You mean Naruto beated an exhausted Pain, with the help of Kurama, prep, and the fact that Pain didn't get to use two of his paths, and the the fact that Naraka only revived Preta Path. Yeah...
You mean Naruto beated an exhausted Pain, with the help of Kurama, prep, and the fact that Pain didn't get to use two of his paths, and the the fact that Naraka only revived Preta Path. Yeah...
You mean Naruto beated an exhausted Pain, with the help of Kurama, prep, and the fact that Pain didn't get to use two of his paths, and the the fact that Naraka only revived Preta Path. Yeah...
Naruto canonically needed Kurama's help to stand a chance. Not to mention Tendo had to recharge its powers for most of the fight. No counter to Chibaku Tensei at all. Pointless debate.
Naruto did need Kurama's help in canon to even stand a little chance. Not to mention the fact that he had a shitload of prep, had help from three summons (and Ma and Pa,) and the fact that Tendo didn't have his powers for most of the fight, along with the fact that Pain's chakra and life force and stamina was diminished by using the CST. Which put him in a weakened state, but he still beat SM Naruto before he went Kyuubi mode.
A weakened Tendo Pain still managed to go and beat a Six Tailed Naruto, and could have taken down Naruto in his eight tailed mode by the fact that he could have made his CT larger.
I don't really see the point in this, but I'm willing to judge.
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Countering Pain in Cqc(Close combat).
Naruto quickly summons Shima to use Dust Cloud. This is a massive cloud of dust from her mouth, which is thick enough that it is capable of blocking the target's vision completely. The dust cloud is also large enough to hide a summon as large as Gamabunta.(
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).This renders Pain blind. Once the dust is out Naruto un-summons Shima and then proceed to use Gamabunta Gamaken and Gamahiro. Naruto uses Combination Transformation to turn Gamahiro into Kurama. Naruto then jumps on Gamaken who proceeds to jump while Naruto uses multple clones to preform this.(
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). Naruto then proceed to throw 4 of them 2 towards the ground and 2 at Deva. Preta is most likly going to stay next to Deva for protection. Deva paths sends the first one back via shira tensei. Once Preta tries to absorb the second one this happens.(
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). Naruto then proceeds to pick up his body seeing as Naraka path can revive him. Once those 2 Rasenshurikens hit the ground Naruto then proceeds to disguise his clones as rock like he did here.(
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). This will catch the paths by surprise then Naruto proceeds to one shot Ashura path like this.(
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). Then takes his body back so Naraka cannot revive him. Naruto has already shown that he can overpower Deva in cqc with ease while in SM.(
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). Also Naruto easily survives getting hit the average Shira tensei seeing as Kakashi tanked one.(
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).SM Durability here. Also Naraka and Human path gets beaten to pieces by SM clones since neither of them has shown any good Taijutsu feats. (
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Countering Deva path abilities.
This will be an easy task for Naruto seeing as he can now fuse with Ma and Pa. The only reason he couldn't fuse with them in the first place is because Kurama rejected them. Him and Kurama are friends now so kurama will let the fusion happen since he cares about Naruto. Basho Tennin-- Will be much easier for Naruto to counter seeing as Ma and Pa can be infused into his should there for he cannot just pull them away from Naruto. Once he use Basho tennin plus rods Naruto throws a Rasenshuriken to plow through the rods.(This can be done without being fused with Ma and Pa) If Ma and Pa is fused with him they can help by using Frog Call on Pain while there being pulled closer.(
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). Or use there elements.(
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). Far to many ways to counter Basho tennin while fused. Shira Tensei- is counter like it was in cannon.(
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).During his interval this happens.(
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). Full scale Shira Tensei- This will be a bad idea for Deva path to do since it will cause him to be on a huge interval and it will kill all the other paths. Naruto can simply have all three boss summonings brace him similar to how his clones did. While braced within the frogs Naruto will also use his clones as shields as well.(
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).Chibaku Tensei- This will be extremely hard for Naruto to counter without Kurama but i believe he can do it. Naruto will simply have to make these Rasenshurikens.(
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). 5 of those should do the trick since he has info on the ability he can lauch 5 of those at the Ct orb before it can manage to build up to much. Not to mention he can also expand Rasenshurikens as well.(
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). GG Chibaku Tensei.
