Team 7 takes the gauntlet

[Team7monaa]

Team 7 Takes It All!

 

[TRE MERCER]

They clear. stage 10 will be to much.

 

[KidGamer65]

1. Bee, Ay, and the Sandaime Raikage

Team 7 wins mid diff.

2. Rinnegan Obito( Bijuu and Gedo Mazo restricted)

Team 7 stomps.

3. Alive Minato and Tobirama

Team 7 mid diff.

4. Nagato

Team 7 mid diff.

5. Sasori, Kisame, Deidara, Kakuzu, and Hidan

Team 7 low diff.

6. Healthy Itachi and DSM Kabuto(Mugen Onsa and ET restricted)

Team 7 stomps.

7. EMS Madara(Can use up to legged V4)

Team 7 wins mid-high diff.

8. Base Hashirama

Team 7 wins mid-high diff.

9.10,000 White Zetsu

Team 7 stomps. Naruto and Sasuke's AoE moves destroy them.

10. Gokage+ Mū, Danzo, Hiruzen, Orochimaru(ET restricted) and Jiraiya(unlimited SM).

Team 7 dies.

 

[VongolaX]

Obito will have to Kamui Naruto to win either way.

Lol, no not really he didn't do that the first time they fought

Nope. He simply saw Naruto making the clones (Naruto did not have any attempt at concealing the real one).

He didn't see it in the last fight, Gai was fighting him until naruto came out with a mini ttb.

He said "I know this one is fake, so the reall one is here," and that's when he wrapped the Gunbai around the real one.

Obito's level of Mokuton really is not that impressive, I doubt he would do much damage with it.

He was able to kill mist shinobi's with, creating a blood bath.

That is way impressive, in the war he just used it to hold naruto in place like Madara did Hachibi.

But Naruto broke both if them, showing the suppressing mokuton doesn't work to well.

So, Obito would use the wood cutter or underground roots to tear him up like he did those anbu's.

That's one.

Example

That's not that impressive tbh.

Uhm yes it is 0_o

It means that if Obito strikes Naruto with his hand, he will impale him.

He would die from a hole in his chest...

When was that?

First time team Taka fought killerbee

Not really, he went balls deep in the final battle against Obito.

By himself?

No, he had people protecting him the whole time.

lol what? BM Narito has knocked away Bijudamas before, the stakes could have been knocked away just as easily, or simply dodged.

Those stakes bind on contact, he told bee to cover him.

Soooo no

In the end, all Hachibi did in that fight was get immobilized by some rods.

Do you know what that's called?

Being one-shoted by Obito, that's why he didn't seem as big of a help.

Exactly the same that would happened to Naruto if bee or Kakashi didn't cover him.

I don't see how Hachibi could have been of much help anyways, his attacks are destructive and that would hurt his teammates more then Obito.

I hope you're joking because the same can be said about naruto's bijuu transformation.

If not for bee, they wouldn't of been able to delay the juubi from eradicating them.

Who? Hachibi? I am pretty sure that was after getting hit by his own Bijudama. Some 20 chapters after the Obito fight.

I fail to see how all this refutes the fact that Hachibi did nothing to contribute against Obito.

Up against the juubi?

Ya it was pointless, because even naruto was going to die from a wood cutter that Obito used out of the juubi.

Which lead to Neji's death...

Too many times Hachibi was shielding Naruto, because in the beginning of the fight Obito nearly koed kcm naruto if not for Gai and Kakashi.

From my stand point, I thought that they where constantly attacking Obito in an attempt to hit him until Kakashi came up with a strategy. Naruto never really used his clones efficiently, for the sake of the plot.

Plots not an excuse, especially when dividing your chakra is pointless against a man who bat his fan around taking out two clones.

If you want to use plot as an excuse, Obito could of sprayed mokuton all lover the field to damage anyone around him.

Sharingan reads movements, shadow clones would be pointless.

A Shunshin? What they are meant to do.

What is shuushin going to do when its warped in other dimensions?

Or Obito Kamuing Naruto. Once he Kamui's what he thinks was the original one (But in reality was a clone) he proceeds to attack the others, and the second he phases, the clone destroys whatever body part comes his way.

That's unrealistic, especially when he feel that Obito must warp naruto.

He already faced naruto coming at him with clones, and he made it a priority to find the real body and beat the clones.

You can't base this off what you THINK his premonitions are because canonily he would run straight through the clones and attack the real body.

Obito doesn't warp clones, he never fell for it...

He figured out where the real naruto was, so this senerio here is just futile.

Obito used Genjutsu on Fuu and Torune, Genjutsu does not work on clones. Furthermore, if Kurama is in a good mood, he will snap him out of it, assuming Obito actually gets the real one.

Lol what?

Okay first I want to point out that I was suggesting that Naruto would end up in a completely different dimension.

When Obito warped Fuu and Torune, they were nowhere to be found when Sasuke and Karin were in Obito's original dimension.


They were sent to a completely different dimension that time, Obito warped four people that day.

Only Sasuke and Karin where in the original dimension where Obito phases.

Moving on, Obito already saw through naruto clone so this is a pointless senserio's once again, however you relying on chance for kyuubi to break naruto iut of a genjustu?

If he feels like?

Well I'll tell you now he won't do anything if you trust an overgrown beasts feelings.

