Kaguya isn't using chakra arms

[AGoodBoy]

*this is for those who haven't notice or figured it out yet(me)*

In fact, I doubt she knows what they even are -- seeing as she has no control over her bijuu. The attacks she uses definitely doesn't resemble chakra arms, that's for sure.
She's using gentle fist, that's why she's ripping through sasuke's susano'o like butter with it. She's using

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. Neji already stated back in P1 that gentle fist destroys anything made of chakra.

Edit: Kaguya's extremely fast. When she moves her hands at top speed, she can most likely reach or exceed guy's

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[hand] speed. Her vacuum palm therefore sends out a much more visible impression of pressurized air due to the added power boost from the sheer speed of her thrust. When kaguya Punches + vaccuum palm, it looks like

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; whereas, if she keeps still and uses it, it looks like

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. If you look carefully, the jutsu looks almost exactly like night elephant, except shaped like a fist. Don't mistake her for a weak little hyuga.

so why can't she destroy naruto's chakra cloak? Plot. everything is plot. global warming is plot.

 

[Sound]

Hakke Kusho doesnt leave a thick trail of chakra like last chapter. And they don't have chakra arm marks.

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[Gerkak]

hmm. If I am not mistaken, vaccume palm is invisble to thoes who don't have dojutsu and isn't shaped into fists. Based on her attacks characteristics, it resembles chakra arms more than it does vacume palm.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

They are obviously chakra arm.

 

[riley freeman]

We really cant tell yet, i thought it was like an absorption tech

 

[Young Thug]

yeah, thing is.. her Byakugan wasn't activated.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Hakke Kusho doesnt leave a thick trail of chakra like last chapter. And they don't have chakra arm marks.

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You're implying a weak little hyuga is using it. Kaguya's far faster and more powerful, she can leave a more defined imprint of pressurized air.

Either way, chakra arms don't look like that. At all. Nothing in the manga looks like that except night elephant. night elephant is basically a brute force vaccuum palm.

hmm. If I am not mistaken, vaccume palm is invisble to thoes who don't have dojutsu and isn't shaped into fists. Based on her attacks characteristics, it resembles chakra arms more than it does vacume palm.

Again, chakra arms look nothing like that. There's no chakra arm that's just a random fist in midair attached to nothing.
High speed motion(like with night elephant) + vaccuum palm leaves a better imprint.

 

[AGoodBoy]

They are obviously chakra arm.

Find one scan where any chakra arm remotely looked like anything kaguya's doing. No chakra arm randomly starts in mid air.

We really cant tell yet, i thought it was like an absorption tech

It's not an absorption technique. No absorption attack looks like waves of chakra.

yeah, thing is.. her Byakugan wasn't activated.

what's the

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for, then?

 

[Sound]

You're implying a weak little hyuga is using it. Kaguya's far faster and more powerful, she can leave a more defined imprint of pressurized air.

Either way, chakra arms don't look like that. At all. Nothing in the manga looks like that except night elephant. night elephant is basically a brute force vaccuum palm.

No you are completely wrong. The air palm is compressed air which mimics the air pressure.
Kaguya doesnt have anatomically 4 hands on one arm to create 4 miniature chakra air palms.
It's clearly a chakra arm as shown even in the figure I provided above ,
it's a chakra arm shaped into a fist like Naruto.
And here, clearly one hand 4 chakra arms not 4 palms on one arm.

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[Migster257]

All I saw from this thread was how Kakashi basically speed blitzes Gai in his PS considering how he speed blitzed those arms.

 

[AGoodBoy]

No you are completely wrong. The air palm is compressed air which mimics the air pressure.
Kaguya doesnt have anatomically 4 hands on one arm to create 4 miniature chakra air palms.
It's clearly a chakra arm as shown even in the figure I provided above ,
it's a chakra arm shaped into a fist like Naruto.
And here, clearly one hand 4 chakra arms not 4 palms on one arm.

