Whose reflexes and reactions are better?

Better reactions?

  • Tobirama Senju

    Votes: 11 19.6%
  • Minato Namikaze

    Votes: 39 69.6%
  • Draw

    Votes: 6 10.7%

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Minato took out an entire army division in a blink of an eye.

Nuff said.
 

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Yea ,in the kakashi background arc, the konoha shinobi were like don't blink your eye for a second or you'll miss the whole stuff. Tobirama was good but Minato is better:devil:
 

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The stupidity of this base never cease to amaze. Speed is NOT reaction time. Anyway, Tobirama was tagging Juubito wheares Minato had his arm cut off.
 

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The stupidity of this base never cease to amaze. Speed is NOT reaction time. Anyway, Tobirama was tagging Juubito wheares Minato had his arm cut off.

Is that why minato was the only edo to not get killed or incapacitated?

Only losing an arm compared to getting your entire body ripped in two is by no means a good comparison at all.
 
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Did not expecting poll to be this one sided :(

No one has actually really explain why though. I was hoping to see some good point and facts from manga, in case I miss something.

Also I agree with that amazing feat of my man Tobirama able to tag Juubito, however I think minato could have done same thing. I don't think that point is good enough.
 

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Tobirama easily. He's got a much better reaction feat than all of Minato's reaction feats. It's as simple as that.
 

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Tobirama easily. He's got a much better reaction feat than all of Minato's reaction feats. It's as simple as that.

Yeah right :rolleyes: The fact that you said easily makes you look even stupider.

Keep dreaming
 

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lol going off manga feats..

Tobirama...

Fighting SM Madara with Limbo

Catching Bomb and resending it back when Minato was frozen

Reacting to God Tree with Jutsu where Minato got his chakra sucked

Warping to Obito and successfully attacking where as Minato got his arm ripped away


Not giving the enemy the nine tails kyuubi
 
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They didn't fight similar opponents to reasonably argue who has better reactions than who. You can't compare mindless Jubito to Brain Jubito V2. As well as you can't compare base Madara to Jubidara. But i feel the implication of the manga(showing Minato facing stronger versions), plus Kishimoto's portrayal in terms of speed between Tobirama and Minato was to show that in the manga logic, Minato has the superior speed and reactions, so i'll always vote him
 

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They didn't fight similar opponents to reasonably argue who has better reactions than who. You can't compare mindless Jubito to Brain Jubito V2. As well as you can't compare base Madara to Jubidara. But i feel the implication of the manga(showing Minato facing stronger versions), plus Kishimoto's portrayal in terms of speed between Tobirama and Minato was to show that in the manga logic, Minato has the superior speed and reactions, so i'll always vote him

Minato gave the nine tails to BZ.... he lost all respect in terms of reaction compared to Tobirama
 

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Minato gave the nine tails to BZ.... he lost all respect in terms of reaction compared to Tobirama
That wasn't a reaction problem but someone emotionally unstable. His mind was completely focused somewhere else, in the idea of saving his son at all cost
 

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That wasn't a reaction problem but someone emotionally unstable. His mind was completely focused somewhere else, in the idea of saving his son at all cost

I can agree with you but if you look at other situations Tobirama still prevailed.

due to how the manga was written you can't really give a RAW estimate considering in many situations Tobirama has shown better reaction however Tobirama has more experience and close encounters to be better equipped and ready for when his Speed/FTG fails him.

Minato instantly beat 50 shinobi... Rather fodder or not that is a great feat since 50 people dropped simultaneously.

However, Minato downfall seems to be not having a backup plan for if his speed fails him. This is noted with his stunned look after Obito warped the bomb with him, Madara out doing him in FTG, Killer bee 1 uping him, Obito taking his arm. Where as Tobirama seems to be well versed in multiple outcomes (good and bad) with using FTG.
 

