Chapter clarification: Kakashi copied the Susanoo

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I've seen many people arguing all over the place on this matter, but unfortunately had no time so far to explain my view on the matter. Either way what i'm going to say first is that those who think Kakashi didn't copy Perfect Susanoo(or rather the mechanism of the jutsu) didn't understand the chapter one bit

Sharingan

What's Sharingan? I'll leave some part of the databook explanation of the dojutsu

Databook 1: Sharingan:
...The Sharingan's true power, in addition to the threat posed by its insight... is its copying ability, that of making one's own any technique one sets eyes upon. Chakra, handseals... all the principles bringing the jutsu into existence will be recorded into the caster's memory in the blink of an eye, making its utilization possible. Of course, the necessary *volume of chakra and physical ability requirements must be met, but should one find themselves in some kind of dire situation. the Uchiha blood will demonstrate its accumulated experience, and never will those who have inherited it know any limits



@Bold Sharingan is an ability allowing to understand the workings of any jutsu
@Underline to use the jutsu yourself however, physical ability and chakra requirements must be met

The underline part is the reason why Sharingan users can't copy and reproduce kekkei genkei jutsus for example, because they lack the special DNA allowing the production of such jutsus

Example

Madara fought Hashirama day and night, but never showed glimpse of being capable to use Mokuton techniques back in the day, simply because he lacked Hashirama's DNA and Mokuton is a kekkei genkei.

... However from the moment Madara took his DNA for himself, notice he was capable to reproduce practically all his jutsus with similar scale simply because the Sharingan already analysed and registered the workings of the jutsu back in the day

Now coming to the main point

Chapter clarification

1- When Obito gave his Sharingan(or rather say chakra source), he told Kakashi to remember his nickname

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"Kakashi of the Sharingan" or "Copy ninja Kakashi"

2- At the same moment Kakashi showed both MS, Sasuke's Perfect Susanoo was activated

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3- When Naruto and Sasuke see Kakashi's Susanoo, first thing Naruto says is

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"Well that's why he is called the copy ninja" implying Kakashi copied Sasuke's Susanoo(or rather the workings)

And Sasuke replies

"But he shouldn't even have his Sharingan anymore" implying but he should lack the dojutsu required for the copy

1+2+3 imply clearly that Kakashi copied the workings of that jutsu. It was the real purpose of the chapter

Now, like Sasuke said you need a double MS to actually activate Susanoo.

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Without it, Kakashi would have never managed, but now that Kakashi has a double MS, it acts as the kekkei genkei(MS) triggering the activation of the jutsu after already memorizing the workings of said jutsu. Like the description inside the Sharingan databook says as well, the chakra requirements must be met, but don't forget Obito shared his chakra to Kakashi and we all know Obito is a chakra beast

All what needed to be done for Kakashi was to stabilize it, what he showed no difficulties to do :cool:

It's basically how this chapter needed to be read

Hope you enjoyed reading U_U
 

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Why couldn't you wait till Wednesday till it was confirmed if he copied it or not bro.
 

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I don't know why this thread was necessary. He basically copied how to manifest a Susanoo, but actually making it his, instead of just the same old one. People should already realize this lol

The main thing people are arguing about, is why he has PS and that it's an asspull.
 

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obitos eyes awoke it, kakashi copied how to stabalize it imo.
 

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Good effort Op. Just wish it was done on a different subject.
 

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T bogard be making amazing clarifications as always, nice one my friend :)

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This again?It's obvious Kakashi's PS wasn't copied.
 

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This again?It's obvious Kakashi's PS wasn't copied.

I don't know why this thread was necessary. He basically copied how to manifest a Susanoo, but actually making it his, instead of just the same old one. People should already realize this lol

The main thing people are arguing about, is why he has PS and that it's an asspull.

why is there people like this that say things among those lines anytime someone makes a theory similar to this?

if you already knew this, then pat yourself on the back for however long as you want this is for the people who aren't as aware as you two
 

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By far the best explanation I've seen for the situation. I'll wait for Kishi to explain though. Anyway good job OP.
 

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Genuis Thread.If people try to deny it now then that would be because they're more comftorbale bashing Kishimoto and calling everything an asspull.

Even if you are wrong and Kakashi didn't copy.Everything you said about how he could of is correct.
 

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Still wondering why Obito couldn't do it and Kakashi did it in one second.
 

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Kishi just doesn't make sense anymore. Didnt madara put up susanoo with no eyes? This suggest you need to have uchiha blood not eye's
Idk I just don't know anymore, kishi failed.
 

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Kishi just doesn't make sense anymore. Didnt madara put up susanoo with no eyes? This suggest you need to have uchiha blood not eye's
Idk I just don't know anymore, kishi failed.
 

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Oh than why is it that you don't think it makes sense?

Because if Kakashi copied Sasuke's PS then it wouldn't have that scar and head band looking thing.That's why I think his PS is original.
 

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why is there people like this that say things among those lines anytime someone makes a theory similar to this?

if you already knew this, then pat yourself on the back for however long as you want this is for the people who aren't as aware as you two

It's not a theory, it's a clarification. That's like making a clarification that Naruto uses Kurama chakra. You deserve some award for achieving that level of ignorance/stupidity.

*pats myself on the back*
 

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Kishi just doesn't make sense anymore. Didnt madara put up susanoo with no eyes? This suggest you need to have uchiha blood not eye's
Idk I just don't know anymore, kishi failed.

He still had the eyes. It just wasn't activated.

Still wondering why Obito couldn't do it and Kakashi did it in one second.

Simple. Obito doesn't have Kakashi. One cannot have it without the other.
 
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