complete sage mode vs eternal mangekyo

riley freeman

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apparently ems shits on sage mode

they havent even thought of pros and cons

SM
-Increased taijutsu, ninjutsu and genjutsu power
-Sensing
-Durability
-Last for about 5 minutes


EMS
- PS or atleast legged susanoo
-2 extra skills
-OP genjutsu
-Increased chakra reserve
-Better body movement
-Last as long as the user has chakra to keep it on

EMS>>>>SM
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I don't understand how people say EMS when in a straight up fight (Madara vs Hashirama), the EMS abilities were overwhelmed by the Sage user. Sage mode is clearly superior.
 

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SM
-Increased taijutsu, ninjutsu and genjutsu power
-Sensing
-Durability
-Last for about 5 minutes


EMS
- PS or atleast legged susanoo
-2 extra skills
-OP genjutsu
-Increased chakra reserve
-Better body movement
-Last as long as the user has chakra to keep it on

EMS>>>>SM
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sm has better body movement
sage art elements
and can become with nature energy > can flex body
 

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Hashirama's SM craps on PS med diff. High diff if kurama is included.
 

riley freeman

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sm has better body movement
sage art elements
and can become with nature energy > can flex body

SM doesnt have better movement, madara beat sm naruto easily but sasuke was keeping up with him, even ms gives better movement
nature energy is useless if you cant hit the target
 

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Complete sage mode gives
-Increased strength
-Increased stamina
-Sensing
-Senjutsu infused techniques
-Enhanced durability
-Greater reflexes

EMS gives
-Able to use MS techniques without going blind.


Yeah Sage mode wins.

This / Thread!
 

riley freeman

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I don't understand how people say EMS when in a straight up fight (Madara vs Hashirama), the EMS abilities were overwhelmed by the Sage user. Sage mode is clearly superior.

Hashirama is something else, give someone else his sm and madara would destroy that person

Hashirama's SM craps on PS med diff. High diff if kurama is included.

Hashirama, even without sm, is as strong as an sm user
 

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SM doesnt have better movement, madara beat sm naruto easily but sasuke was keeping up with him, even ms gives better movement
nature energy is useless if you cant hit the target

no sm does have better movement..
in the pain arc when naruto punched one of the pains he had a sage art that let him punch pain b4 hand
 

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no sm does have better movement..
in the pain arc when naruto punched one of the pains he had a sage art that let him punch pain b4 hand

SM can only sense, sharingan has precognition, 3T>>>SM in movement
Rinnegan doesnt give precognition
 

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Hashirama is something else, give someone else his sm and madara would destroy that person



Hashirama, even without sm, is as strong as an sm user

Funny because the only other person that has a complete sage mode is Naruto, give Naruto Hashirama's sage mode and he beats Madara too. Sage mode beats EMS.
 

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Ems over sm, unless were talking about hashirama.
 

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i said complete sm
your all saying uncomplete sm over ems
how biased
 

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Hashirama put EMS Madara to bed.

SM wins.
 

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if it came down to it, i'd take the CSM over EMS. It has better pros. Simple as that.
 
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