People ought to stop calling Kakashi's Susanoo Obito's

[Shadow Phantasm]

Certainly.
Guess Sasuke's Susanoo is now Itachi's Susanoo, because if it wasn't for Itachi's eyes, Sasuke would not have it now.

Obito had double MS and didn't have Susanoo.
Kakashi has double MS and has Susanoo.

Simple as that.

One:Sasuke already had MS and his own Susanoo so that comparison is flimsy at best.
Second:Kakashi had no Sharingan nor did he possess the chakra necessary to even use Susanoo until Obito gave him both.

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

It is Obito's Susanoo because Kakashi has Obito's eyes.

 

[Takos]

Sure, its Kakashi's Susanoo, but the only reason he has it is because Obito gave him his powers.

In a way, yes. From what the manga told us so far, we can assume that Obito gave Kakashi his chakra. This means Kakashi's own reserves have been enlarged with Obito's and Obito's chakra that Kakashi received caused Kakashi's own eyes to change into the ones like Obito's. I say "like", because clearly these are not the same eyes. Obito's eyes became dust just like the rest of his body. The Sharingan that we see now is Kakashi's and so is his Susanoo.

No doubt in my mind that Obito could achieve the same thing on his own.

Maybe. Maybe not. We will most likely never know, but the fact stands that Obito never had any Susanoo.
We can speculate all we want. You say you have no doubt Obito could achieve the same thing, while I say, that Obito has always been less skilled than Kakashi, so it's likely that Obito himself would not be able to accomplish what Kakashi just did. (Not saying he would NEVER be able to use Susanoo, I just find it likely that he wouldn't be able to utilize it that well so soon after getting double MS.) And I think none of us can prove the other one anything.

And lol, he didn't "awaken" Sharingan in Kakashi's eyes. He gave Kakashi all his chakra and eye power, hence why it takes the same shape as Obito's MS and grants him the same powers.

As above.

One:Sasuke already had MS and his own Susanoo so that comparison is flimsy at best.
Second:Kakashi had no Sharingan nor did he possess the chakra necessary to even use Susanoo until Obito gave him both.

But it would have been gone by now if it wasn't for Itachi's eyes. I see this case as analogous.
At this very moment, Kakashi owes his powers to Obito just like Sasuke owes his powers to Itachi. It's obvious that none of them would be able to utilize them right now if it wasn't for these two, but it doesn't change the fact that it's Kakashi's and Sasuke's powers, respectively.

 

[Light up the Darkness]

Kakashi is very weak without obito help

He even call himself useless

 

[KidGamer65]

In a way, yes. From what the manga told us so far, we can assume that Obito gave Kakashi his chakra. This means Kakashi's own reserves have been enlarged with Obito's and Obito's chakra that Kakashi received caused Kakashi's own eyes to change into the ones like Obito's. I say "like", because clearly these are not the same eyes. Obito's eyes became dust just like the rest of his body. The Sharingan that we see now is Kakashi's and so is his Susanoo.

Wrong. They are the same eyes, just not in physical form. Obito gave him his power, so they are Obito's eyes. They didn't change into eyes like Obito's. No two people have the same Mangekyo pattern, if it were Kakashi's MS, it'd be different. Kakashi is using Obito's eye power, he doesn't have his own Sharingan, his Susanoo is most likely Obito's as well, except since Kakashi is using it, it takes after him (That scar on its face)

Maybe. Maybe not. We will most likely never know, but the fact stands that Obito never had any Susanoo.
We can speculate all we want. You say you have no doubt Obito could achieve the same thing, while I say, that Obito has always been less skilled than Kakashi, so it's likely that Obito himself would not be able to accomplish what Kakashi just did. (Not saying he would NEVER be able to use Susanoo, I just find it likely that he wouldn't be able to utilize it that well so soon after getting double MS.) And I think none of us can prove the other one anything.

Less skilled has nothing to do with anything here. Skill has nothing to do with awakening Susanoo in the first place. The fact Kakashi only used it after getting Obito's power means that Obito can achieve it as well, its ridiculous to say Kakashi can do something with Obito's power that Obito can't do with his own power himself.

