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Wrong section. No he can't.fixed

@bold Really? What I saw was a stompfest against madara.

Why do you think he wanted to get his rinnegan? Because he would have been owned without it. Yea he let himself get cut but it's not like he could have done anything about it anyway...He wasn't fast enough to react.

You don't understand that this is 1 vs 1, One eyed rinnegan madara jubi jin with one limbo clone and black balls against one eyed rikudo sasuke.

It was a stompfest, because guy hurt madara badly and after that a lava rasen shurikan clashed with madara and after that naruto and sasuke took on madara together, NARUTO sealed the limbo clone.

Sasuke is fast, but he couldn't even damage madara like guy did.
He won't win alone against 1 eyed rinnegan madara jubi jin.
2 eyed rinnegan madara with 5 limbo clones would stomp sasuke if he fights alone.
 

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You don't understand that this is 1 vs 1, One eyed rinnegan madara jubi jin with one limbo clone and black balls against one eyed rikudo sasuke.

It was a stompfest, because guy hurt madara badly and after that a lava rasen shurikan clashed with madara and after that naruto and sasuke took on madara together, NARUTO sealed the limbo clone.

Sasuke is fast, but he couldn't even damage madara like guy did.
He won't win alone against 1 eyed rinnegan madara jubi jin.
2 eyed rinnegan madara with 5 limbo clones would stomp sasuke if he fights alone.
That's because the battle was too quick Lol. Again, sasuke's PS tanks any black balls and limbo damage while cuts down madara with his rinne tech. The only reason madara escaped was because of limbo. Madara only has one limbo which sasuke can see btw so if he can wait till limbo separates from his body to take care of that, he takes out the real madara same way he did when he bisected him. Dual rinnegan jj madara would beat sasuke there's no denying that.

Since when was sasuke's PS amplified with Senjustu? Gudo dama tanks it.
Since he acquired the sage's chakra. 50% of it to be exact. Can you explain why sasuke's current PS is stronger than ems madara's PS? Obviously due to rikudou's chakra. Lel gudo dama isn't tanking that PS.

Yeah, but he has both rinnegan here.



I advise you re-read the manga if you truly believe that madara can't react to sasuke's tech.
Umm he can't. Did you not see the sword go through madara? Lol.
 

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That's because the battle was too quick Lol. Again, sasuke's PS tanks any black balls and limbo damage while cuts down madara with his rinne tech. The only reason madara escaped was because of limbo. Madara only has one limbo which sasuke can see btw so if he can wait till limbo separates from his body to take care of that, he takes out the real madara same way he did when he bisected him. Dual rinnegan jj madara would beat sasuke there's no denying that.
You forget that madara in jj mode can tank everything sasuke has, even only with one rinnegan, it doesn't matter whether he's cut in half or ripped apart.
Sasuke can see the limbo clone, but madara is very fast too, if sasuke teleports to him and pierce him he would heal the damage, or switches with his limbo clone and attacks directly with his staff.
Amateraus wont do any damage, madara would absorb it
Ps can be destroyed with black balls shots, maybe not with just 1, but madara has more of them and they causes big destructions.
BTW madara has also rinbo hengoku, which owned all bijus at once, PS will be broken after a hit.
Don't forget sasukes technique has a cool down.
Madara can fly, should he be cut in half his upper body just can fly out of the limited range sasukes jutsu has and heal completely.
Madara don't need 2 eyes to preform wood style, so wood dragons of madara will absorb sasukes PS or damage it at least.
His sharp raiton jutsus also can cut sasukes susanno
and what about wood style bun shins of madara ? why wouldn't he use them to make it more difficult to hit the real body ?

If madara wouldn't have his great regeneration feats, sasuke would beat 1 eyed rinnegan madara, but he has and sasuke will be outlast.
 
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You forget that madara in jj mode can tank everything sasuke has, even only with one rinnegan, it doesn't matter whether he's cut in half or ripped apart.
You cannot be serious. How long did madara take to grow his other half after being cut? Almost a whole freaking chapter mate. While he was talking to obito, he was still half a body. Sasuke is going to take him to town with such slow regen...
Sasuke can see the limbo clone, but madara is very fast too, if sasuke teleports to him and pierce him he would heal the damage, or switches with his limbo clone and attacks directly with his staff.
Remember when naruto dodged limbo then hit mads with yfrs? Sasuke will do the same and hit him with chidori, except this time madara won't be running like he did with naruto but sasuke will use his rine tech so it won't matter. If madara didn't attack sasuke with his when sasuke RAN to him, what makes you think madara is fast enough to do the same when sasuke teleports to him?
Amateraus wont do any damage, madara would absorb it
Ok
Ps can be destroyed with black balls shots, maybe not with just 1, but madara has more of them and they causes big destructions.
BTW madara has also rinbo hengoku, which owned all bijus at once, PS will be broken after a hit.
No it can't. Something that naruto kicked away in base rikudou sage mode will be swatted by PS. OMG sasuke's PS is far stronger than bijuu Lol. It cut through meteors that dwarfed mountain ranges and you're saying limbo can take it out because it took out bijuu? NO
Don't forget sasukes technique has a cool down.
He'll only need to use it once or twice anyway.
Madara can fly, should he be cut in half his upper body just can fly out of the limited range sasukes jutsu has and heal completely.
Umm sasuke's susanoo can fly, and fast.
Madara don't need 2 eyes to preform wood style, so wood dragons of madara will absorb sasukes PS or damage it at least.
No they will be shredded. I'll say it again. Sasuke's PS tore through meteors that dwarfed mountains I think it can cut through mokuton, that's smaller, really easily. Rock is harder than wood after all.
His sharp raiton jutsus also can cut sasukes susanno
How fragile do you think sasuke's PS is? No it can't.
and what about wood style bun shins of madara ? why wouldn't he use them to make it more difficult to hit the real body ?
They will be swatted by PS.