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Countering Animal path.
Animal path is the next deadliest path. Animal path will most likely try to get inside the chameleon to evade cqc and getting destroyed. Rhino and the Ox gets this treatment.(
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). Then get's cut in half via FRS. Same goes for the Ox. Cerebrus get's stunned via Frog.(
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). Gamahiro who is Kurama restrains him via 9tails tails. As for the bird Gamabunta jumps near it then spits oil Shima uses her Katon and this happens.(
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). As for Chameleon and Animal path they can hide as long as they want. Once Ma and Pa uses Toad Confrontation Chant is game over. Seeing as they'll be in hearing range of Naruto/Ma and Pa sound genjutsu.
First off let's start with what will Pain's formation look like:
Deva Path(in front)
Preta, and Human Path(on the left and rightside behind Deva)*
Animal(behind Preta)*
Asura(behind Human)*
Naraka(behind all)*
*There are a few meters between them of course.
Now lets talk about the abilities of the paths and how will they help in this fight.
Naraka Path
Naraka will be untouchable, since he has the protection of all the paths in front of him. If a path dies King of Hell will revive it.
Asura Path
Now that Asura has the protection of the other paths he isn't getting blitzed. His rockets will be a distraction for Naruto and the Toads. Asura will use his
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to finish off the Giant Toads, while they are distracted, by Animal Path's summons.
Animal Path
Cerberus: Cerberus is the biigest threat as a summon to Naruto, because of its immortality. It even
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FRS enchanced by Kurama's chakra. Not only is Cerberus immortal, but he can also split in multiple dogs.
Giant Bird: The Giant bird can
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Naruto's summons.
Giant Ox and Giant Rhino: They can serve as a distraction for the Toads.
Giant Chameleon: Can catch one of Naruto's summons off guard, with the tongue, its snake-like-tail has, due to his invisibility.
Giant Crab: The Giant Crab can use Water Release: Wild Bubble Wave to counter Bunta's oil, or trap the toads in the liquid.
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Summons not mentioned are useless...
Human Path
Human Path isn't covered by any Paths aren't than Deva, but I'm sure this isn't a problem.
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he catches Jiraya's Punch, just before Jiraya hits him. During the Pain Invasion Arc, Human Path blitzes a sensory squad.
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. Human Path not only dodged FRS, but also saved Animal Path, by grabbing him and throwing him away, just before Animal Path was hit.
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. Its kind of a stretch, but i will say that Human Path can also take Toads souls out, since well... they have souls... Human Path will also be needed for my stragedy of finishing off Naruto.
Preta Path
Preta Path absorbs FRS, while Deva can't use ST. He can also absorb any elemental attack,coming from Ma and Pa.
Deva Path
A very important Path, but also the strongest one, so I'm not afraid putting him in front. Deva will use ST to repel Shadow Clones and FRS. He will also use BT on Fukasu, so that he won't be able to gather senjutsu chakra for Naruto. Deva Path along with Human Path will finish off Naruto. If needed Deva ends this fight with CST and CT.
How Pain Defeats Naruto
Summons get defeteated, by already explained ways. Once Deva uses BT on Fukasu, Naruto won't be able to make more than 2 FRS, or one CFRS.If Naruto uses Smoke Bombs, Asura bombards the place where the Smoke is, or Deva uses an ST there. Preta, Human, Asura Path, and Summons will attack Naruto, so that Deva can use ST again. However, even this won't be needed since Deva dodged the the hidden FRS, Naruto threw behind the other FRS, and easily defeated the clones that suprisingly attacked him.
