Kamui =/=victory

[KingHashirama]

I mean it'll take a day or 2 for that person to die in the dimension, and technically that fight is over, after the opponent gets teleported somewhere else, unless Obito decides to fight in the dimension, and then beats the opponent then that would be considered a fight. Otherwise its simply avoiding the fight imo.

People like Hashirama/Zetsu and others with mokuton ability survive for years in there lol.

That person died because I used my jutsu on him



I dont know who assigned you to make up rules like that, because they are no such rules in NV, this isnt boxing where you fight in a ring

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Are we talking about rules from NV. Cause clearly 0 VS threads follow rules form NV.

Nor is the fighting scenario here the same as the one in your scans. They were fighting for the faith of the world. If Obito was to teleport Naruto that would take Naruto out of the game. And clearly they didn't know at that point they could go and retrieve Naruto.

And again this is my opinion no need to get hurt over it. And not really, that person died because he didn't ahve anything to drink. But if you had fought that person in that dimension you would've been killed.

 

[Beans2]

Umm of course it's a victory for Obito. He just leaves them in there for a day or so and comes back when they're not expecting it or they're asleep, and slits their throat with a kunai.

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

what if obito uses it like kakashi ? partial teleportation : ripping victims' bodies apart

 

[KingHashirama]

what if obito uses it like kakashi ? partial teleportation : ripping victims' bodies apart

Then that gives him the win if they opponent dies .

Trapping your enemy and them dying of starvation and dehydration is a form of victory used by armies for centuries.

Mano e Mano =/= Armies mate.

You must perfer a battle a REAL battle... I kinda agree

Precisely. Where 2 opponents are fighting, and the winner is determined on that battlefield.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Theirs 4 ways to leave Kamui Land so it's not like theirs no way out... and it's a technical win and a bich move

Obito has to let them out intentionally so there's no possible escape for anyone trapped in Kamui land.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Kamui Hashirama GG

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

I mean it'll take a day or 2 for that person to die in the dimension, and technically that fight is over, after the opponent gets teleported somewhere else, unless Obito decides to fight in the dimension, and then beats the opponent then that would be considered a fight. Otherwise its simply avoiding the fight imo.

People like Hashirama/Zetsu and others with mokuton ability survive for years in there lol.


Are we talking about rules from NV. Cause clearly 0 VS threads follow rules form NV.

Nor is the fighting scenario here the same as the one in your scans. They were fighting for the faith of the world. If Obito was to teleport Naruto that would take Naruto out of the game. And clearly they didn't know at that point they could go and retrieve Naruto.

And again this is my opinion no need to get hurt over it. And not really, that person died because he didn't ahve anything to drink. But if you had fought that person in that dimension you would've been killed.

It's more like holding someone captive.... I kinda agree it is more like avoing battle... once Obito goes back to Kamui land depending on the opponent he would get solo'd... I mean Obito got solo'd by Madara in his own dimension.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Then that gives him the win if they opponent dies .


Mano e Mano =/= Armies mate.



Precisely. Where 2 opponents are fighting, and the winner is determined on that battlefield.

Fighting someone straight up is a fool's choice when you can warp them to a different dimension and be done with it.

 

[KingHashirama]

Eh this is just a difference in opinion i guess.

Kamui Hashirama GG

- mokuton

- Water

- survives for years

- obito can't use kamui

He still sadly can't beat him. I knew some obito fan would try to bring him into this.

Fighting someone straight up is a fool's choice when you can warp them to a different dimension and be done with it.

Not really, that is called a Mano e Mano duel 1 vs 1 , man to man duel. Just like "shinobi kamute" between Kakashi and Obito. Requires both to be on the field.

Thats why i don't even like using "summons" in fights between characters.

It's more like holding someone captive.... I kinda agree it is more like avoing battle... once Obito goes back to Kamui land depending on the opponent he would get solo'd... I mean Obito got solo'd by Madara in his own dimension.

basically. Obito in the kamui dimension is about normal Kakashi's level.

 

[Demonic.]

Kamui Hashirama GG

Hashirama eats Obito for breakfast bruh. No pun intended. You know.. Cause Obito is dorritos.

 

[HiddenSound]

Through the use of a Jutsu, Tobi completely eliminates the threat a person poses. That's called victory...

