Chidori Clash

[Megatolium]

I don't think that when he cut the lightning, he said raikiri. It's a moniker. Also, if Itachi has time to react to Kirin, it means their paper reflexes far exceed that benchmark. I see Sasuke winning due to his much stronger and very abundant chakra

Raikiri literally means lightning cutter.

 

[iiPyromaniac]

...yes, its the exact same jutsu. the names/rank show which character uses it - in other words, the ''nickname'' isn't a coincidence, it was planned. There is never an instance of kakashi creating a separate jutsu.

You're actually wrong in this instance. The Raikiri isn't just a moniker. It's not just a differently named Chidori. The Raikiri is actually an enhanced and more concentrated version of Chidori. Basically what this means is that there is a higher concentration of Lightning Chakra in the Chidori, thus making it more powerful and bringing it up to S-Rank. The name "Lightning Cutter" comes from Kakashi using a more concentrated, enhanced version of Chidori to cut a lightning bolt. I suppose you could say that Raikiri is basically Chidori V2. You could say the mechanics behind this are similar to A's Lightning Armor - His first version is the base version, V2 is an improved version of the base technique.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

You're actually wrong in this instance. The Raikiri isn't just a moniker. It's not just a differently named Chidori. The Raikiri is actually an enhanced and more concentrated version of Chidori. Basically what this means is that there is a higher concentration of Lightning Chakra in the Chidori, thus making it more powerful and bringing it up to S-Rank. The name "Lightning Cutter" comes from Kakashi using a more concentrated, enhanced version of Chidori to cut a lightning bolt. I suppose you could say that Raikiri is basically Chidori V2. You could say the mechanics behind this are similar to A's Lightning Armor - His first version is the base version, V2 is an improved version of the base technique.

I want to see a scan. Sasuke's chidori in Part 2 is much stronger than Part 1 yet he doesn't call it rakiri. It looks different, and if it can penetrate Ai's lightning armor it must be powerful.

The difference was only that Kakashi had a feat which earned him the moniker of lightning cutter. I doubt that Kakashi would intentionally teach him a weak version when he knew that he had to try and satisfy his thrust for power to keep him in the village and stop him from using the curse mark.

Either way, it is said Sasuke has extremely powerful chakra even amongst the uchiha. That added with Yin And Senjutsu, it doesn't make sense that Kakashi would equal yin chidori.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

All possible scenarios considered here, they would likely cancel each other out. Kakashi can maximize the impact of his techniques at the cost of minimal chakra. Raikiri is an enhanced and concentrated version of Chidori, meaning that it's not just a nickname. This means that it would likely be of equal or close to equal power as Sasuke's Yin Chidori.

Yin Chidori vs Raikiri - Results would either be they negate each other, both Sasuke and Kakashi take minimal damage, or Yin Chidori slightly overpowers Raikiri and Kakashi takes minimal damage.

Chidori vs Raikiri - Raikiri overpowers the Chidori due to Raikiri being a more concentrated and enhanced version. Sasuke takes minimal to moderate damage.

I like your idea but that isn't how a clash works. Unless the jutsus completely cancel out or the winner doesn't intend to kill, the winner is not only going to push the force of your jutsu upon you, but he or she will commence their own jutsu

With chidori there are five factors

Speed of thrust

Strength of chakra (all jutsu)

Amount of Chakra (to keep chidori running)

Chakra control: the more compact the chidori the more electricity to fuel the attack.

Excellence/ Affinity in the jutsu

This goes as following

Speed: Sasuke

Chakra Strength: Sasuke

Amount of Chakra: (for a clash it's a tie)

Chakra control: I'd imagine Kalashi

Both are lightning affinity with Sasuke having an edge of mastery over the nature itself

 

[iiPyromaniac]

I want to see a scan. Sasuke's chidori in Part 2 is much stronger than Part 1 yet he doesn't call it rakiri. It looks different, and if it can penetrate Ai's lightning armor it must be powerful.

The difference was only that Kakashi had a feat which earned him the moniker of lightning cutter. I doubt that Kakashi would intentionally teach him a weak version when he knew that he had to try and satisfy his thrust for power to keep him in the village and stop him from using the curse mark.

Either way, it is said Sasuke has extremely powerful chakra even amongst the uchiha. That added with Yin And Senjutsu, it doesn't make sense that Kakashi would equal yin chidori.

We don't actually know how much of an impact the Yin infusion makes on the Chidori, which is why it was more of an estimate than a fact. There is no denying that Sasuke's chidori is powerful, moreso than it was in part I. There isn't a tremendous difference between the two techs, it's just that the Raikiri is basically Chidori V2. A slightly more powerful, more refined, focused version of the Chidori. Sasuke's chidori seems to differ depending on the arc.

Had Kakashi not split a Lightning bolt with it, it wouldn't be called Raikiri and would instead simply be Chidori V2. As for a Manga scan, I can't be bothered finding one that's good enough since it's easier to distinguish the difference in the Anime.

 

[Selan]

Sasuke has Rikudo chakra now, so Kakashi can't win in a clash head on.

If Sasuke is before Rikudo's power up, Kakashi stomps: he is faster and physically better, and Raikiri >> Chidori obviously.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

We don't actually know how much of an impact the Yin infusion makes on the Chidori, which is why it was more of an estimate than a fact. There is no denying that Sasuke's chidori is powerful, moreso than it was in part I. There isn't a tremendous difference between the two techs, it's just that the Raikiri is basically Chidori V2. A slightly more powerful, more refined, focused version of the Chidori. Sasuke's chidori seems to differ depending on the arc.

Had Kakashi not split a Lightning bolt with it, it wouldn't be called Raikiri and would instead simply be Chidori V2. As for a Manga scan, I can't be bothered finding one that's good enough since it's easier to distinguish the difference in the Anime.

It seems as though the anime assumes what manga contradicts. It wouldn't be called chidori V2 being that he was saying chidori up until he cut the blade. It's all the same by feats

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Sasuke has Rikudo chakra now, so Kakashi can't win in a clash head on.

If Sasuke is before Rikudo's power up, Kakashi stomps: he is faster and physically better, and Raikiri >> Chidori obviously.

Sasuke has been faster since he fought Itachi. Physically they're pretty equal with Kakashi being physically stronger, but Sasuke being faster

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Raikiri literally means lightning cutter.

Exactly, just moniker