[Discussion] Does Akainu really have to die?

[SSS12]

Everyone pretty much assumes that Akainu will be killed by Dragon/Luffy/Sabo/Garp at EoS. I wonder why though?

How is he any different from any other marine including Garp at MF? The whole point was to execute Ace in the first place, and every single marine, including Garp, agreed to it. It's because the executioners were prevented from doing their job that Akainu took matters into his own hands. He only did his job. Nothing more, nothing less. Although Garp later changed his mind, Garp too was a part of the group who were executing Ace, just as much as Akainu (and had the initial attempt been successful, without Mr. 0's intervention, Garp would have been just as much to blame).

Remember both Kizaru and Aokiji tried to finish off a dying Luffy while Law was getting him away.

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Aren't they just as 'bad'?

Could it be that maybe Akainu will change sides or atleast acknowledge his mistakes and that of the WG at the end? Or does he have to die to redeem himself?

 

[Fireplay]

Akainu doesn't need to die but you best believe he's the worst of the bunch. Aokiji and everyone else are simply doing their jobs whereas Akainu is unnecessary cruel and follows the moral of absolute justice.

For example, he killed a marine because the marine was too scared to go to the war because he had a family and he was also trying to kill Coby for pleading that the war needs to end but Shanks came in and saved him. Coby is a damn kid.

So yes, Akainu is different from everyone else. They're all just doing their jobs whereas Akainu is being an *sshole. Compare him to someone like Smoker. Smoker is like a good cop and Akainu is a bad cop.

I don't hate Akainu. I actually like him but theres no denying the fact that he's rotten to the core.

 

[NarutoWA]

Everyone had a duty to chase Luffy, who, by Govt. norms, was a big villian. So, in this criteria, both "Akainu" and "Kuzan" are not bad.

But, Akainu is very strict and it seems that he does not care so much for well being of navy soldiers as he cares for his " Justice".
He just kill pirates not for any humanity or thoughts, but for the "sense of justice". This kind of people are mere toys of govt. Thay don't have their own beliefs. They do whatever others ask them to do, without analyzing situations of their own. A person who is protector of People is not suited to have these beliefs. He agrees on leaving Shichibukais, who he knows are worse. These(Akainu type) people need to be killed for Plot's sake.
So, Akainu should die.

But, in case, Akainu changes and realizes what is good for people that he is given responsibility to "protect", he will live.

 

[SharinganisOP]

Akainu is different. Let's say that Akainu is a radical who will break marine rules to accomplish the goals of the marines and the world government. His personality makes me feel like he thinks he is the judge, jury, and executioner. He has 0 compassion and understanding for people who think differently.

Aokiji on the other hand sees the things that the world government does wrong. There are things wrong with it and he aspired to change the things he viewed to be wrong. He would follow orders, but if he finds something wrong he bends the rules a little. I would say he has a decent amount of morality and compassion.

Kizaru feels more neutral. He seems to be completely obedient to the higher ups and doesn't bend or break the rules. He follows them, an obedient soldier. A go with the flow kind of guy.

That being said akainu needs to die for various reasons, all leading back to his personality leads to death and destruction of people who could change the world for the better.

 

[SSS12]

Akainu doesn't need to die but you best believe he's the worst of the bunch. Aokiji and everyone else are simply doing their jobs whereas Akainu is unnecessary cruel and follows the moral of absolute justice.

For example, he killed a marine because the marine was too scared to go to the war because he had a family and he was also trying to kill Coby for pleading that the war needs to end but Shanks came in and saved him. Coby is a damn kid.

So yes, Akainu is different from everyone else. They're all just doing their jobs whereas Akainu is being an *sshole. Compare him to someone like Smoker. Smoker is like a good cop and Akainu is a bad cop.

I don't hate Akainu. I actually like him but theres no denying the fact that he's rotten to the core.

More like Akainu is a strict cop. He executed cowardly marines who who were to afraid to do their duty (doesn't alomost everyone have a family?). He isn't rotten, he just follows WG orders and looks out for them unquestionably. He went after pirates who were already (or potentially in the future) great threats like WB pirates and Luffy and Ace. He is a little extreme, but it's not like he goes around killing without provocation.

Isn't Hancock much worse then, since she hurts (and maybe even kills) both allies and enemies for no reason by turning them into stone and shattering them?

Everyone had a duty to chase Luffy, who, by Govt. norms, was a big villian. So, in this criteria, both "Akainu" and "Kuzan" are not bad.

