? They already said Minato and Kushina made a lot of enemies. Keeping Naruto's origins a secret was the safest way of going about it.

Actually, people outside the village already Naruto was a Jin. Such as Tsunade who left the village long before the attack happened and never came back until the third died.
 

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Actually, people outside the village already Naruto was a Jin. Such as Tsunade who left the village long before the attack happened and never came back until the third died.

I didn't say they didn't, not that there are many or them. The point is that Naruto's parentage would only have made him a bigger target.
 

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I didn't say they didn't, not that there are many or them. The point is that Naruto's parentage would only have made him a bigger target.

Okay. But making his last name Uzakmai is kind of counter-productive to that...

The kids hated him because their parents for some unknown reason disliked him.

I'm pretty sure the reason was because he was a Jin.
 
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Okay. But making his last name Uzakmai is kind of counter-productive.

I think Kishi added a lot about the Uzumaki in retrospect though. I'm sure he had ideas in mind like the spiral symbol and such but I doubt they existed as we know then at the start if the manga.

To be fair, they're a pretty obscure clan to begin with since they were wiped out a long time ago.
 

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I think Kishi added a lot about the Uzumaki in retrospect though. I'm sure he had ideas in mind like the spiral symbol and such but I doubt they existed as we know then at the start if the manga.

To be fair, they're a pretty obscure clan to begin with since they were wiped out a long time ago.

The clan wasn't obscure since they were feared. Their country still existed when Kushina was a kid. So it wasn't that long ago.

But my point was that many people seem to knew who the Fourth Hokage's wife was. As even A knew.
 
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i still call bullshit. anybody who ever even once saw minato would instantly come to the conclusion that naruto was his son. the village did know kushina was pregnant. it's not like they kept her locked in a tower, she walked the streets and everything. minato and naruto are literally the only blonde people in all of konaha and the look just alike.
 

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i still call bullshit. anybody who ever even once saw minato would instantly come to the conclusion that naruto was his son. the village did know kushina was pregnant. it's not like they kept her locked in a tower, she walked the streets and everything. minato and naruto are literally the only blonde people in all of konaha and the look just alike.

And his last name is is the same as Kushina.
 

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i still call bullshit. anybody who ever even once saw minato would instantly come to the conclusion that naruto was his son. the village did know kushina was pregnant. it's not like they kept her locked in a tower, she walked the streets and everything. minato and naruto are literally the only blonde people in all of konaha and the look just alike.

Ino and her clan folks are blonde.........
 

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The clan wasn't obscure since they were feared. Their country still existed when Kushina was a kid. So it wasn't that long ago.

But my point was that many people seem to knew who the Fourth Hokage's wife was. As even A knew.

They were feared in their day and wiped out but they're obscure because few people know about them.

I vaguely recall Minato and Kushina's marriage being a secret. A could have found out about Naruto after his birth, though he probably knew about them before seeing as he was Minato's rival and went after Kushina at least once, plus he's a Kage so who know what kind of info he could get his hands on?
 

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It was to protect Naruto from Minato's enemies,if he had his father's last name then his life would've been in danger.
 

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Uzumaki Naruto, because Uzumaki is a clan and Minato is not from a clan.
Not giving him his father last name has nothing to do with protecting him from his father enemies.
 
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Is it just me or did everyone seem to already know anyway?

Ay seemed to know, killer bee too, Sai wasn't shocked at all as if he already knew.
 

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Is it just me or did everyone seem to already know anyway?

Ay seemed to know, killer bee too, Sai wasn't shocked at all as if he already knew.

It's not hard to connect the dots,my guess is everyone was told to be quiet.
 

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Uh, YES. If someone sends a hitman to kill your loved ones, you wouldn't hold the guy who hired him to be responsible?



*He's related to him. So that means he will be as good as he was*

there's a difference between waging an war on a hokage and thus the village or wanting to kill one guy.
 
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