Especially when he let him get swallowed up by another beast.

So genjustu would be GG for naruto...

Also a man who put a perfect jinchuuriki in his place, Naruto would have no countr for his genjustu at all.

Nagato tried that, it took him quiet a long time. Obito is not doing it any better.

Obito tried that on JJ Madara, and at no chakra he pulled out a good amount of piece from two bijuus to keep naruto alive.

Obito obviously would do it better, human path a juubi jinchuuriki doesn't get any better than that.

You also forget that Madara who taught Obito the six paths, taught Nagato himself.

Chapter 606 page 14-15 and chapter 607 page 1-6

Yes, they are restricted, so they can't be used in this fight.

Ya I see that now, so my bad

That team was composed of a bunch of fodders at the time.

Konoha 11 are a bunch of fodders?

Even Yamato?

Ya okay, that was the team that killed Kakazu and Hidan.

I count one body. Obito. Unless you are talking about the other members of the gauntlet. In which case my response would be that they get fully healed after each battle.

Ya, now I know there is one body...

But what good is fighting a man who has

•Kamui

•mokuton

•Huge juubi size Katon

•Six path Justus

•Yin yang tech like the rikudou rod/staff

•uchiha kinjustus like uchiha flame formation or Return of the uchihas.

They can't beat that with intent to kill

 

[Killua Zoldyck]

Lol, no not really he didn't do that the first time they fought

In the War he did, that's all that matters as before, he had the intention of pitting Naruto against Sasuke. And Naruto was always supported by comrades.

He didn't see it in the last fight, Gai was fighting him until naruto came out with a mini ttb.

He said "I know this one is fake, so the reall one is here," and that's when he wrapped the Gunbai around the real one.

Wrong. He clearly

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him making a clone.

He was able to kill mist shinobi's with, creating a blood bath.

That is way impressive, in the war he just used it to hold naruto in place like Madara did Hachibi.

But Naruto broke both if them, showing the suppressing mokuton doesn't work to well.

So, Obito would use the wood cutter or underground roots to tear him up like he did those anbu's.

Against the Mist fodder, his Mokuton was enhanced by Spiral Zetsu. Furthermore, that Mokuton gets dodged or nuked with FRS.

Uhm yes it is 0_o

It means that if Obito strikes Naruto with his hand, he will impale him. [/FONT]

He would die from a hole in his chest...

No, Obito's strength is not good enough to go through Naruto, especially not KCM Naruto.

First time team Taka fought killerbee

Yeah but at which point, show me a panel of him doing it.

By himself?

No, he had people protecting him the whole time.

He had no one protecting him, he was charging Obito alone for most of the battle. And then Gai charged Obito alone for a little bit. Kakashi stayed back and analyzed for the majority of the battle.

Those stakes bind on contact, he told bee to cover him.

Soooo no

The binding stakes had already pierced Bee earlier. He told Bee to cover him while he charged up a Bijudama

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. Which he only used for the sake of Kakashi's plan.

Do you know what that's called?

Being one-shoted by Obito, that's why he didn't seem as big of a help. [/FONT]

Exactly the same that would happened to Naruto if bee or Kakashi didn't cover him.

No, Bee was never helping, he only got trapped by Obito near the end of the fight, even at the beginning, he did accomplished absolutely nothing. Naruto would have most definitely not been one-shotted by Obito. He could have easily dodged or knocked away the rods, but he needed cover while he was charging a Bijudama, which he only used in accordance to Kakashi's plan.

I hope you're joking because the same can be said about naruto's bijuu transformation.

If not for bee, they wouldn't of been able to delay the juubi from eradicating them.

Dude, we are talking about the fight with Obito are we not? I am not talking about what happened 20 chapters later, that does not concern the subject.

Up against the juubi?

Ya it was pointless, because even naruto was going to die from a wood cutter that Obito used out of the juubi.

Which lead to Neji's death...

Too many times Hachibi was shielding Naruto, because in the beginning of the fight Obito nearly koed kcm naruto if not for Gai and Kakashi.

Not only was Naruto paralyzed from Yagura's coral, but he was also unable to make clones (Since he had already made them previously). Furthermore, the only reason they where in that predicament was because of Obito's Jinchurikis. When it came down to the final fight, Hachibi did nothing that Naruto couldn't have done without him.

Plots not an excuse, especially when dividing your chakra is pointless against a man who bat his fan around taking out two clones.

If you want to use plot as an excuse, Obito could of sprayed mokuton all lover the field to damage anyone around him.

Sharingan reads movements, shadow clones would be pointless.

Actually, often, it is. And it can definitely be used in the instance against Obito. Obito does not have the same level of Mokuton as Madara, he couldn't have done that. His Mokuton, without being enhanced by Spiral Zetsu, is average at best.

How would Shadow Clones be pointless? Sharingan being able to read movements does not take away from the fact that Shadow clones are a major Kamui weakness.

What is shuushin going to do when its warped in other dimensions?

Do you know what Shunshin is?

That's unrealistic, especially when he feel that Obito must warp naruto.

He already faced naruto coming at him with clones, and he made it a priority to find the real body and beat the clones.

You can't base this off what you THINK his premonitions are because canonily he would run straight through the clones and attack the real body.

Obito doesn't warp clones, he never fell for it...

He figured out where the real naruto was, so this senerio here is just futile.