But, Akainu is very strict and it seems that he does not care so much for well being of navy soldiers as he cares for his " Justice".
He just kill pirates not for any humanity or thoughts, but for the "sense of justice". This kind of people are mere toys of govt. Thay don't have their own beliefs. They do whatever others ask them to do, without analyzing situations of their own. A person who is protector of People is not suited to have these beliefs. He agrees on leaving Shichibukais, who he knows are worse. These(Akainu type) people need to be killed for Plot's sake.
So, Akainu should die.

But, in case, Akainu changes and realizes what is good for people that he is given responsibility to "protect", he will live.

That's what makes Akainu the perfect soldier. He carries out his orders and eliminates threats to WG without question. As far as he's concerned, he's doing the right thing as he thinks WG is righteous.

Akainu is different. Let's say that Akainu is a radical who will break marine rules to accomplish the goals of the marines and the world government. His personality makes me feel like he thinks he is the judge, jury, and executioner. He has 0 compassion and understanding for people who think differently.

Aokiji on the other hand sees the things that the world government does wrong. There are things wrong with it and he aspired to change the things he viewed to be wrong. He would follow orders, but if he finds something wrong he bends the rules a little. I would say he has a decent amount of morality and compassion.

Kizaru feels more neutral. He seems to be completely obedient to the higher ups and doesn't bend or break the rules. He follows them, an obedient soldier. A go with the flow kind of guy.

That being said akainu needs to die for various reasons, all leading back to his personality leads to death and destruction of people who could change the world for the better.

Akainu does have some compassion. He didn't finish off Aokiji during their battle for FA despite there being obvious differences between them. And what makes you think Akainu breaks marine rules?

 

[Fireplay]

More like Akainu is a strict cop. He executed cowardly marines who who were to afraid to do their duty (doesn't alomost everyone have a family?). He isn't rotten, he just follows WG orders and looks out for them unquestionably. He went after pirates who were already (or potentially in the future) great threats like WB pirates and Luffy and Ace. He is a little extreme, but it's not like he goes around killing without provocation.

The fact that Akainu goes as far as to kill a marine that doesn't have the guts to fight goes to say what kind of a person he is. He is no strict cop. He is the a hole of the bunch.

So let me get this straight...killing a teenager because he stated that the war needs to end is okay to you?

The WG never told Akainu to kill a crying teenager who is on the same side as him. The fact that a pirate had to step in to protect a marine from another marine is already enough reason to make Akainu different from everyone else.

Isn't Hancock much worse then, since she hurts (and maybe even kills) both allies and enemies for no reason by turning them into stone and shattering them?

Why are you talking about Hancock? She's a pirate not to mention we aren't even discussing Hancock. You clearly stated in the original post that Akainu isn't any different from any of the marines and that everyone is just as "bad" as Akainu.

Name one marine that kills a teenager who is on the same side as him just because the kid said that the war should end?

Yes, Akainu is different in a bad way.

 

[Hori]

I will forever hate that bastard... he killed a Marine because he was scared. I mean he should be scared since he does not have superhuman strength like he does. And is intangible like him who is a logia. Besides he killed innocent Oharians... That are one of the things I hate about him.

 

[JStar King]

His death was long overdue since that douchebag killed Ace. Garp, Luffy, or Sabo need to take him out.

 

[Zorø]

Akainu certainly needs to die he is a douchebag he is filth he is scum....I dont care if hes just doing his job.....I hope Luffy or Sabo rapes his ass and sends him to hell so that Satan can rape his magma ass aswell.

 

[Peace Maker]

he needs to die to luffy's hand. thats it nothing more nothing less.

 

[NarutoWA]

That's what makes Akainu the perfect soldier. He carries out his orders and eliminates threats to WG without question. As far as he's concerned, he's doing the right thing as he thinks WG is righteous.

Being in marine does not signify that one should be a dog of the government. The meaning of a marine head is to provide security to people. Killing a marine who does not want to fight, or who raises voice against such illogical explaination of fighting ( who opposes his ideals) , just for the sake of "his own belief" is not a good quality for the head of marine.

Do you really think he cares about his weak comrades?

He is not a soldier(*ignores the Perfect part*), rather, he is a weapon who is used by Government.

 

[sravan]

yes he should be killed and kuzan should overtake navy after the final battle.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Nope, he doesn't have to die. People seem to have plans built up in their heads of how One Piece will be in the final war, people also had plans about how Dressrosa would go and ridiculed one guy for saying Sabo would show up...my point being there is no way we know, no matter how reasonable it sounds, how the final war will go.

Sakazuki seems to be missing this thing called...morals. He is a bad guy. 'He was only doing his job' ye well, so were the majority of the Nazis so...go ahead and defend them.

