Destiny>Hard work I AM SORRY

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destiny: the events that will necessarily happen to a particular person or thing in the future.


^^^^^ There is no such thing as "destiny" in Naruto. Unless people really want to tell me that if Naruto had given up.. he'd still be saving the world?

Destiny only works if the work is there.

PROPHECY is a different thing than destiny. Is a prediction. However, that prediction has both a negative and a positive. And can be changed.
 

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he worked and worked hes the same naruto just be cause hes a reincarnation does not mean he was distend he made up his own mind he could have easily been captured by pain if he had not made up his mind to avenge pervy sage cause he was depressed if he stayed depressed its not like he woke up one day and said hey i want to become a god.

no plus madara defied his destiny of being indra if he would have died like he should have then it would be destiny. that's like saying in the real world oh im going be rich one day could some rich mofo said so we humans work to surpass our predictors expecally if your handed everything on a silver platter you cant just live off money alone you would still have debuts to pay plus what the point of having a dream if you have it handed to you we work hard if we continue theirs no tell what break thought could happen we make our own destines not give them handed to us so shut your damn face you don't know anything about naruto if you say that

Naruto was destined to be Ashura's next incarnation, but that doesn't mean much. It just means he would have met the Sage at one point or another.

Naruto still had to work his ass off to be recognized or even liked in the village. He had to force himself to shrug off everyone's blind hatred towards him.

Naruto still had to work his ass off to make a name for himself as a ninja when all the odds were against him.

Naruto still had to work his ass off mastering techniques like the Rasengan.

Naruto still had to work hiss ass off perfecting Sage Mode.

Naruto still had to work his ass off developing a relationship with Kurama to the point where Kurama voluntarily would help him. Something that almost no other Bijuu do.

Everything I just stated had absolutely nothing to do with Naruto's Destiny. It had to do with Naruto's personality and his determination.

LOL like i said hard work is nothing, Naruto NEVER worked hard every single character in the series worked much harder then he ever did he was just getting free power ups from the kyuubi because every training he does the Kyuubi power outweights it, simple.

Destiny > Hard Work :coffee:
 

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naruto could have sat on his ass instead. he didnt. neji chose his fate of death. obito chose his time of death too.
 

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LOL like i said hard work is nothing, Naruto NEVER worked hard every single character in the series worked much harder then he ever did he was just getting free power ups from the kyuubi because every training he does the Kyuubi power outweights it, simple.

Destiny > Hard Work :coffee:

Log off!! :coffee:
 

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Log off!! :coffee:

Lee trained all day and everyday to get acknowledged but he can't be acknowledged because there's people like Naruto outshining him

Sakura trained three years and stored chakra to learn her "ultimate jutsu" but its just dust compared to Naruto's kyuubi power he got within mintues

Want more? Exactly you log off if you can't cope with the facts
 

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Lee trained all day and everyday to get acknowledged but he can't be acknowledged because there's people like Naruto outshining him

Sakura trained three years and stored chakra to learn her "ultimate jutsu" but its just dust compared to Naruto's kyuubi power he got within mintues

Want more? Exactly you log off if you can't cope with the facts

This just proves your an invalid.

Naruto spent his entire life training and working on Kyuubi chakra. He conquered his hatred at the Waterfall, he fought Kurama and took his chakra, among other instances of training to use the chakra from Jiraiya all his life, and he scrapped with the Bijuu to earn their respect. This is also among the amount of work he put into to using the Rasengan properly til he couldn't move his hand and nearly dying during Sage Mode training. You're a hater and a chump spewing lies and asspulls about SAKURA, ffs.

Naruto > your butthurt. Deal with it.
 

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Lee trained all day and everyday to get acknowledged but he can't be acknowledged because there's people like Naruto outshining him

Sakura trained three years and stored chakra to learn her "ultimate jutsu" but its just dust compared to Naruto's kyuubi power he got within mintues

Want more? Exactly you log off if you can't cope with the facts

Lee trained harder...that I agree!!
But Naruto trained far harder than sasuke ever could......only time Sasuke trained off panel was during the time skip, but Naruto did too...........Naruto worked his ass off to learn Rasengan when Sasuke was resting in Hospital.......Naruto worked his ass off while learning Rasenshuriken, and continued to work even after being injured......Naruto trained to gain his SM, unlike Sasuke and his MS.........Naruto trained to get his KCM, unlike Sasuke and his EMS.......Naruto has been fighting/training in this war far longer than Sasuke!! U_U
But what else would you expect from unreasonable Saucetards and their wankfest!! xd
 

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Ok so in an earlier thread about Naruto and Sasuke i have noticed that some people cannot accept desitiny>hardwork. In part 1 he worked his ass off how to get to were he was and he would preach give seminars about how destiny doesnt matter its all about what you do but in part 2 this is a lie.

I respected no LOVED AND IDOLISED part 1 Naruto because he could relate to so many people but now nah nah nah. He is the child of prophecy if he had sat on his arse all through part 1 it wouldnt matter because it was set in stone that he would change the world.

Then the whole Ashura thing. He was destined to be the reincarnation of the son of the so6p EVEN Sasuke dont get me wrong but at least he didnt preach about hardwork. The true hardworkers were Lee and Sakura albeit to a degree and they are FODDER LEVEL. Moral of the story.DESTINY IS O.P Agree or disagree¿


You know dude I actually took you seriously before in your other thread. Your sadly turning into a troll now. You got a choice you know? Don't like it don't read it.
 

