Why Sasuke cannot suppress Naruto's Bijuu

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In the beginning of Shippuden, Sasuke managed to suppress a portion of Kurama's chakra. The majority of Kurama's chakra was already being suppressed by Minato's seal. The ability of suppression is a form of hypnosis, where the user suggests thoughts and actions to the target via genjutsu cast by simple eye contact.

Sasuke suppressed this chakra from Kurama:

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In Sasuke's case suppress =/= control.

If he had full control over Kurama, then the Sharingan would have reflected in Kurama's eyes like when Obito was controlling him. Adding to this, it is easier to control one target rather than multiple, but Sasuke wasn't even in full control to begin with.

Also, since the hypnosis/suppression is considered genjutsu, it is ineffective against perfect jinchuuriki.


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This is why Sasuke would not be able to suppress Naruto's bijuu.​



Link of Kurama's chakra above ^
 

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Who said suppressing the Bijuu count as Genjutsu? It could be just Dojutsu. Also, suppression is a form of control.
 

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Suppressing a Perfect Jin and Suppressing their Bijuu are nothing alike. Genjutsu the Jinchuriki and the Bijuu breaks them out, Suppress the Bijuu and it's over.
 
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In the beginning of Shippuden, Sasuke managed to suppress a portion of Kurama's chakra. The majority of Kurama's chakra was already being suppressed by Minato's seal. The ability of suppression is a form of hypnosis, where the user suggests thoughts and actions to the target via genjutsu cast by simple eye contact.

Sasuke suppressed this chakra from Kurama:

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In Sasuke's case suppress =/= control.

If he had full control over Kurama, then the Sharingan would have reflected in Kurama's eyes like when Obito was controlling him. Adding to this, it is easier to control one target rather than multiple, but Sasuke wasn't even in full control to begin with.

Also, since the hypnosis/suppression is considered genjutsu, it is ineffective against perfect jinchuuriki.


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This is why Sasuke would not be able to suppress Naruto's bijuu.​



Link of Kurama's chakra above ^

Dude its all plot no say in hell naruto can fight a uchiha
Genjutsu gg but kishi wanna let the white boy get a little shine
 

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Who knows. Maybe kishi
 

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Who said suppressing the Bijuu count as Genjutsu? It could be just Dojutsu. Also, suppression is a form of control.
No, its indeed genjutsu. Nice thread.
 

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Who said suppressing the Bijuu count as Genjutsu? It could be just Dojutsu. Also, suppression is a form of control.



Read the hypnosis section. And I said Sasuke didn't have full control.
 

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Who said suppressing the Bijuu count as Genjutsu? It could be just Dojutsu. Also, suppression is a form of control.

How do you surpress the bjuu? with some sort of magic?

Its genjutsu moron.

The fact is this,Sasuke sucks at genjutsu,suppressing a perfect jinchuriki with 9 tailed beasts is way way out of the question.
 

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Suppressing a Perfect Jin and Suppressing their Bijuu are nothing alike. Genjutsu the Jinchuriki and the Bijuu breaks them out, Suppress the Bijuu and it's over.
This is correct they are two different things
 

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Suppressing a Perfect Jin and Suppressing their Bijuu are nothing alike. Genjutsu the Jinchuriki and the Bijuu breaks them out, Suppress the Bijuu and it's over.

How would he suppress the Bijuu? All nine Bijuu at that? Do you realize the magnitude of chakra that is?
 

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Read the hypnosis section. And I said Sasuke didn't have full control.

But how do we know that falls under the category of Genjutsu? After thinking about it, I think it's most likely Genjutsu, but there's the possibility it could be something else.

And Necromancer is right. If Sasuke takes down the Bijuu itself, then it's over. A Bijuu can bust the Jinchuriki out of Genjutsu, but unless the Jinchuriki can break the Bijuu out, which we haven't seen any able to do, then the Bijuu can still be taken out of the equation.
 

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How do you surpress the bjuu? with some sort of magic?

Its genjutsu moron.

The fact is this,Sasuke sucks at genjutsu,suppressing a perfect jinchuriki with 9 tailed beasts is way way out of the question.

It could be a Ninjutsu-class Dojutsu that grants the ability to control a Bijuu. Or a Fuiinjutsu-class Dojutsu.
 

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But how do we know that falls under the category of Genjutsu? After thinking about it, I think it's most likely Genjutsu, but there's the possibility it could be something else.

And Necromancer is right. If Sasuke takes down the Bijuu itself, then it's over. A Bijuu can bust the Jinchuriki out of Genjutsu, but unless the Jinchuriki can break the Bijuu out, which we haven't seen any able to do, then the Bijuu can still be taken out of the equation.

That's the thing though, there's no proof that Sasuke even can fully suppress the Bijuu.
 

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what if naruto disrupts the bijuus chakra to break them out? is that possible?
 

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The fact that this is even being discussed is a testament to the shenanigans of NB.

Sasuke sepressed a completely minuscule amount of 50% Kyuubi who was already under a seal and strained. He can't pull that shit off even on his best day against a full, single Tailed Beast, let alone all 9. Great thread nonetheless.

What's more, Naruto would have to stand idly by and ALLOW it to happen. Which he wouldn't do. Naruto would break the link instantly in the same manner Bijuu break their Jin's out of genjutsu.
 

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what if naruto disrupts the bijuus chakra to break them out? is that possible?

Since he's in complete control and friends with Kurama, it should be. We have no way of knowing though.
 

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That's the thing though, there's no proof that Sasuke even can fully suppress the Bijuu.

I mean, what's the indicator that he sealed away just a portion of Kurama? Naruto hadn't open the seal, so it's not like there was a specific amount there that manifested itself as Kurama. It was the entire entity, and Sasuke pushed it away. He's gotten stronger, he's gotten more proficient with his eyes, his eyes have gotten much stronger, and he didn't even appear to put any effort in pushing Kurama away. Madara said the Tailed Beasts are helpless against the eyes of the Uchiha, like they were slaves, and Sasuke excels in Sharingan, so it's not that farfetched to assume he can suppress them.
 

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I mean, what's the indicator that he sealed away just a portion of Kurama? Naruto hadn't open the seal, so it's not like there was a specific amount there that manifested itself as Kurama. It was the entire entity, and Sasuke pushed it away. He's gotten stronger, he's gotten more proficient with his eyes, his eyes have gotten much stronger, and he didn't even appear to put any effort in pushing Kurama away. Madara said the Tailed Beasts are helpless against the eyes of the Uchiha, like they were slaves, and Sasuke excels in Sharingan, so it's not that farfetched to assume he can suppress them.

Lol, I put a link at the bottom of the OP bro. The chakra that was leaking out of Kurama's cage was all that Sasuke suppressed. Remember how Kurama's chakra used to leak out in part 1? That wasn't even close to the entirety of Kurama's chakra.
 
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