Obito saw Naruto making the clones, he saw Naruto approaching him with the clone, that is why he never fell for it, there was nothing to fall for in the first place. If Naruto makes multiple clones, and conceals himself between them, Obito will accidentally Kamui a clone, from there you know what will happen. He has no way of determining real from fake, that's a fact.

Lol what?

Okay first I want to point out that I was suggesting that Naruto would end up in a completely different dimension.

When Obito warped Fuu and Torune, they were nowhere to be found when Sasuke and Karin were in Obito's original dimension.

Kamui is one dimension, there are no other dimensions. Fuu and Torune where just placed on another platform in the same dimension.

They were sent to a completely different dimension that time, Obito warped four people that day.

Only Sasuke and Karin where in the original dimension where Obito phases.

They where in the Kamui dimension, all four of them, there is no doubt about that. Its the only dimension Obito's eye takes him too.

Moving on, Obito already saw through naruto clone so this is a pointless senserio's once again, however you relying on chance for kyuubi to break naruto iut of a genjustu?

He never needed to see through Naruto's clones. If Naruto actually attempted to conceal the real one, Obito would not be capable of telling them apart.

If he feels like?

Well I'll tell you now he won't do anything if you trust an overgrown beasts feelings.

Especially when he let him get swallowed up by another beast.

So genjustu would be GG for naruto...

Also a man who put a perfect jinchuuriki in his place, Naruto would have no countr for his genjustu at all.

Kurama can break Naruto out of Genjutsu. We don't know how Obito managed to Genjutsu Yagura, but we do know how Genjutsu is countered. And we know that as long as their is someone their (Kurama), Genjutsu can be broken (Unless its IT), even if its Koto.

Obito tried that on JJ Madara, and at no chakra he pulled out a good amount of piece from two bijuus to keep naruto alive.

Obito obviously would do it better, human path a juubi jinchuuriki doesn't get any better than that.

You also forget that Madara who taught Obito the six paths, taught Nagato himself.

Chapter 606 page 14-15 and chapter 607 page 1-6

Obito literally shoved his fist into Madara (lel), we don't even know if that was Human Path. Either way, he most certainly is not going to be capable of shoving his fist inside Naruto (lel) under battle conditions (Madara let his guard down, he thought Obito was joining his side). Madara never taught Nagato the six paths, and he only lectured Obito about the 6 Paths, neither him, nor Obito, had the Rinnegan, so Obito couldn't practice on what Madara was showing him.

Konoha 11 are a bunch of fodders?

Even Yamato?

Ya okay, that was the team that killed Kakazu and Hidan.

At the time they where. Yamato did not use any large scale Mokuton Jutsu and Kakashi hardly participated at all. The only people who where actually trying to do something was Naruto, Hinata and Shino.

•Kamui

Countered by clones.

•mokuton

Couldn't hold Naruto as per canon.

•Huge juubi size Katon

Got easily tanked by KCM Naruto's cloak.

•Six path Justus

He hardly even knows how to use them, at best, he is an amateur.

•Yin yang tech like the rikudou rod/staff

That's only if he absorbs chakra from a Jubi Jinchuriki (Or becomes one himself).

•uchiha kinjustus like uchiha flame formation or Return of the uchihas.

Flame formation is useless in a 1 Vs 1, its only good at protecting things. Uchiha Gaeishi is pretty useful, il give you that.

They can't beat that with intent to kill

I stand by what I said, Naruto can do it alone. With someone like Sasuke (Obito is not fast enough to phase through Amaterasu), it becomes a stomp.

 

[VongolaX]

In the War he did, that's all that matters as before, he had the intention of pitting Naruto against Sasuke. And Naruto was always supported by comrades.

Like I posted for, when he is fighting to kill and capture he will not use a Kamui.

Look at what he did to the alliance, he didn't warp anybody when he was trying to kill them.

Wrong. He clearly

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him making a clone.

He made clones and split up...

Gai jumped in front of him, while naruto went the opposite direction.

Because clearly chapter 595 page 7 disagrees with you.
(Read what Obito said)

Against the Mist fodder, his Mokuton was enhanced by Spiral Zetsu. Furthermore, that Mokuton gets dodged or nuked with FRS.

Those anbu's are top level jounin, how do you call an anbu jounin a fodder?

The point of the mokuton is that his level can tear through human flesh easily.

Also Frs is a poor excuse since black zetsu attached to white zetsu made that futile with little roots.

Now Obito's which is way bigger, just make it all the better on his part.

More assumption on your part, because Spiral said Obito did it by himself.

So keep of dumb theories of some other member to the actual manga itself.

No, Obito's strength is not good enough to go through Naruto, especially not KCM Naruto.

Yet his strength was strong enough to jab straight through Madara.

Yet black zetsu using Obito's body was able to go straight through Madara's chest.

A single bare hand that stopped the famous executioners blade...

Seriously get real, that will happen if he gets close to Obito

Yeah but at which point, show me a panel of him doing it.

Chapter 410 page 5-6

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He had no one protecting him, he was charging Obito alone for most of the battle. And then Gai charged Obito alone for a little bit. Kakashi stayed back and analyzed for the majority of the battle.

Gai charged in first, and naruto came and attack with his clone.