 

[Zlatán]

You can't tell me what to do

 

[Migster257]

Susanoo doesn't carry scars, or look anything identical to the user.

If it was kakashi's Susanoo, he would of saved Sasuke and Naruto preventing Obito from suicide.

Latest chapter said that Obito gave him his temporary power perfect Susanoo

So....... Manga>>>>you

I stupid theory of what seems to be a scar isn't enough proof or fact to support your claim.

The mange didn't even state his gift was a perfect Susanoo.
somewhat logical theory > your stupid misinterpretation
It's Kakashi's Susanoo. Obito just allowed it to happen. Since when was is stated in the mange that you needed to be an Uchiha to awaken it? You just needed two MS.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Don't see how it's any different from when minato and Kushina sealed Kurama into Naruto. Still Narutos power, not his parents.

Obito gave Kakashi his new powers as a gift, yes fair enough. It's still Kakashi's power though, Obito is just the catalyst that made it happen.

So it's Kakashi's Susanoo not Obitos.

 

[Takos]

Wrong. They are the same eyes, just not in physical form. Obito gave him his power, so they are Obito's eyes. They didn't change into eyes like Obito's. No two people have the same Mangekyo pattern, if it were Kakashi's MS, it'd be different. Kakashi is using Obito's eye power, he doesn't have his own Sharingan, his Susanoo is most likely Obito's as well, except since Kakashi is using it, it takes after him (That scar on its face)

I think it's best to wait with this argument until Kakashi's Sharingan disappears, which would prove your point of it being Obito's, or until Kakashi is shown to be able to turn it on and off, which will prove my point of it being Kakashi's.

Less skilled has nothing to do with anything here. Skill has nothing to do with awakening Susanoo in the first place. The fact Kakashi only used it after getting Obito's power means that Obito can achieve it as well,

Oh, skill does matters in awakening Susanoo, a lot, I'd say. Obito said it's a rarity for an MS user to awaken Susanoo. Do you think that they awaken it randomly? Someone does, someone doesn't, with no factors whatsoever?

its ridiculous to say Kakashi can do something with Obito's power that Obito can't do with his own power himself.

Is it? It's Obito's power, but, more generally - Uchiha's power. And it has been already stated that Kakashi has surpassed a vast majority of the Uchiha in his mastery of the Sharingan. So, as you can see, it is entirely possible for him to be more skilled in the usage of it than the "rightful" owners.

 

[KidGamer65]

I think it's best to wait with this argument until Kakashi's Sharingan disappears, which would prove your point of it being Obito's, or until Kakashi is shown to be able to turn it on and off, which will prove my point of it being Kakashi's.

There is no argument. Obito already stated this power up is temporary.

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Oh, skill does matters in awakening Susanoo, a lot, I'd say. Obito said it's a rarity for an MS user to awaken Susanoo. Do you think that they awaken it randomly? Someone does, someone doesn't, with no factors whatsoever?

Rarity=/=Skill. Don't know how its chosen, but I do know that it being rare doesn't mean that whoever gets it got it because they are skilled.

Is it? It's Obito's power, but, more generally - Uchiha's power. And it has been already stated that Kakashi has surpassed a vast majority of the Uchiha in his mastery of the Sharingan. So, as you can see, it is entirely possible for him to be more skilled in the usage of it than the "rightful" owners.

Example doesn't hold. The Uchiha who he surpassed aren't Obito, nor did they pretty much hand their abilities over to Kakashi. Obito handed his Sharingan and chakra to Kakashi and a second later he uses Susanoo. That isn't skill, that's because Obito gave him his power.

 

[WalksInShadows]

if Kakashi was the one to manifest it, it's Kakashi's regardless of where the chakra came from as far as i'm concerned.

 

[VongolaX]

The mange didn't even state his gift was a perfect Susanoo.
somewhat logical theory > your stupid misinterpretation
It's Kakashi's Susanoo. Obito just allowed it to happen. Since when was is stated in the mange that you needed to be an Uchiha to awaken it? You just needed two MS.

Wow you're stupid...

Obito said he will give kakashi a gift, and the only thing we have seen given to Kakashi is Susanoo.

