Madara, Sasuke and Itachi fans only...

[Torche]

He was clearly alive when he sealed the fox, lmao read the manga...again. He died because he sealed everyone's chakra who was alive at the time there. Plus after the fox attempts to destroy the village, vs Obito, summoning jutsu, and all the FTGs.

That's when chakra actually mattered.

... The Shiki Fujin is a suicidal Fuinjutsu. He split the foxes chakra, half sealed in him (Which means certain death), half in Naruto with the Hakke no Fuuin Shiki.

 

[Im Still Robin]

This is still irrelevant. The Fox has to break his genjutsu. Which he won't. He hated Minato at the time. Not to mention he would have to be aware of the genjutsu. There is also the simple fact that Tsukyomi can't be broken by Minato or the fox.

@Bold You're so right, I'm stupid af, he won't even get a chance to use any of that, FTG. GG!

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

You kidding right?

I could also reverse this question to you, and ask you to give me feats of Minato that puts him above Itachi. Unfortunately I don't feel like digging up scans.

Until Minato showcases a feat greater than stopping the Edo Tensei then I will believe you. Until Minato showcases a feat that allows him to reverse being an Edo then I will believe you.

What exactly has Minato done besides failing to save his wife and child, which caused the nine tails to be dormant within Naruto for his whole life.

P.S. The only reason why you don't want hype included is because Itachi's hype would be greater than Minato's feats combined.

1. Perfected FTG
2. Created the Rasengan
3. Learned RDS and other complicated sealing techniques.
4. Saved the Shinobi alliance
5. Youngest Kage next to Gaara, who was only chosen because Suna is full of fodders
6. Analyzed Kamui rather easily.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

He isn't the strong type either, got solo'd before BM Naruto and EMS Sasuke, leh.
Also you can tell Itachi wasn't even born...hell I'm sure their parents wasn't even born yet.

Hashi wasn't at his full power,look at what Madara did when he was brought back to life fully for a example of what a live Hashirama would be capable of.

 

[Trúth]

@Bold You're so right, I'm stupid af, he won't even get a chance to use any of that, FTG. GG!

Lol except that he would be in the genjustu before he could think of FTG

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

(At bold) He saved the whole Ninja alliance from Juubito's attack...

And played a role in his defeat.

 

[PhantomChainGunner]

Hashi doesn't seem like the lying type.

Don't worry, He's too caught up in the manga to forget the episode 2 weeks ago where he clearly stated this.

 

[Complex]

Lol except that he would be in the genjustu before he could think of FTG

All Minato needs to do is not make eye contact, plus Itachi can't use it many times since it cause strains to his eyes

 

[Conspirator.]

Well, guess what? Itachi fooled me and you and all of us. had us thinking he was a villain to get naruto. niqqa coulda been got naruto man. nope. He was protecting Sasuke and the Leaf. Mind Blow. Not much of a colossal idiot or a brain dead fool.

@bold
What do you mean? He wasn't fooling us-because he WAS a villain the whole time. Only villains brutally torture innocent people for no reason, do nothing to stop corrupted governments, and also was involved in the murder of 7 jins, let Orochimaru go-all of which indirectly lead to the biggest war humanity has ever seen.

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

That doesn't prove sensing abilites. Everyone could sense that even Sasuke. The hell are you talking about? Itachi didn't put them under genjutsu. As a matter of fact they only realized Naruto was caught until when he asked for help.

Hashirama, Tobirama, and Minato are sensors, Hiruzen said nothing.
Ofc Sasuke can sense him, he has the Yin seal, while Naruto has the Yang.
My mistake about the others, but Naruto is terrible at gen, and your point is moot when trying to force it on Minato.

 

[Im Still Robin]

... The Shiki Fujin is a suicidal Fuinjutsu. He split the foxes chakra, half sealed in him (Which means certain death), half in Naruto with the Hakke no Fuuin Shiki.

Jap terms are confusing, use english...
You seriously think Minato would have suicide if Kishi didn't make him?
He used sealing sign with one hand...why would he suicide?

He would have surely died anyways because of the stab, but not by the seal if Kishi didn't @sspull.
None the less with or without Minato solos either way.

 

[Complex]

And played a role in his defeat.

^Yup this too

 

[Trúth]

All Minato needs to do is not make eye contact, plus Itachi can't use it many times since it cause strains to his eyes

It's like you can't read. Itachi doesn't start with Tsukyomi. His reg genjutsu is enough.

 

[lucario14]

When he was alive, he was drained of chakra. Why would he go to the afterlife with no chakra? If in the afterlife, he's a kid again, it's safe to assume he is also at peak performance, chakra and stamina wise. You don't see him out of breathing or breathing heavily, do you?

No it's not safe to assume he's at his peak performance when he's a kid.

Also assuming obito is a mass of chakra, how does he even use kamui? The sage met with sasuke and naruto via a mind space due to a linkage the sage had with the transmigrants of his sons. Obito had what kind of link with kakashi? I don't recall yhe sage using any techs to transport himself to them...

 

[Im Still Robin]

Lol except that he would be in the genjustu before he could think of FTG

You're right, he would of been speed blitzed, not even FTG is needed. Like he did Kakashi. Thanks again :3

 

[Torche]

@bold
What do you mean? He wasn't fooling us-because he WAS a villain the whole time. Only villains brutally torture innocent people for no reason, do nothing to stop corrupted governments, and also was involved in the murder of 7 jins, let Orochimaru go-all of which indirectly lead to the biggest war humanity has ever seen.

Well, Hiruzen must be a villain too. He let the Uchiha massacre proceed. He gave Itachi the mission to SPY on the Akatsuki. He LET Orochimaru escape.

 

[Trúth]

Hashirama, Tobirama, and Minato are sensors, Hiruzen said nothing.
Ofc Sasuke can sense him, he has the Yin seal, while Naruto has the Yang.
My mistake about the others, but Naruto is terrible at gen, and your point is moot when trying to force it on Minato.

Looks like i'll have to repeat myself. Everyone could sense Naruto. Oro could, Sasuke could,(before the seal) jugo could. karin(sensor) could. As for the genjustu Itachi has already been stated and shown to be able to trap you without suspicion.

 

[Complex]

Hashirama, Tobirama, and Minato are sensors, Hiruzen said nothing.
Ofc Sasuke can sense him, he has the Yin seal, while Naruto has the Yang.
My mistake about the others, but Naruto is terrible at gen, and your point is moot when trying to force it on Minato.

But that was before they got the seal, plus who cares if hiruzen didn't say anything, we don't need to waste anymore panels on the same thing

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[PhantomChainGunner]

@bold
What do you mean? He wasn't fooling us-because he WAS a villain the whole time. Only villains brutally torture innocent people for no reason, do nothing to stop corrupted governments, and also was involved in the murder of 7 jins, let Orochimaru go-all of which indirectly lead to the biggest war humanity has ever seen.

Oh so you think he's an idiot for killing his clan too? Haven't you ever heard of the wrong things for the right reasons? It was publically wrong but personally it was right. He couldn't really act on his own until he left the village. He had to make himself seem devoted to Akatsuki by carrying out their plans while keeping up with his own. And who has he brutally tortured that was innocent? Sasuke? Lol

 

[Complex]

It's like you can't read. Itachi doesn't start with Tsukyomi. His reg genjutsu is enough.

I can read, plus I thought you were all talking about Tsukuyomi