Failed, and Obito nearly capture him if not for kakashi's long range attack

The binding stakes had already pierced Bee earlier. He told Bee to cover him while he charged up a Bijudama

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. Which he only used for the sake of Kakashi's plan.

Ya, he needed Bee to over him...:|

What point of help don't you understand?

Even after that, he needed Kakashi to kamui him to avoid the stake from crushing him.

Those stakes bind on contact, theirs a reason why naruto went through great lengths to avoid any contact.

No, Bee was never helping, he only got trapped by Obito near the end of the fight, even at the beginning, he did accomplished absolutely nothing. Naruto would have most definitely not been one-shotted by Obito. He could have easily dodged or knocked away the rods, but he needed cover while he was charging a Bijudama, which he only used in accordance to Kakashi's plan.

Hachibi whirlwind, stopping three tails/five tails, fought Gedo with kcm naruto in a path towards radiance chapter, and help bm naruto to combine ttb to break his uchiha flame formation.

Ya, Bee didn't do anything... :|

What part of bind on contact don't you understand?

Naruto was avoiding every means of touching the stake and he needed Kakashi and bee to dodge him those stakes.

Dude, we are talking about the fight with Obito are we not? I am not talking about what happened 20 chapters later, that does not concern the subject.

Both scenes was Obito...

Hachibi was fighting, supporting naruto for over twenty chapter ago.

That was just an example

Not only was Naruto paralyzed from Yagura's coral, but he was also unable to make clones (Since he had already made them previously). Furthermore, the only reason they where in that predicament was because of Obito's Jinchurikis. When it came down to the final fight, Hachibi did nothing that Naruto couldn't have done without him.

Like I said before the chakra stakes was what saved BM Naruto by bee.

If kcm naruto was there alone, he Obito would of pulled the bijuu right out of him.

Even Kakashi saved him from that

Actually, often, it is. And it can definitely be used in the instance against Obito. Obito does not have the same level of Mokuton as Madara, he couldn't have done that. His Mokuton, without being enhanced by Spiral Zetsu, is average at best.

No, nowhere in the manga did it say spiral zetsu ehanced anything.

All he said was that he would protect his body..

Cut the stupid assumptions, until you get a scan that spiral zetsu has anything to do with it

Manga>>>>you

How would Shadow Clones be pointless? Sharingan being able to read movements does not take away from the fact that Shadow clones are a major Kamui weakness.

Since when is a clone kamui's weakness?

Naruto made a clone to take him out before, look what good that did him.

Clones as a retort is weak, look at what Sasuke did to naruto clones in their previous fight.

Sharingan reads movements, see every clones movement, one smack with a Gubai fan takes out a clone...

Seriously think logically, when was the last time Obito lost to a clone in a fight?

He beat the piss out of kcm naruto, so nothing's going to change about that.

Do you know what Shunshin is?

High speed movement, what point is shuushin to a space time technique?

Especially when Obito's teleporting to dimensions (slowest form) was faster than kcm naruto's speed.

Even when BM naruto try to blitz Obito, that failed too.

Obito saw Naruto making the clones, he saw Naruto approaching him with the clone, that is why he never fell for it, there was nothing to fall for in the first place. If Naruto makes multiple clones, and conceals himself between them, Obito will accidentally Kamui a clone, from there you know what will happen. He has no way of determining real from fake, that's a fact.

No, Gai attacked him first before naruto jumped in with his clone.

Obito has never been shown to kamui a clone, he beats them up with the fan first before attacking the body.

Multiple clones will be useless, and he will NOT KAMUI AN OPPONENT THAT HE WANTS TO KILL.

He'll pull out Naruto's bijuu chakra, killing him with Human path like Edo Nagato attempted to do.

Kamuing a clone, how dull considering that he fought naruto's clones by beating them up with a fan.

Kamui is one dimension, there are no other dimensions. Fuu and Torune where just placed on another platform in the same dimension.

Yet when Sasuke and Karin went to dimensions Fuu and Torune were no where to be found.

In fact, Obito told Sakura that he can travel other dimensions.

He told Sakura that he will look for Sasuke in his dimension and warped her and himself into a dimensions full of hills before looking for Sasuke.

They where in the Kamui dimension, all four of them, there is no doubt about that. Its the only dimension Obito's eye takes him too.

Prove it

He never needed to see through Naruto's clones. If Naruto actually attempted to conceal the real one, Obito would not be capable of telling them apart.

Chapter 595>>>>you

Kurama can break Naruto out of Genjutsu. We don't know how Obito managed to Genjutsu Yagura, but we do know how Genjutsu is countered. And we know that as long as their is someone their (Kurama), Genjutsu can be broken (Unless its IT), even if its Koto.

Not in kcm he's not, he's not a perfect jinchuuriki yet.

Still, Obito put one in a genjustu.

So no matter how inconvenient it sounds to you, it happened so it's canon.

Manga>>>>whatever your retort is, you can't deny that it already happened.

So nothing you say can counter otherwise

Obito literally shoved his fist into Madara (lel), we don't even know if that was Human Path. Either way, he most certainly is not going to be capable of shoving his fist inside Naruto (lel) under battle conditions (Madara let his guard down, he thought Obito was joining his side). Madara never taught Nagato the six paths, and he only lectured Obito about the 6 Paths, neither him, nor Obito, had the Rinnegan, so Obito couldn't practice on what Madara was showing him.