 

[JackelLord]

Akainu deserves the most grotesque and Goriest Anime/Manga Death EVER!!!! :devil:

 

[Fireplay]

Akainu deserves the most grotesque and Goriest Anime Death EVER!!!! :devil:

Lmao, we all know what fanbase says this about Akainu Lol

 

[Gintõki1]

I don't really care. I trust Oda that he will make the end of OP ****in awesome.

 

[Red Swag]

akainu is a G. dont want him to die.

 

[SSS12]

The fact that Akainu goes as far as to kill a marine that doesn't have the guts to fight goes to say what kind of a person he is. He is no strict cop. He is the a hole of the bunch.

So let me get this straight...killing a teenager because he stated that the war needs to end is okay to you?

The WG never told Akainu to kill a crying teenager who is on the same side as him. The fact that a pirate had to step in to protect a marine from another marine is already enough reason to make Akainu different from everyone else.

Why are you talking about Hancock? She's a pirate not to mention we aren't even discussing Hancock. You clearly stated in the original post that Akainu isn't any different from any of the marines and that everyone is just as "bad" as Akainu.

Name one marine that kills a teenager who is on the same side as him just because the kid said that the war should end?

Yes, Akainu is different in a bad way.

When Akainu destroyed the civilian ship from Ohara to ensure no scholar survived, he was was carrying out the orders thoroughly. The WG must have certainly heard about it from Kuzan and the others. They didn't think it was 'bad'. It doesn't matter what I think. And Akainu probably has the authority to execute batrayers or disloyal marines, being an admiral. He is very harsh and strict though.

I never said Hancock is a marine. I was merely pointing out that Hancock kills/injures pointlessly and without even the slightest provocation.

And even though Akainu has killed many people without much reason, it still doesn't mean he must die. Roger mercilessly killed Squard's crew because Squard insulted him. Yet, Roger is hailed as a hero. Kid has killed many civilians, so has Crocodile. He must die too, right? Pretty much everyone who's a strong pirate and even marines must have killed at some point. Kuzan killed Jaguar D Saul too. But the characters can still redeem themselves. It's not as simple as because he killed someone good, he must die.

I will forever hate that bastard... he killed a Marine because he was scared. I mean he should be scared since he does not have superhuman strength like he does. And is intangible like him who is a logia. Besides he killed innocent Oharians... That are one of the things I hate about him.

Both Akainu and BB are meant to be hated. But again, Akainu is just looking out for the best interest of the marines.

His death was long overdue since that douchebag killed Ace. Garp, Luffy, or Sabo need to take him out.

You do realize that Sengoku, Kuzan, Kizaru, Smoker and even Garp for the most part helped in the killing of Ace? That is just as bad. And if the marines had their way, Ace would have been executed properly at the platform and no marine would have directly had their hands bloodied. But that wouldn't have meant that they weren't responsible for Ace's death.

Akainu certainly needs to die he is a douchebag he is filth he is scum....I dont care if hes just doing his job.....I hope Luffy or Sabo rapes his ass and sends him to hell so that Satan can rape his magma ass aswell.

he needs to die to luffy's hand. thats it nothing more nothing less.

Being in marine does not signify that one should be a dog of the government. The meaning of a marine head is to provide security to people. Killing a marine who does not want to fight, or who raises voice against such illogical explaination of fighting ( who opposes his ideals) , just for the sake of "his own belief" is not a good quality for the head of marine.

Do you really think he cares about his weak comrades?

He is not a soldier(*ignores the Perfect part*), rather, he is a weapon who is used by Government.

yes he should be killed and kuzan should overtake navy after the final battle.

Love the Akainu hate.

Nope, he doesn't have to die. People seem to have plans built up in their heads of how One Piece will be in the final war, people also had plans about how Dressrosa would go and ridiculed one guy for saying Sabo would show up...my point being there is no way we know, no matter how reasonable it sounds, how the final war will go.

Sakazuki seems to be missing this thing called...morals. He is a bad guy. 'He was only doing his job' ye well, so were the majority of the Nazis so...go ahead and defend them.

Did you just compare a manga character to real life Nazis? Wow.

Kuzan killed Jaguar D Saul while he was attempting to save a little girl. Kuzan should also be killed.

Akainu deserves the most grotesque and Goriest Anime/Manga Death EVER!!!! :devil:

Lmao, we all know what fanbase says this about Akainu Lol

I think it would be fair to ay Akainu is more hated than BB...

I don't really care. I trust Oda that he will make the end of OP ****in awesome.

akainu is a G. dont want him to die.

That's the spirit.