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BT and a soul rip defeat Naruto. If Human Path isn't revived, then Preta sacrifises himself for the team. If needed a focused CST kills Naruto and all of the toads, seeing that a lot weaker one broke Gamabunta's bones.
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. CT will definetely defeat Naruto.KN6 started prepping a Bijuudama, once the black orb started pulling him.x
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Naruto won't be able to use CFRS, since its too time consuming. Clones, then making an FRS, then making it bigger, CT will have already smashed him. Even if he is able to throw it it won't destroy CT.
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Naruto quickly summons Shima to use Dust Cloud. This is a massive cloud of dust from her mouth, which is thick enough that it is capable of blocking the target's vision completely. The dust cloud is also large enough to hide a summon as large as Gamabunta.(
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).This renders Pain blind. Once the dust is out Naruto un-summons Shima and then proceed to use Gamabunta Gamaken and Gamahiro.
Naruto uses Combination Transformation to turn Gamahiro into Kurama. Naruto then jumps on Gamaken who proceeds to jump while Naruto uses multple clones to preform this.(
Lol So many flaws. You sound like all the paths will just wait for Naruto to do all these things. A single ST destroys all clones. And how is Naruto using 4 CFRS at the same time, when he has only been shown to be able to use one?XD
Preta is most likly going to stay next to Deva for protection. Deva paths sends the first one back via shira tensei. Once Preta tries to absorb the second one this happens.(
Nope, what happens is Deva stabs the clone just like he did it
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Naruto then proceeds to pick up his body seeing as Naraka path can revive him. Once those 2 Rasenshurikens hit the ground Naruto then proceeds to disguise his clones as rock like he did here.(
Already posted Human Path feats.So Pain's weakest ST won't kill Naruto? Well the one Deva used on the Boss summons destroys Naruto. Naraka is protected by other Paths, or King of Hell kills the clones.
This will be an easy task for Naruto seeing as he can now fuse with Ma and Pa. The only reason he couldn't fuse with them in the first place is because Kurama rejected them. Him and Kurama are friends now so kurama will let the fusion happen since he cares about Naruto.
Agreed
Basho Tennin-- Will be much easier for Naruto to counter seeing as Ma and Pa can be infused into his should there for he cannot just pull them away from Naruto. Once he use Basho tennin plus rods Naruto throws a Rasenshuriken to plow through the rods.(This can be done without being fused with Ma and Pa) If Ma and Pa is fused with him they can help by using Frog Call on Pain while there being pulled closer.(
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). Or use there elements.(
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). Far to many ways to counter Basho tennin while fused.
Full scale Shira Tensei- This will be a bad idea for Deva path to do since it will cause him to be on a huge interval and it will kill all the other paths. Naruto can simply have all three boss summonings brace him similar to how his clones did. While braced within the frogs Naruto will also use his clones as shields as well.(
How are Toads, saving Naruto from CST, when they were fodderised by a normal ST?XD Deva focused ST on a
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, he isn't killing the other paths, he just sends the ST straight forward.XD
Chibaku Tensei- This will be extremely hard for Naruto to counter without Kurama but i believe he can do it. Naruto will simply have to make these Rasenshurikens.(
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). 5 of those should do the trick since he has info on the ability he can lauch 5 of those at the Ct orb before it can manage to build up to much. Not to mention he can also expand Rasenshurikens as well.(
How is he making 5 of these, when he has only been shown to use one? Lets say Naruto makes two clones on his platform to make a CFRS. How is he making 5 CFRS, when he needs 14 clones for that. He can't summon them on the little platform. Unless you mean that he can make clones on the other platforms which is just absurd.:|
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Countering Animal path.
Animal path is the next deadliest path. Animal path will most likely try to get inside the chameleon to evade cqc and getting destroyed.
As for Chameleon and Animal path they can hide as long as they want. Once Ma and Pa uses Toad Confrontation Chant is game over. Seeing as they'll be in hearing range of Naruto/Ma and Pa sound genjutsu.