Obito was right in front of him, so it was not a suprise attack.

That attack was human path, human path removes chakra from the opponent.

Which is what Obito did, he even told kabuto he can use it.

Chapter 606 page 14 Madara says I will teach you the six path Justus.

So I don't know what your rambling on about, he taught him the Justus.

In page 15 he said used the black rods in preforming the six path Justus.

Blind Madara even used the six path techniques without the rinnegan, and Susanoo.

At the time they where. Yamato did not use any large scale Mokuton Jutsu and Kakashi hardly participated at all. The only people who where actually trying to do something was Naruto, Hinata and Shino.

The mokuton was suppose to suppress Obito, yet that failed.

Even Kiba tried

Countered by clones.

Clones meet Gunai fan GG

Couldn't hold Naruto as per canon.

Thats if he wants to capture him...

This is kill, wood cutter will tear him up like it did the mist shinobi and the whole alliance.

Got easily tanked by KCM Naruto's cloak.

Rapes all forms of his FRS

He hardly even knows how to use them, at best, he is an amateur.

Amateurs don't pull off a six path Justu on JJ Madara and get away with a good enough result to save naruto himself.

Nor do their Outer path get put on a higher level either.

Madara taught him all of it, before Obito offered to teach Nagato how to use.

Saying he's an amateur is just plain dense on your part.

That's only if he absorbs chakra from a Jubi Jinchuriki (Or becomes one himself).

Madara already taught Obito how to use Inyouton (yin yang technique) without the juubi.

Obito absorbed chakra so he can rip out two bijuus, that staff was done by himself.

Another one was used on Sasuke's Enton arrow shortly before becoming the juubi jinchuuriki.

Flame formation is useless in a 1 Vs 1, its only good at protecting things. Uchiha Gaeishi is pretty useful, il give you that.

He can easily use it to trap kcm naruto inside.

I stand by what I said, Naruto can do it alone. With someone like Sasuke (Obito is not fast enough to phase through Amaterasu), it becomes a stomp.

Hahaha what?

You mean the Obito that beat Amatersu that implanted in Sasuke and fail?

Or the high speed Enton arrow that a Sasuke shot off the Inertia of Aoda, that was countered by three small rikudou rods?

Obito stomp these guys, kcm naruto gets one shot by human path.

 

[Haizaki]

1. Bee, Ay, and the Sandaime Raikage​

They take this.

2. Rinnegan Obito( Bijuu and Gedo Mazo restricted)

Together they beat him with Ease.

3. Alive Minato and Tobirama

Together they win.

4. Nagato

Hmm High diff or Med.

5. Sasori, Kisame, Deidara, Kakuzu, and Hidan

Amataerasu one shots most of these guys. Team 7 stomps.

6. Healthy Itachi and DSM Kabuto(Mugen Onsa and ET restricted)

They win this cuz of the clones though and due to the fact that Sasuke beats Itachi. Even with Mugen onsa, Kakashi and Sasuke can break the others out.

7. EMS Madara(Can use up to legged V4)

They win

8. Base Hashirama

They win. If he could use SS, he'll rape them though.

9.10,000 White Zetsu

They win this

10. Gokage+ Mū, Danzo, Hiruzen, Orochimaru(ET restricted) and Jiraiya(unlimited SM).

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Lol they lose badly here

 

[Killua Zoldyck]

Like I posted for, when he is fighting to kill and capture he will not use a Kamui.

He can't even hope to beat Naruto without Kamui.

He made clones and split up...

Gai jumped in front of him, while naruto went the opposite direction.

Because clearly chapter 595 page 7 disagrees with you.
(Read what Obito said)

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Here is what happened step-by-step. Gai did not do anything, Naruto made the clone right in front of Obito, and charged him.

Those anbu's are top level jounin, how do you call an anbu jounin a fodder?

Shikamaru almost beat 9 Sound Nin who he called Jonin way back during the Chunin Exams. Its well established that if a character has no feats nor name and is called a Jonin, he is basically fodder.

The point of the mokuton is that his level can tear through human flesh easily.

Sure it can, as can a regular Kunai. Will it tear through KCM Naruto's cloak? Nope. Will it even catch KCM Naruto? Nope.

Also Frs is a poor excuse since black zetsu attached to white zetsu made that futile with little roots.

No, Naruto just tripped over his twigs.

Now Obito's which is way bigger, just make it all the better on his part.

See, again. Obito's Mokuton is not bigger, it was enhanced by White Zetsu.

More assumption on your part, because Spiral said Obito did it by himself.

Its not an assumption, its a fact that Spiral Zetsu enhances his wearers abilitys, just on example was when Obito punched through a rock with him on. There is also

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.

Yet his strength was strong enough to jab straight through Madara.

Yet black zetsu using Obito's body was able to go straight through Madara's chest.

A single bare hand that stopped the famous executioners blade...

Seriously get real, that will happen if he gets close to Obito

No it won't. If Obito ever even try's to punch Naruto he gets killed, as Naruto is many times faster then him.

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Suigetsu did not even try to hit Obito, Obito intercepted his sword with his strong arm. However, against Bee, Suigetsu went straight for the middle, there was no other way Bee could have intercepted the attack, and he also managed to toss his sword away, which also might be the reason why he blocked that way.

