[Discussion] Super Saiyan God = Super Saiyan 4

[Kai NB]

In all actuality, isn't SS4 the same as SSG?

I mean strength wise, not factoring in SSG gives God Ki, making the user undetectable by normal Ki Sensing standards


GT was definitely a train wreck in my opinion, but in essence, the power up is the same, at least to me. What do you guys think?

P.S. I know GT isn't canon

 

[Xēnovia.]

Even though, I love SSJ 4 concept it's not canon to the original story line of Drgaonball Z. It's hard to determine the power lvls of the two due to GT having many inconsistencies to Z.​

 

[Kai NB]

Even though, I love SSJ 4 concept it's not canon to the original story line of Drgaonball Z. It's hard to determine the power lvls of the two due to GT having many inconsistencies to Z.​

True. We also got to take into account that there have been no feats shown from Super Saiyan God yet

 

[slaton02]

I wish ssjgod looked better. Goku becomes an uzumaki lol, it should be much more badass.

 

[Mr Freeze]

That story about how to become a Super Saiyan God was horse s**t, they(creator, the Kishi of dbz) knew a ssj4 goku or vegeta could have went toe to toe with bills and won med to very hard dif and plus didn't have them use fusion GOGETA OR SSJ4 GOGETA(a overkill for anybody even for bills) WOULD HAVE WON NEG DIF

 

[CDT23]

I believe there will be more to the transformation. I hope they make another series or movie.

 

[-Shiro-]

Akira said that Bills was stronger then omega right?


Ss4 was completely out classed...and god was giving bills a fight when he was using 70% of his abillitys, so I think god mode is stronger then ss4

 

[Luamek]

i thought gt was pretty god, just could have been executed a bit better and that SSJ God mode, that sh!t is so dumb and the design is ridiculous, maybe a change of body texture or shorter but more bad ass hair, maybe the real SSJ4 will be better if they even decide to take it that far, let alone SSJ5

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

In all actuality, isn't SS4 the same as SSG?

I mean strength wise, not factoring in SSG gives God Ki, making the user undetectable by normal Ki Sensing standards


GT was definitely a train wreck in my opinion, but in essence, the power up is the same, at least to me. What do you guys think?

P.S. I know GT isn't canon

I think he's more powerful slightly and on another note

Can we finish the debate?

 

[Peace Maker]

correct me if im wrong but arent bills uses hes atleast 80% of his power when he fought goku? and bills was even repected and feard by shenron so u decide.

 

[Koha]

That story about how to become a Super Saiyan God was horse s**t, they(creator, the Kishi of dbz) knew a ssj4 goku or vegeta could have went toe to toe with bills and won med to very hard dif and plus didn't have them use fusion GOGETA OR SSJ4 GOGETA(a overkill for anybody even for bills) WOULD HAVE WON NEG DIF

But Bills was holding back. A LOT.. Didn't Toriyama say if Goku SSG was a 6 then Bills power is a 10?

But DBGT was so inconsistent with power scaling it's ridiculous.. SS4's power is under debate, really, compared to SSG.

 

[Torche]

Nah, SSJ4 Goku was cut by glass. 'Cause **** logic.

 

[iiPyromaniac]

I felt that DBGT headed in the right direction. I liked the idea of the black star balls. It'd be boring for them to be able to spam the dragonballs with no consequences. As for SS4 it's weaker than SSG, however, SS4 Gogeta is roughly as strong as SSG or slightly weaker than SSG. SS4 Gogeta's power level is around 2.4 billion according to the wiki.

 

[flyboyissac]

Ssj4 goku have no plot so his strength don't go up randomly that's why I like gt

Dbz has powerup changes like ssj1 its power keeps going up and ssj3 ssj2 is rarely used