So clear interpretation of the manga>>>>>>> your stupid fapboying assumption that suits your needs

Madara didn't use two ms for his Susanoo.....

 

[Takos]

Wow you're stupid...

Obito said he will give kakashi a gift, and the only thing we have seen given to Kakashi is Susanoo.

So clear interpretation of the manga>>>>>>> your stupid fapboying assumption that suits your needs

Madara didn't use two ms for his Susanoo.....

I guess Kakashi had double Sharingans before that, so Obito's gift HAS to be Susanoo itself rather than eyes that Kakashi can use to activate his own Susanoo?
Sorry, no. Obito gave him his chakra. This changed Kakashi's own eyes into Sharingan ones and then Kakashi proceeded to form his own Susanoo with them.

There is no argument. Obito already stated this power up is temporary.

From the beginning I've interpreted it as the known weakness of MS users going blind. So, as you can see, there IS an argument, even if you don't want there to be. We know too little to determine whether Kakashi will go blind, or simply lose Susanoo, or maybe have his Sharingan taken away, or maybe even have only one of the Sharingan taken away, or maybe nothing will happen at all, since Obito is only a character of this manga who is not all-knowing...
To assume that your interpretation is so obvious, that there isn't even any place for discussion about it, is arrogant.

Rarity=/=Skill. Don't know how its chosen, but I do know that it being rare doesn't mean that whoever gets it got it because they are skilled.

There you go. If we assume what you think, that skill doesn't matter in awakening Susanoo, then you've just shown yourself that just because Kakashi could activate Susanoo doesn't mean Obito ever could.
You have no proof of it whatsoever and will never have.
If it's skill that allows one to activate Susanoo, then it's very likely that Kakashi COULD do it faster and better than Obito would ever be able to.
If it's randomness, then it's entirely possible that while Kakashi activated it by chance, Obito would have not.
Sorry.

Example doesn't hold. The Uchiha who he surpassed aren't Obito, nor did they pretty much hand their abilities over to Kakashi. Obito handed his Sharingan and chakra to Kakashi and a second later he uses Susanoo. That isn't skill, that's because Obito gave him his power.

But the point still stands. Just because you say Kakashi can't be better with what was originally Obito's Sharingan doesn't mean it has to be true. You simply have nothing to back it up apart from "but it SHOULD be like I want it to be".

 

[Angelic.]

its obitos chakra, just like the fake rinne in pains eyes.
obito wanted to die and was probably weak
i think obitos eyes awoke it but kakashi stabalized it.
it would make more sense that way bc of teamwork blabla

 

[Jarex]

Obito is in kakashi and kakashi is now the jin of obito. He activated susano through the help of obito's chakra and eyes. If obito can't use susano then kakashi won't be able to do so. Can a jinchuriki use a power that belongs to another bijuu instead of the one sealed inside of them? No. So obito has susano that is why kakashi was able to use it too but it will still go because obito will leave his body sooner or later.

 

[Migster257]

Wow you're stupid...

Obito said he will give kakashi a gift, and the only thing we have seen given to Kakashi is Susanoo.

So clear interpretation of the manga>>>>>>> your stupid fapboying assumption that suits your needs

Madara didn't use two ms for his Susanoo.....

I suppose the right eye and extra chakra don't count as a gift?
Somewhat logical theory~unclear manga presentation>your stupidity.
Madara not using two MS helps my point more. Clearly Kakashi won't need the eyes then.

 

[Bogard]

Did people even understand the significance of the previous chapter? It was to show Kakashi's prowess as a copy ninja. Sure Obito gave him the Sharingan, but the Susanoo itself, it's Kakashi the one who developed it by copying the mechanism to summon the jutsu with his chakra by observing Sasuke and using it in one go

 

[KamuiGodObito]

Your saying dumb stuff like this please change your profile pic it obito eyes by the way kakashi has his chakra not eyes.

 

[synkross]

It is Obito's power given to Kakashi temporarily. you are an Idiot if you think Kakashi can awaken susanoo on his own.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

Wait are you the guy the other obito fans hate because u have a pic of him but u in their pov bash him ?