Gai charged in first, and naruto came and attack with his clone.

Failed, and Obito nearly capture him if not for kakashi's long range attack

Wrong, your memory is not serving you right.

And no, he would have not captured him because Naruto could have used his chakra arms.

Ya, he needed Bee to over him...:|

What point of help don't you understand?

Even after that, he needed Kakashi to kamui him to avoid the stake from crushing him.

Those stakes bind on contact, theirs a reason why naruto went through great lengths to avoid any contact.

This was all in accordance to Kakshi's plan, what part of Kakashis plan do you not understand? Naruto only needed cover to fire a Bijudama which he only fired in accordance to Kakashis plan, otherwise, he would have not fired it and thus, not needed anyone's help. The stakes would not make any contact if Naruto flings them away with his chakra arms.

Hachibi whirlwind, stopping three tails/five tails, fought Gedo with kcm naruto in a path towards radiance chapter, and help bm naruto to combine ttb to break his uchiha flame formation.

Ya, Bee didn't do anything... :|

Irrelevant

What part of bind on contact don't you understand?

Naruto was avoiding every means of touching the stake and he needed Kakashi and bee to dodge him those stakes.

No he did not. He could have dodged them on his own or even knocked them away if he was not charging up a Bijudama.

Both scenes was Obito...

Hachibi was fighting, supporting naruto for over twenty chapter ago.

That was just an example

That was the fight with the Jinchurikis , which are restricted .

Like I said before the chakra stakes was what saved BM Naruto by bee.

If kcm naruto was there alone, he Obito would of pulled the bijuu right out of him.

Even Kakashi saved him from that

Your like a broken recorder. Naruto asked Bee too protect him while he charged a Bijudama, he would not have even tried to charge a Bijudama if he was alone, therefore, he would not need Bee's help. PERIOD.

No, nowhere in the manga did it say spiral zetsu ehanced anything.

It was on panel that he enhanced Obito's strength. Yamato would not be capable of using the Mini Shinsuusenju without Spiral Zetsu either.

Cut the stupid assumptions, until you get a scan that spiral zetsu has anything to do with it

Already did.

Since when is a clone kamui's weakness?

Since Obito's version of Kamui mechanics where found.

Naruto made a clone to take him out before, look what good that did him.

He made on clone without trying to conceal his presence. If he makes 13 Clones and tries to Conceal the real on, its a completely different story, Obito gets overwhelmed.

Clones as a retort is weak, look at what Sasuke did to naruto clones in their previous fight.

Don't even begin to compare the two. KCM Clones are on a whole different scale from the regular ones.

Sharingan reads movements, see every clones movement, one smack with a Gubai fan takes out a clone...

Obito has to be solid to smack a clone, if another clone is attacking him, he can't smack anything. And if Naruto uses Shunshin right when Obito smacks a clone its a sure hit.

Seriously think logically, when was the last time Obito lost to a clone in a fight?

That's absolutely terrible logic.

He beat the piss out of kcm naruto, so nothing's going to change about that.

Hardly.

High speed movement, what point is shuushin to a space time technique?

Naruto will know the second Obito materializes via malice sensing and use Shunshin to hit him when Obito is trying to hit a clone.

Especially when Obito's teleporting to dimensions (slowest form) was faster than kcm naruto's speed.

Baseless claim.

Even when BM naruto try to blitz Obito, that failed too.

Show me BM Naruto trying to blitz Obito.

No, Gai attacked him first before naruto jumped in with his clone.

Wrong.

Obito has never been shown to kamui a clone, he beats them up with the fan first before attacking the body.

He won't know the real one between multiple clones. Using his fan against multiple clones is suicide.

Multiple clones will be useless, and he will NOT KAMUI AN OPPONENT THAT HE WANTS TO KILL.

They will be about just as useless as Obito's Kamui. I suppose Obito kills his opponents with Katon in Vs threads lol.

He'll pull out Naruto's bijuu chakra, killing him with Human path like Edo Nagato attempted to do.

No he won't, his human path is no better then Nagatos.

Kamuing a clone, how dull considering that he fought naruto's clones by beating them up with a fan.

He hit one clone with the fan that he saw being made right in front of him. Your being very ignorant of the facts.

Yet when Sasuke and Karin went to dimensions Fuu and Torune were no where to be found.

Correction, they where nowhere to be found on the platform Sasuke and Karin where on. That does not mean they where no in the dimension.

He told Sakura that he will look for Sasuke in his dimension and warped her and himself into a dimensions full of hills before looking for Sasuke.

No. They followed Kaguya into the centre of all her dimensions, and from there, Obito was able to find Sasuke because they where in the centre of all the dimensions.

Prove it

You prove that they where not. We know that Obito's eye only goes to the Kamui dimension, that's all the proof I need.

Chapter 595>>>>you

That chapter only supports my facts.

Not in kcm he's not, he's not a perfect jinchuuriki yet.

Yes he is, he went into KCM after becoming a perfect Jinchuriki as well.

Still, Obito put one in a genjustu.

We know how Genjutsu is broken. If you want to refute that fact then go ahead and try.

So no matter how inconvenient it sounds to you, it happened so it's canon.

He did not put a Jinchuriki of Kurama under Genjutsu, so no, its not canon.

Obito was right in front of him, so it was not a suprise attack.

