[Discussion] Sanji Vs "GOD" Enel

[Tomato God]

Plot defeated Crocodile.....Moriah and Buggy are the only weak ones.

No Luffy never Giving up Defeated a Cocky Scum bag who underestimates his enemies. All the Shichibukai think the same. Gecko isnt weak had he went with the thousand souls form to fight luffy he could have won. And If crocodile had made sure luffy was dead he would have won. And If DD had gone for a head shot he would have won.

 

[Luther]

Enel, mid difficulty if sanji pushes to his limits.

 

[Love Cook]

Plot defeated Crocodile.....Moriah and Buggy are the only weak ones.

Ah stop it man, plot this plot that.

If something doesn't go your way it's apparently plot.

You can't say that the entire first half of the grand line was just plot shield, welcome to shonen manga.

 

[The Great Second Hokage]

I'm going to have to say sanji....would be pretty close tho

 

[Olorin]

Why do you always have to write so much? :|.
OT: You are a fanboy because your not considering the destructive capabilities Enel's fruit can cause to Sanji....Lightning is 5 times hotter than the Sun. Haki or not Sanji is getting melted if he gets hit with a lightning bolt and you can use arguments to try and counter me by saying why didnt Enel do that to Luffy or his enemies on Skypea and my answer would be to you is "plot"U_U.....also I still think even Zoro might lose to Enel so nice try bringing up Zoro mate.

No its not just the potential danger Oda also stated if Enel was a pirate he would most certainly get an invitation to join the Shichibukai...so am I wrong to think that reflects his strength?

On average 3 out of cca 60 people struck by lightning in the UK die, aka even most normal humans survive a lightning strike, whereas no human can ever come even close to surviving kilometers under the sea (we would be crushed way before we ever even got close) so why are you assuming in all your posts that Sanji is a normal human who would be killed by lightning?

Btw Moria and Buggy are Shichibukai

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Is that an insult to your debating skills ?

Because that wasn't my intention. I couldn't find those to begin with even if i had Violet's devil fruit power.

Enel, low diff isn't a valuable contribution to this thread, so don't get sand in your vagina because I call you out on it on a discussion board.

I insulted no one when I said that they weren't trying. It's a fact.

I never ever said you were insulting anyone in that post :| I said it always ends up with you insulting people, which this post already shows xD you have already insulted me...for the simple reason I disagree with you. You are the one that seems to get so annoyed over an internet debate you insult anyone who disagrees with you.

The reason I put Enel low diff is because I thought it was obvious he wins :|
The only difficulty he has is Sanjis speed, he can avoid most of his attacks if he wants to by simply retracting into most surfaces and since he has the arc maxim (I think it was said he has it in this fight right?) he can just hide in that and sneak attacks Sanji from most places. If he doesn't and my memory is giving up on me. He should still be able to avoid fairly easily since his CoO is easily miles above Sanji and it's not like his attacks aren't going to do anything, they have been shown to be deadly.

 

[Love Cook]

I never ever said you were insulting anyone in that post :| I said it always ends up with you insulting people, which this post already shows xD you have already insulted me...for the simple reason I disagree with you. You are the one that seems to get so annoyed over an internet debate you insult anyone who disagrees with you.

The reason I put Enel low diff is because I thought it was obvious he wins :|
The only difficulty he has is Sanjis speed, he can avoid most of his attacks if he wants to by simply retracting into most surfaces and since he has the arc maxim (I think it was said he has it in this fight right?) he can just hide in that and sneak attacks Sanji from most places. If he doesn't and my memory is giving up on me. He should still be able to avoid fairly easily since his CoO is easily miles above Sanji and it's not like his attacks aren't going to do anything, they have been shown to be deadly.

So if its so easy for Enel to dodge attack, why did he got slapped around like a wet assh*le by Luffy, Gan fall and wiper.

People who are far weaker and slower than current sanji landed hits on him.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

So if its so easy for Enel to dodge attack, why did he got slapped around like a wet assh*le by Luffy, Gan fall and wiper.

People who are far weaker and slower than current sanji landed hits on him.

You will most likely bust a vein over this, the reason Luffy beat him was plot imo.
You can't deny the fact Enel can disappear into surfaces to evade some of Sanjis attacks.
He can then pop out and launch attacks at Sanji, granted Sanji has a decent level of CoO so he will have time to react, but it's only a matter of time till Enel's attacks hit him and it does sever damage.

 

[Red Swag]

sanji wins. enel sucks.

 

[Olorin]

You will most likely bust a vein over this, the reason Luffy beat him was plot imo.
You can't deny the fact Enel can disappear into surfaces to evade some of Sanjis attacks.
He can then pop out and launch attacks at Sanji, granted Sanji has a decent level of CoO so he will have time to react, but it's only a matter of time till Enel's attacks hit him and it does sever damage.

plot is canon, assumptions are not, Enel during the Skypiea arc could not defeat Sanji/Zoro if Zoro or Sanji, or even Wyper had just enough Haki to touch Enel during Skypiea they would at least come close to defeating him

everyone here is assuming Enel is OP based on his fruit but the simple fact SHOWN to us and (the plot) WRITTEN by Oda is that Enel is fodder that conveniently could not have been touched by anyone, his fruit is OP but he as a character is far from being in the high tiers

 

[Fireplay]

If the 3rd strongest guy in Luffy's crew cant beat fodder Enel who lost to pre-gears Luffy then i might aswell drop this manga because Luffy will never become PK.

