Madara's Mangekyou Abilities

[kaiyokoon]

What is the current speculation for Madara's mangekyou abilities? We have canon proof now that susanoo does not inherently imply having tsukuyomi and/or amaterasu, nor do we have any showings that even vaguely imply that madara has either of those so I think we can throw those out. I think the general consensus is that limbo is the result of his rinnegan or some conglomeration between the rinnegan and ems. So what are your ideas?

 

[sudota]

Limbo was the result of his SO6P chakra enhanced rinnegan.

 

[Sentinel of Light Style]

If that's the direction we're going, I'm guessing he has some other ability Kishi hasn't invented yet.

 

[Dark Riku]

Susanoo is the only MS/EMS ability that he has.

 

[kaiyokoon]

I would desperately like to believe that tengai shinsei is the result of his mangekyou ability, but it was obviously an actual jutsu and one that required susanoo already active no less and possibly the rinnegan in addition. But I can dream.

 

[xxxLegacy]

Susanoo is the only MS/EMS ability that he has.

He showed only Susanoo but you only gain Susanoo when you can use your both Eyes abilities. ...

Itachi = Tsúkyomí+Amaterasu= Susanoo
Kakashi= double Kamui = Susanoo
Sasuke= Amaterasu+ Ama control= Susanoo

Madara = ?????+?????= Susanoo

 

[Omar19992010]

It isn't cannon but in one of the Naruto games it was shown in the Madara vs Hashirama fight somehow reversed time for a short time. It isn't cannon and it's the fights completley different than in the anime.

 

[Sageof7Path]

Not as good as Kamui Intangibility and Perfect Susanoo that's for sure.

Current Kakashi solo's MS Madara and even EMS Madara.

 

[VongolaX]

Well Sasuke and Itachi have Amatersu because they're brothers, that seems like a valid explanation.

Obito's is kamui on both eyes, but one eye has phasing as such then comes his Susanoo.

Sasuke has double black flames, but one eye is complete control with his additional Susanoo as well.

Itachi is the only one with Tsukyomi and black in his eyes

So it's safe to say that Madara has not shown his mangekyo either.

 

[zachius]

He showed Obito his Tsukuyomi when he was talking about the infinite Tsukuyomi. Plus in the manga when he named their settlement Konoha, he was seen controlling amatarasu flame on the leaf he was holding but in the anime it was not shown.

 

[questin1]

Ugh are kinda slow?? Cause Madara stated that him and Sasuke had the same Sharigan as in the straight tamoe, which kinda makes me think since they are both the "same" person Indra that they should share the same MS and EMS abilities.

 

[kaiyokoon]

Ugh are kinda slow?? Cause Madara stated that him and Sasuke had the same Sharigan as in the straight tamoe, which kinda makes me think since they are both the "same" person Indra that they should share the same MS and EMS abilities.

I'm confused. You're calling me slow for not being aware of something that is only an assumption based on a statement Madara made that is entirely up to interpretation?

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

He showed only Susanoo but you only gain Susanoo when you can use your both Eyes abilities. ...

Itachi = Tsúkyomí+Amaterasu= Susanoo
Kakashi= double Kamui = Susanoo
Sasuke= Amaterasu+ Ama control= Susanoo

Madara = ?????+?????= Susanoo

Meteor + Limbo maybe?