 

[Umari Senju]

I think a person who is trapped for eternity and starves to death has lost the fight

Except the OP is right in this case. So you are trapped for eternity and starve to death. This means Obito can't use Kamui for battle ever again until his opponent starves to death. If Obito does than the opponent trapped in Kamui could just pull a Kakashi and as soon as Obito gets in another battle and uses Kamui on a part of his body, the Shinobi trapped inside the Kamui dimension is just going to bring the pain on that body part.

If it's Obito's head then Obito is finished. Kauming someone to the Kamui dimension is not a victory. It's a loss for both opponents.

 

[KingHashirama]

Through the use of a Jutsu, Tobi completely eliminates the threat a person poses. That's called victory...

"jutsu" "jutsu" jutsu is simply a technique, nothing more than that. I don't see how if its your jutsu = your win..

And also, technically it can be their victory also. However, in a 1 vs 1 duel that would be considered a tie to the battle, unless Obito goes into the dimension to attack the person.

 

[Demonic.]

Through the use of a Jutsu, Tobi completely eliminates the threat a person poses. That's called victory...

No it's not. Unless the person is incapacitated. Once Obito warps inside Kamui, remember that Rasengan to the face he took from Naruto's shadow clone? That will happen. So you can't call it a victory unless the person is knocked out.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Eh this is just a difference in opinion i guess.



- mokuton

- Water

- survives for years

- obito can't use kamui

He still sadly can't beat him. I knew some obito fan would try to bring him into this.



Not really, that is called a Mano e Mano duel 1 vs 1 , man to man duel. Just like "shinobi kamute" between Kakashi and Obito. Requires both to be on the field.

Thats why i don't even like using "summons" in fights between characters.

Okay then,so Obito faces someone 1 VS 1,why shouldn't he use his best jutsu to eliminate the threat early and with little to no risk for himself?Warping someone away where they can't escape and are at your mercy is a victory by any definition.

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Kamui someone and then bring them out into the middle of the ocean, or middle of the desert. Depending on who that person is, they will die within a few days or even hours. So Kamui can secure a victory.
Don't underestimate Kamui, it was shown that Kamui can even travel between the world of the dead and the living, teleport a living person to the world of the dead and lets see what happens.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Not to mention with the opponent trapped in Kamui land,Obito can deal with them any way he wants later.He put Fuu and Torune in a genjutsu after keeping them trapped in the dimension.

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

Then that gives him the win if they opponent dies .

of course . actually I don't see why Obito wouldn't use it besides the obvious reason 'plot' . not only is it faster to absorb smaller objects and require less chakra(the latter might be irrelevant), but it's also more lethal .

 

[KingHashirama]

Okay then,so Obito faces someone 1 VS 1,why shouldn't he use his best jutsu to eliminate the threat early and with little to no risk for himself?Warping someone away where they can't escape and are at your mercy is a victory by any definition.

its not eliminating the threat.. in a 1 vs 1 fight to find out who is the strongest... it'd be called avoiding the threat. Remember Kakashi vs Obito?? That was to find out who was the strongest.

Everytime Obito was in a fight, and "kamui" was mentioned as a reason for victory, it was usually on a objective basis. But not on a 1 vs 1 to determine who is the stronger on.

And they really aren't at your mercy, that would require them to beg. However, if that person takes their own life, you never were the winner mate. It can be taken that you avoided the fight, and the person got bored and commit suicide for you to use the technique again.

 

[Umari Senju]

Kamui someone and then bring them out into the middle of the ocean, or middle of the desert. Depending on who that person is, they will die within a few days or even hours. So Kamui can secure a victory.
Don't underestimate Kamui, it was shown that Kamui can even travel between the world of the dead and the living, teleport a living person to the world of the dead and lets see what happens.

Except Kamui doesn't teleport people to the land of the dead. I hate how people keep thinking that. If Obito transported Kakashi to the land of the dead then it would have been an adult Kakashi not the kid Kakashi we saw in the manga. What we saw was Obito's spirit/Chakra conversing with Kakashi's spirit.

That Kamui was an effect to respresent Obito's spirit travelling into Kakashi. Kakashi was never transported he was standing on the battlefield the entire time with his eyes closed so let's stop using that lame argument.

However I will give you the the 1st part. Yes, Obito can Kamui someone and then say drop them a few kilometers under the earth's crust so to speak. That would be considered a victory as his opponent would be phased right into the ground and most likely die.