If madara wouldn't have his great regeneration feats, sasuke would beat 1 eyed rinnegan madara, but he has and sasuke will be outlast.
He is regenerating fast enough to avoid multiple attacks by sasuke. Just think what would have happened if he didn't use kamui.

You are severely underestimating sasuke's PS.
Just take a look at the size of the debris in the 2nd panel if you're reading right to left. Underneath the debris are mountains which are way smaller in size.
 

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Once again, unless proven wrong Maddie is featless. I could add fanifc abilities to Sasuke's rinnegan if needed too. But he can pull it of without me BS-ing.
Madara is far from featless, he has one of the largest movepools in the manga. Sasuke cannot beat Madara no matter how you look at it, unless you can tell us how he does beat him.
 

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Madara is far from featless, he has one of the largest movepools in the manga. Sasuke cannot beat Madara no matter how you look at it, unless you can tell us how he does beat him.
The last time I've read it, his movepools didn't save him from being cut in half and completely fodderized in 1 shot. And I've seen nothing worth my time reading from 2 rinne jubi jin Maddie except for IT. I'm pretty sure that everyone accepts deep down that a main char is stronger than a villain who isn't the main one. Both Naruto and Sasuke can defeat jubi jin Maddie individually. However, as noted when Kaguya appeared, she's on a whole different level than him. She can only be defeated by the 2 together. Maybe even more help needed against her.
 

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The last time I've read it, his movepools didn't save him from being cut in half and completely fodderized in 1 shot. And I've seen nothing worth my time reading from 2 rinne jubi jin Maddie except for IT. I'm pretty sure that everyone accepts deep down that a main char is stronger than a villain who isn't the main one. Both Naruto and Sasuke can defeat jubi jin Maddie individually. However, as noted when Kaguya appeared, she's on a whole different level than him. She can only be defeated by the 2 together. Maybe even more help needed against her.
You have not read in a long time my friend. Limbo is the easiest counter I could possibly think of, though there are more. And no, basically no one accepts that, as you can tell by this thread. Neither Naruto nor Sasuke can defeat Madara individually.

What was noted when she first appeared was that her charka levels where "On a whole different level", that by no means means that she is on a whole other level, as having more chakra does not always make you stronger in the verse. Both Naruto and Sasuke need to work together to beat a Madara (With IT restricted), if IT is not restricted, they would loose fairly quickly.
 

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You have not read in a long time my friend. Limbo is the easiest counter I could possibly think of, though there are more. And no, basically no one accepts that, as you can tell by this thread. Neither Naruto nor Sasuke can defeat Madara individually.

What was noted when she first appeared was that her charka levels where "On a whole different level", that by no means means that she is on a whole other level, as having more chakra does not always make you stronger in the verse. Both Naruto and Sasuke need to work together to beat a Madara (With IT restricted), if IT is not restricted, they would loose fairly quickly.
There are people who think Sasuke can do it, there are people who think he can't. Trying to prove me that he can't is absolutely unnecessary as you will fail, just as I'd fail trying to prove you otherwise. If there is one thing I learned in my short time here, that is: common sense is pointless when it comes to Maddie. As proven, Sasuke can damage limbo clones. He can counter meteorites with his PS and Maddie is far behind when it comes to speed. So I won't bother on dragging this on. You can stay with your beliefs, I'll stay with mine.
 
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There are people who think Sasuke can do it, there are people who think he can't. Trying to prove me that he can't is absolutely unnecessary as you will fail, just as I'd fail trying to prove you otherwise. If there is one thing I learned in my short time here, that is: common sense is pointless when it comes to Maddie. As proven, Sasuke can damage limbo clones. He can counter meteorites with his PS and Maddie is far behind when it comes to speed. So I won't bother on dragging this on. You can stay with your beliefs, I'll stay with mine.
yet sasuke isnt faster
 

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There are people who think Sasuke can do it, there are people who think he can't. Trying to prove me that he can't is absolutely unnecessary as you will fail, just as I'd fail trying to prove you otherwise. If there is one thing I learned in my short time here, that is: common sense is pointless when it comes to Maddie. As proven, Sasuke can damage limbo clones. He can counter meteorites with his PS and Maddie is far behind when it comes to speed. So I won't bother on dragging this on. You can stay with your beliefs, I'll stay with mine.
The vast majority agree that Madara would kick his ass alone. He can damage Limbo clones but he can't permanently get rid of them, Madara has plenty more in his arsenal then just Limbo Clones and Meteorites, although Limbo clones is all that would be needed.
 
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The vast majority agree that Madara would kick his ass alone. He can damage Limbo clones but he can't permanently get rid of them, Madara has plenty more in his arsenal then just Limbo Clones and Meteorites, although Limbo clones is all that would be needed.
not to mention is 6 tsb's
 

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Nobody can defeat madara except kaguya, Hashoromo, but saske gets gangstah bounced like a non boss.Madaras techniques compared to saske ones makes him a big coward XD Madara>saske any day very low diff.
 
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