Does not matte, it was still a surprise attack, or do I have to give you the definition of a surprise attack?

That attack was human path, human path removes chakra from the opponent.

Wrong, Human Path removes souls from the opponent.

Which is what Obito did, he even told kabuto he can use it.

We know he can use it, just not to the same degree as Nagato. Let alone superior.

Chapter 606 page 14 Madara says I will teach you the six path Justus.

The object does not need to be right in front of him to teach it.

In page 15 he said used the black rods in preforming the six path Justus.

What?

Blind Madara even used the six path techniques without the rinnegan, and Susanoo.

No he did not. He had a natural chakra absorption trait like Kisame.

The mokuton was suppose to suppress Obito, yet that failed.

Il say it again, Yamato hardly did anything.

Even Kiba tried

And failed miserably, he got side stepped. Kiba is not that strong.

Clones meet Gunai fan GG

Correction, one clone meets Gunbai Fan, the others punch Obito to oblivion while he hits the clone.

This is kill, wood cutter will tear him up like it did the mist shinobi and the whole alliance.

No it won't, it can be dodged. And no, Obito does not have the same Jutsu that the Jubi used to kill off the alliance.

Rapes all forms of his FRS

FRS destroys Obito's pathetic Mokuton, wether you like it or not.

Amateurs don't pull off a six path Justu on JJ Madara and get away with a good enough result to save naruto himself.

He did not use Human Path on Madara, and he only got the drop on Madara because Madara was under the impression that Obito would join his side. He got away only thanks to Kakashi.

Obito absorbed chakra so he can rip out two bijuus, that staff was done by himself.

The staff was done after he absorbed some of Madara's chakra.

Another one was used on Sasuke's Enton arrow shortly before becoming the juubi jinchuuriki.

Yes, Jubi Jinchuriki can use it.

He can easily use it to trap kcm naruto inside.

Naruto jumps up.

Hahaha what?

You mean the Obito that beat Amatersu that implanted in Sasuke and fail?

It still hit him.

Or the high speed Enton arrow that a Sasuke shot off the Inertia of Aoda, that was countered by three small rikudou rods?

Which came out of Madara's will.

Obito stomp these guys, kcm naruto gets one shot by human path.

Your funny.

 

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He can't even hope to beat Naruto without Kamui.

Your assumption, he's killed without kamui so your wrong on that account

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Here is what happened step-by-step. Gai did not do anything, Naruto made the clone right in front of Obito, and charged him.

Well no, they fought at the same time:

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The clone and Gai

Shikamaru almost beat 9 Sound Nin who he called Jonin way back during the Chunin Exams. Its well established that if a character has no feats nor name and is called a Jonin, he is basically fodder.

Baseless and Irrelevant

Anbu are on a completely different level than regular jounins

Even then, Shikamaru said that he was going to die

So your retort is pointless

Sure it can, as can a regular Kunai. Will it tear through KCM Naruto's cloak? Nope. Will it even catch KCM Naruto? Nope.

Kunai knife doesn't tear threw people

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Obito's mokuton does

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Will it rip kcm naruto apart? Yes...

Is it fast enough?

Sure as hell yes, black zetsu even got him

No, Naruto just tripped over his twigs.

keep lying, black zetus pulled him with his roots

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See, again. Obito's Mokuton is not bigger, it was enhanced by White Zetsu.

Scan, because you are assuming...

white zetsu doesn't enhance anything

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spiral zetsu>>>you

You're not even using facts, you just made that up as usual

Its not an assumption, its a fact that Spiral Zetsu enhances his wearers abilitys, just on example was when Obito punched through a rock with him on. There is also

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???

What's the point of this?

He said that he was protecting Obito, never stated anything about him enhancing his mokuton.

In the end, Obito was still fighting and not Zetsu.

Even Madara confirmed:

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spiral zetsu was not mentioned yet again

No it won't. If Obito ever even try's to punch Naruto he gets killed, as Naruto is many times faster then him.

Well this is pretty stupid of you

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Not even BM naruto is as fast as him:

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Obito's kamui is as fast as ftg and kaguya's dimension powers...

space time justus>>>>>anyone else speed

Suigetsu did not even try to hit Obito, Obito intercepted his sword with his strong arm. However, against Bee, Suigetsu went straight for the middle, there was no other way Bee could have intercepted the attack, and he also managed to toss his sword away, which also might be the reason why he blocked that way.

He Obito jumped in and blocked....

He was going full motion towards Kisame and Obito jumped in and absorbed the blow easily

Wrong, your memory is not serving you right.

And no, he would have not captured him because Naruto could have used his chakra arms.

You mean these chakra arms that failed before?

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Look at Kcm naruto run from being touched by Obito:

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saved by Kakashi GG

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This was all in accordance to Kakshi's plan, what part of Kakashis plan do you not understand? Naruto only needed cover to fire a Bijudama which he only fired in accordance to Kakashis plan, otherwise, he would have not fired it and thus, not needed anyone's help. The stakes would not make any contact if Naruto flings them away with his chakra arms.

Stakes bind on contact, so again you are wrong:

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Bee told him not to touch the stake.

He touches it, it's GG Naruto

Irrelevant

Yes it is completely relevant, it's called taxing chakra...