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This is noted with his stunned look after Obito warped the bomb with him,
It was simply the difference between someone using shunshin and someone static(so not using it). The one using shunshin always arrive faster since shunshin(or teleportation) is a high speed movement to cross large distances in the blink of an eye and we already know Minato has better shunshin than him
Madara out doing him in FTG,
And it was Jubi Jin Madara who outdid him, the god Obito described in the Kage summit. Pay attention that base Madara showed to be comparable in terms of speed with Tobirama. The Madara, Minato faced had the Jubi inside him, upgrading his physical speed, sensing and reactions to unbelievable might compared to his normal self

Killer bee 1 uping him
That had nothing to do with a difference in reactions considering that Minato just teleported there without actually pulling the trigger(stabbing Bee) like he did to Obito. He had no intent to kill while Bee anticipated his teleport beforehand
Obito taking his arm. Where as Tobirama seems to be well versed in multiple outcomes (good and bad) with using FTG.
And the Jubito Tobirama faced was mindless and an inferior version and he still lost half his body. Minato faced a superior version(you can see the drastical transformation) with brain and Minato still mindly reacted to his movements and partially dodged his second attempt.

So like you can see the situations are either not the same or misinterpretated
 

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It was simply the difference between someone using shunshin and someone static(so not using it). The one using shunshin always arrive faster since shunshin(or teleportation) is a high speed movement to cross large distances in the blink of an eye and we already know Minato has better shunshin than him
And it was Jubi Jin Madara who outdid him, the god Obito described in the Kage summit. Pay attention that base Madara showed to be comparable in terms of speed with Tobirama. The Madara, Minato faced had the Jubi inside him, upgrading his physical speed, sensing and reactions to unbelievable might compared to his normal self

That had nothing to do with a difference in reactions considering that Minato just teleported there without actually pulling the trigger(stabbing Bee) like he did to Obito. He had no intent to kill while Bee anticipated his teleport beforehand
And the Jubito Tobirama faced was mindless and an inferior version and he still lost half his body. Minato faced a superior version(you can see the drastical transformation) with brain and Minato still mindly reacted to his movements and partially dodged his second attempt.

So like you can see the situations are either not the same or misinterpretated

Only instance you brought up concerning Tobirama was him losing his body which was intentional to use his infinite explosion.

The thing is though.. Since Tobirama excelled in majority of his actions and Minato failed (rather mental or other outside factors) Tobirama overall has shown better reaction times considering mental quickness affects your reactions as well. This is something Minato seems to lack
 

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Minato has shown to have better reflexes and reaction speed.
 

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Only instance you brought up concerning Tobirama was him losing his body which was intentional to use his infinite explosion.

The thing is though.. Since Tobirama excelled in majority of his actions and Minato failed (rather mental or other outside factors) Tobirama overall has shown better reaction times considering mental quickness affects your reactions as well. This is something Minato seems to lack

You're comparing a mentally unstable minato to a Tobirama who was not emotionally affected at all. The same thing happen to Kakashi when he found out who Tobi was, he could no longer fight properly. Minatos son on the verge of death as well, and black zetsu stealing Kurama is nothing to blame minato for. As bogard said, he wanted to save his son at all cost, black zetsu is undetectable. What you should ikon at is how fast minato switched from chakra transfer to rasengan in he he blink of an eye, that's pretty good reactions. Black zetsu also caught Madara off guard, so it's hardly fair to use the bz incident.

And like what has already been stated, the opponents Tobirama faced were inferior to the opponents minato faced. Tobirama didn't intentionally lose his body to Obito, it was near impossible to react anyway, but he took advantage of the situation. Minato only lost an arm to a much superior version of the same opponent.
 

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You're comparing a mentally unstable minato to a Tobirama who was not emotionally affected at all. The same thing happen to Kakashi when he found out who Tobi was, he could no longer fight properly. Minatos son on the verge of death as well, and black zetsu stealing Kurama is nothing to blame minato for. As bogard said, he wanted to save his son at all cost, black zetsu is undetectable. What you should ikon at is how fast minato switched from chakra transfer to rasengan in he he blink of an eye, that's pretty good reactions. Black zetsu also caught Madara off guard, so it's hardly fair to use the bz incident.

And like what has already been stated, the opponents Tobirama faced were inferior to the opponents minato faced. Tobirama didn't intentionally lose his body to Obito, it was near impossible to react anyway, but he took advantage of the situation. Minato only lost an arm to a much superior version of the same opponent.

Discrediting opponents to favor your favorite... Whatever... Sir

Explain the god tree incident then? KCM Minato was captured and drained.. Tobirama was fast enough to defend himself. Same opponent...
 
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