Enel is garbage. Coby solos him. Don't bother replying to me if you haven't seen the special called "episode of Luffy" where we see TS Coby. Coby would mop the floor with Enel.

 

[WolfHaley]

Sanji wins mid-diff.

 

[WolfHaley]

Enel a fodder? youve got to be joking Lol Oda stated that if Enel was a pirate his bounty would be about the same as Ace's so yeah Enel is a fodder alright ......and Caribou fruit is no where near as powerful as Enel's so leave it mate. Sanji's haki would never touch Enel who is as fast as lightning.

Oda said that Enel would receive such a high bounty because of the destructive potential of his fruit, but that there are tons of guys who could defeat him.

I wish people who think bounty determines strength would remember Robin has a higher bounty than Sanji...

People think Enel lost purely to plot? Don't be idiots, Luffy's punches were too much for Enel, Enel, in his strongest form, said Luffy's final attack was too fast to evade. The ability to touch Enel is useless if your hits can't actually damage him. Pre-gear Luffy was fast enough and strong enough to damage Enel, if you think Post-Timeskip Sanji isn't strong enough and fast enough to damage Enel, your brain is worthless.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

plot is canon, assumptions are not, Enel during the Skypiea arc could not defeat Sanji/Zoro if Zoro or Sanji, or even Wyper had just enough Haki to touch Enel during Skypiea they would at least come close to defeating him

everyone here is assuming Enel is OP based on his fruit but the simple fact SHOWN to us and (the plot) WRITTEN by Oda is that Enel is fodder that conveniently could not have been touched by anyone, his fruit is OP but he as a character is far from being in the high tiers

Every vs thread is an assumption bro :|

Even if we take out my opinion on that,
correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't Luffy the only person who actually landed a hit on Enel? Everyone else got fodderised before they had the chance? Could be wrong.
The first hit Luffy landed on Enel was when Enel was absolutely in awe at the fact Luffy survived such a devastating attack, after that first attack Enels rhythm was obviously messed up, throughout the rest of the battle he was all over the place :/

 

[Fireplay]

Every vs thread is an assumption bro :|

Even if we take out my opinion on that,
correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't Luffy the only person who actually landed a hit on Enel? Everyone else got fodderised before they had the chance? Could be wrong.
The first hit Luffy landed on Enel was when Enel was absolutely in awe at the fact Luffy survived such a devastating attack, after that first attack Enels rhythm was obviously messed up, throughout the rest of the battle he was all over the place :/

Zoro, Sanji and even Wiper were able to hit Enel but all of their attacks slipped through.

Even that fodder Kamakiri landed a hit on Enel.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Zoro, Sanji and even Wiper were able to hit Enel but all of their attacks slipped through.

Even that fodder Kamakiri landed a hit on Enel.

Oh, fair enough then xD
Been a while since I read/watched Skypiea.

 

[WolfHaley]

Every vs thread is an assumption bro :|

Even if we take out my opinion on that,
correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't Luffy the only person who actually landed a hit on Enel? Everyone else got fodderised before they had the chance? Could be wrong.
The first hit Luffy landed on Enel was when Enel was absolutely in awe at the fact Luffy survived such a devastating attack, after that first attack Enels rhythm was obviously messed up, throughout the rest of the battle he was all over the place :/

Zoro, Wiper and Kaminari all got hits in because Enel is overconfident. Enel had ample time to get his rhythm back while Luffy had fallen off the Maxim with the golden ball on his arm, but Luffy's final attack was still faster than Enel, Luffy's punches were still able to hurt Enel. You think current Sanji wouldn't be fast enough to the same, or strong enough to hurt him? Enel's overconfidence might leave him to take a hit because he expects Sanji to pass through him. All it take is one Haki-infused kick, Sanji doesn't even need Diable Jambe.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Zoro, Wiper and Kaminari all got hits in because Enel is overconfident. Enel had ample time to get his rhythm back while Luffy had fallen off the Maxim with the golden ball on his arm, but Luffy's final attack was still faster than Enel, Luffy's punches were still able to hurt Enel. You think current Sanji wouldn't be fast enough to the same, or strong enough to hurt him? Enel's overconfidence might leave him to take a hit because he expects Sanji to pass through him. All it take is one Haki-infused kick, Sanji doesn't even need Diable Jambe.

*points to previous post*

 

[WolfHaley]

*points to previous post*

Like, one part of my post was part of your earlier post.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Like, one part of my post was part of your earlier post.

...what ?