I'm pretty sure you don't know what your typing anymore


No he did not. He could have dodged them on his own or even knocked them away if he was not charging up a Bijudama.

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Ya please, start reading seriously

That was the fight with the Jinchurikis , which are restricted .

POint is, that Hachibi is particapating

Your like a broken recorder. Naruto asked Bee too protect him while he charged a Bijudama, he would not have even tried to charge a Bijudama if he was alone, therefore, he would not need Bee's help. PERIOD.

The f*ck?

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He'd rip it out PERIOD

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Like he did his mother...

I shouldn't have to repeat myself

It was on panel that he enhanced Obito's strength. Yamato would not be capable of using the Mini Shinsuusenju without Spiral Zetsu either.

Irrelevant

Yamato wasn't even conscious so he didn't use it, and spiral zetsu said Obito was the one so case closed.

Already did.

Still waiting because clearly you didn't

Since Obito's version of Kamui mechanics where found.

Another horrible analogy:

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There goes your clone retort, he'll go threw them like Sasuke did his clones in part one

He made on clone without trying to conceal his presence. If he makes 13 Clones and tries to Conceal the real on, its a completely different story, Obito gets overwhelmed.

Ya, he'll send thirteen more clones flying

Don't even begin to compare the two. KCM Clones are on a whole different scale from the regular ones.

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This isn't a normal clone kid

Obito has to be solid to smack a clone, if another clone is attacking him, he can't smack anything. And if Naruto uses Shunshin right when Obito smacks a clone its a sure hit.

You mean like over here:

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Ya, that didn't work out for him either

That's absolutely terrible logic.

Already worked omce, he can do it again

Hardly.

already did

Naruto will know the second Obito materializes via malice sensing and use Shunshin to hit him when Obito is trying to hit a clone.

Broken record, read above

Baseless claim.

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Learn to read

Show me BM Naruto trying to blitz Obito.

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He won't know the real one between multiple clones. Using his fan against multiple clones is suicide.

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Tell that to Kishi, even Obito said he knew

They will be about just as useless as Obito's Kamui. I suppose Obito kills his opponents with Katon in Vs threads lol.

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You even know that's wrong

No he won't, his human path is no better then Nagatos.

Baseless assumption

prove it, Obito ripped out two bijuus...Nagato did what?

A fodder....

He hit one clone with the fan that he saw being made right in front of him. Your being very ignorant of the facts.

In a battle he's going to see everything, especially with a sharingan

Correction, they where nowhere to be found on the platform Sasuke and Karin where on. That does not mean they where no in the dimension.

They weren't there at all

No. They followed Kaguya into the centre of all her dimensions, and from there, Obito was able to find Sasuke because they where in the centre of all the dimensions.

Proof

That chapter only supports my facts.

No it really didn't

FONT=Arial Black] Yes he is, he went into KCM after becoming a perfect Jinchuriki as well.

Meaning kcm naruto isn't a perfect jichuuriki YET

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We know how Genjutsu is broken. If you want to refute that fact then go ahead and try.

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He did not put a Jinchuriki of Kurama under Genjutsu, so no, its not canon.

What does that have to do with anything?

A jinchuuriki is a jinchuuriki PERIOD

Does not matte, it was still a surprise attack, or do I have to give you the definition of a surprise attack? [/FONT

surprise attack on a on a space time users, good luck with that.

sharingan sees chakra

Wrong, Human Path removes souls from the opponent.

chakra is soul

We know he can use it, just not to the same degree as Nagato. Let alone superior.

Stupid assumption

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The object does not need to be right in front of him to teach it.

already knows it

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What?

Doesn't have the rinnegan, so he'll use the black rod

No he did not. He had a natural chakra absorption trait like Kisame.

No, it doesn't work that way...

Otherwise he would be able be able to use it before meeting Madara.

Which he didn't

Il say it again, Yamato hardly did anything.

Yamato tried to supress him with mokuton, I don't need to repeat myself

And failed miserably, he got side stepped. Kiba is not that strong.

Point proven, he side step and warped through everyone without even trying to fight.

He even used hiding like a mole techniques.

Correction, one clone meets Gunbai Fan, the others punch Obito to oblivion while he hits the clone.

That didn't happen the first time or the second time for that matter.

Return of the Uchihas

No it won't, it can be dodged. And no, Obito does not have the same Jutsu that the Jubi used to kill off the alliance.

Wood cutter was used on the mist anbu

FRS destroys Obito's pathetic Mokuton, wether you like it or not.

Like it failed to kill zetsu?

Banfuu Ranbuku GG FRS

He did not use Human Path on Madara, and he only got the drop on Madara because was under the impression that Obito would join his side. He got away only thanks to Kakashi.

He used Human path to rip out the bijuus...end of story

Madara saw him heading towards him in broad daylight.

The staff was done after he absorbed some of Madara's chakra.

No it wasn't...

He even used it to block Sasuke's Enton arrow before becoming juubi Jin.

Yes, Jubi Jinchuriki can use it.

Ya, and so can non juubi jinchuuriki Obito

Naruto jumps up.

Jumps up inside the barrier, still trapped inside.

It still hit him.

No it doesn't

Which came out of Madara's will.

That Obito can control use, just like he did black zetsu.

Those were rikudou rods, only smaller than the one he used on JJ Madara.

Your funny.

How cutie, you actually think he stands a chance
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