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Lee trained harder...that I agree!!
But Naruto trained far harder than sasuke ever could......only time Sasuke trained off panel was during the time skip, but Naruto did too...........Naruto worked his ass off to learn Rasengan when Sasuke was resting in Hospital.......Naruto worked his ass off while learning Rasenshuriken, and continued to work even after being injured......Naruto trained to gain his SM, unlike Sasuke and his MS.........Naruto trained to get his KCM, unlike Sasuke and his EMS.......Naruto has been fighting/training in this war far longer than Sasuke!! U_U
But what else would you expect from unreasonable Saucetards and their wankfest!! xd

This just proves your an invalid.

Naruto spent his entire life training and working on Kyuubi chakra. He conquered his hatred at the Waterfall, he fought Kurama and took his chakra, among other instances of training to use the chakra from Jiraiya all his life, and he scrapped with the Bijuu to earn their respect. This is also among the amount of work he put into to using the Rasengan properly til he couldn't move his hand and nearly dying during Sage Mode training. You're a hater and a chump spewing lies and asspulls about SAKURA, ffs.

Naruto > your butthurt. Deal with it.

Unlike Naruto, Sasuke worked hard from the being to be talented it didn't come out nowhere, look at Obito he was a Uchiha but he wasn't talented he was branded as a "hopeless fool" by everyone while Kakashi was the talented one.

Since the beginging Sasuke worked hard to be acknowledged by his father, he learned and practised his jutsu's all his childhood to become the genius and talented kid every knows him as. Naruto never trained in his childhood he ran around playing pranks to get everyones attention.

It's like study all your life and someone comes up to you says its not far because your smart, hows that not fair? You studied all your life and someone who doesn't take education serious as you has the guts to come at you say "its because your smart" No one is born smart or talented, you develop your skill from the beginging to be known as one EVERYONE as the ability to become smart or talented you just have to set your mind to it.

Obito was a Uchiha who didn't take training seriously as Kakashi so Kakashi was the talented one while Sasuke worked hard throughout all his childhood to be labelled as talented he doesn't have a advantage he gained it
 

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Unlike Naruto, Sasuke worked hard from the being to be talented it didn't come out nowhere, look at Obito he was a Uchiha but he wasn't talented he was branded as a "hopeless fool" by everyone while Kakashi was the talented one.

Since the beginging Sasuke worked hard to be acknowledged by his father, he learned and practised his jutsu's all his childhood to become the genius and talented kid every knows him as. Naruto never trained in his childhood he ran around playing pranks to get everyones attention.

It's like study all your life and someone comes up to you says its not far because your smart, hows that not fair? You studied all your life and someone who doesn't take education serious as you has the guts to come at you say "its because your smart" No one is born smart or talented, you develop your skill from the beginging to be known as one EVERYONE as the ability to become smart or talented you just have to set your mind to it.

Obito was a Uchiha who didn't take training seriously as Kakashi so Kakashi was the talented one while Sasuke worked hard throughout all his childhood to be labelled as talented he doesn't have a advantage he gained it

Blah blah Blah......
Naruto too trained hard to become a Genin, but flunked three times because he didn't had the talent and there was no one to teach him. It his clear from Naruto and Hinata flashbacks that he used to train until he collapsed when he was in academy.
Mangafacts:
Naruto trained harder than Sasuke since the time Sasuke awakened the Sharingan.
Even Hagoromo agrees with this mangafact.
Kishi's mangafacts>>>>>> your Opinion!! xd
 
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Blah blah Blah......
Mangafacts:
Naruto trained harder than Sasuke since the time Sasuke awakened the Sharingan.
Even Hagoromo agrees with this mangafact.
Kishi's mangafacts>>>>>> your Opinion!! xd

Bring out the Kishi facts then because non of them is my own opinion

Sasuke trained throughout his childhood while Naruto didn't

He wasn't talented because of his clan if he was then Obito would been talented too
 
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You know dude I actually took you seriously before in your other thread. Your sadly turning into a troll now. You got a choice you know? Don't like it don't read it.

Ahah i wont lie this and my naruto sasuke thread were to troll but only because the fanboys make it to easy i mean why do people get so worked up over this stuff.
 

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Ahah i wont lie this and my naruto sasuke thread were to troll but only because the fanboys make it to easy i mean why do people get so worked up over this stuff.

Well its because each of us have a certain reason to like or dislike a certain character. Even if its fiction, we kinda like to relate to them to ourselves. Some get very much attached to them as if they're brother's or sister's. I mean there are tons of reasons.

You shouldn't troll for the sake of trolling. Make some proper threads so we could discuss about them.
 
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Well its because each of us have a certain reason to like or dislike a certain character. Even if its fiction, we kinda like to relate to them to ourselves. Some get very much attached to them as if they're brother's or sister's. I mean there are tons of reasons.

You shouldn't troll for the sake of trolling. Make some proper threads so we could discuss about them.

No i get that and i respect that my favourite character is Tobirama for his ideology etc but people start getting personal and stuff calling out each others mums etc its extreme.
 

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No i get that and i respect that my favourite character is Tobirama for his ideology etc but people start getting personal and stuff calling out each others mums etc its extreme.

Yeah that's needs to stop. Unfortunately we got some very immature members on this forum.
 

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I disagree, both of them did work hard. I can see if they were slackers and didn't even try and got their powers.
 
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