Kamui =/=victory

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Ok I usually see people talking about Obito can Kamui so and so and then win. However, the only version of Kamui that allows obito to win in a fight is the one that Kakashi has.

So with just his normal kamui, even if he were to transport someone to the other dimension.. he really doesn't win the fight at all.

Its like Minato taking you to top of the mountain and then coming back down and saying he won. Even though he simply avoided the fight.

SO, IMO teleporting someone into a different place =/= Winning. Especially when the goal of the fight is to kill/ defeat your opponent.

Also, when obito teleports someone to his dimension.. doesn't that just mean he can't use the kamui again?
 

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I think a person who is trapped for eternity and starves to death has lost the fight
 

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I think a person who is trapped for eternity and starves to death has lost the fight

So you never really were able to beat the person.. tho. Just had to teleport them to a different place to avoid the fight.

And once they aren't on the same battlefield, the fight already ends, and thus no victor is assigned.
 

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banishing someone to another dimension isn't winning a fight? k

Is throwing you in a room and locking you in there during our fight = me winning? Or does it = me avoiding it?
no I beat them because my move trapped them and they cant escape from that trap. don't need to kill to win a fight.

Not really, they are still alive, they would probably die in a day or 2 from starvation.

This is just my opinion, that in a man to man fight running away from facing someone is not your victory.
 
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Sasuke used his hawk summoning in Kaguyas dimension. Which means if you're stuck inside Kamui you can use a reverse summoning to escape. Kamui is overrated.
 

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Is throwing you in a room and locking you in there during our fight = me winning? Or does it = me avoiding it?


Not really, they are still alive, they would probably die in a day or 2 from starvation.

This is just my opinion, that in a man to man fight running away from facing someone is not your victory.
Think of it as sealing, if the enemy can no longer harm you and has no way of escape then it's your victory.
 

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Sasuke used his hawk summoning in Kaguyas dimension. Which means if you're stuck inside Kamui you can use a reverse summoning to escape. Kamui is overrated.
So just the mere fact that people think winner of a 1 vs 1 fight where the goal is to kill each other = the person who TELEPORTED (not beaten) but moved to an another location annoys me.

Think of it as sealing, if the enemy can no longer harm you and has no way of escape then it's your victory.
Sealining isn't used on living ninja to beat them. Also sealing occurs on the battlefield, Sealing would be like me putting someone in a submission move, or tying up someone.
 
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Reverse Summon gg... every jutsu has a weak point you just have to find it thanks An Awesoome Senju for thst idea
 

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Only Itachi fans disagree with this XD

depends on who you take to the dimension . kakashi can use kumui to get back . itachi can just use tsukiyomi to control obito to make him take him back .
 

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Trapping someone in a dimension with no way out is winning by any definition.
 

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So just the mere fact that people think winning a 1 vs 1 fight where the goal is to kill each other = the person who TELEPORTED (not beaten) but moved to an another location annoys me.


Sealining isn't used on living ninja to beat them. Also sealing occurs on the battlefield, Sealing would be like me putting someone in a submission move, or tying up someone.

You must perfer a battle a REAL battle... I kinda agree
 

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So just the mere fact that people think winner of a 1 vs 1 fight where the goal is to kill each other = the person who TELEPORTED (not beaten) but moved to an another location annoys me.


Sealining isn't used on living ninja to beat them. Also sealing occurs on the battlefield, Sealing would be like me putting someone in a submission move, or tying up someone.

Trapping your enemy and them dying of starvation and dehydration is a form of victory used by armies for centuries.
 

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So you never really were able to beat the person.. tho. Just had to teleport them to a different place to avoid the fight.

That person died because I used my jutsu on him

And once they aren't on the same battlefield, the fight already ends, and thus no victor is assigned.

I dont know who assigned you to make up rules like that, because they are no such rules in NV, this isnt boxing where you fight in a ring

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Trapping someone in a dimension with no way out is winning by any definition.

Theirs 4 ways to leave Kamui Land so it's not like theirs no way out... and it's a technical win and a bich move
 
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