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Like I stated in the thread, that's concentrated blasts of chakra; They're not chakra palms, nor are they vaccuum palms. Just because there are 4 doesn't automatically mean they're chakra arms either. Kaguya's faster than 8th gate guy(outside of night guy) by quite a bit; she can through out many punches in a few seconds. As neji said, you can

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to destroy things made of chakra. Then, finally, he states he can

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(meaning kaguya can send out waves from her entire palm instead of just her fingers). [

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The problem you're having is that you're thinking on the level of an average hyuuga. A hyuuga's power is to Kaguya what a lightbulb is to the sun. Any hyuuga technique kaguya uses would be of an unimaginably higher level by default. She hasn't even shown any chakra control to moderate her use of her chakra.

BTW, chakra arms look like this[

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]. They're attached to a layer of chakra surrounding the user because they originate from the user. Kaguya never has chakra around her while doing these moves, nor are they attached to her, hence they're not chakra arms in the slightest. In fact, just look at the significant difference in what naruto was doing(chakra arms) and what kaguya was doing.[

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] They look nothing alike. Naruto's chakra arms are attached to his left arm while kaguya's vaccuum palms(fists?) are just spawning in mid air.

 

[AGoodBoy]

*double post*

 

[Seventh Sama]

I guess, You're right. Tho she doesn't need control over the bijuu's since they're her chakra in the first place.
She just has bad chakra control (I assume)....

 

[Sound]

ˆˆ No just no. I think you are just trying really hard to convince yourself into that.
The fists are exactly as Rikoudou Naruto chakra fists.
So Naruto has Hakke Kusho now ? Dat Naruto

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Obito Hakke Kusho ?

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Dat Obito


Clearly they are the same chakra fists/arms Naruto uses.

 

[AGoodBoy]

I guess, You're right. Tho she doesn't need control over the bijuu's since they're her chakra in the first place.
She just has bad chakra control (I assume)....

Wasn't trying to say she needed control, just that she doesn't have any so she wouldn't even know how to use chakra arms.
She most likely has bad chakra control; Chakra control most likely came during the time of ninjutsu so ninja could fight longer on their stock. A lot of the ninja advancements are wayyyyyy beyond her time.

ˆˆ No just no. I think you are just trying really hard to convince yourself into that.
The fists are exactly as Rikoudou Naruto chakra fists.
So Naruto has Hakke Kusho now ? Dat Naruto

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Obito Hakke Kusho ?

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Dat Obito

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Clearly they are the same chakra fists/arms Naruto uses.

Stop trying to deflect and just look at what I'm telling you to look at jeez. Kaguya's vacuum palm mimic'd a fist, so did naruto's whoopty doo. Now look at the originating point.
Chakra palms originate from the users body, not thin air. Try to understand that simple fact before you argue with someone.

 

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Okay Naruto is using Hakke Kusho Lol

 

[AGoodBoy]

Okay Naruto is using Hakke Kusho Lol

I'll try to explain it to you slowly.

Naruto has 2 hands. Kaguya's throwing hundreds of punches at a time.

Naruto throws a chakra punch at kaguya. He then throws another. Both his hands are now occupied.
Naruto has to cut off the chakra from hand 1 and throw another punch. He then cuts off the chakra from hand 2 and throws another punch.
Naruto repeats the above 2 processes multiple times.
The chakra from previous punches linger for a few seconds because shit just doesn't up and instantly disappear, so there are still fists showing in the air. Same with kaguya, her previous vaccuum punches are lingering in the air; she didn't through 100 in 1 instance.
However, there is clear evidence that what naruto and kaguya are doing is different because naruto has a very clear origin point of his attacks around his hands, while kaguya's attacks simply appear all over the place from thin air.

Hope that helps.

 

[Ultimateone]

the thing you are forgetting is that, for the most part chakra arms are just huge concentrations of chakra. when naruto uses chakra arms, he is using a concentration of chakra in the shape of arms and fist. whether or not she decides to shape them is irrelevant. the fact remains she is using a technique that is basically the same thing as chakra arms.

now when she had her hands out and we see naruto's clones flying back, sure, thats an air palm tech i guess. but what she used on sasuke to break his susano was basically chakra arms without much shape manipulation, so it just looks like she just shoot a stream of chakra out. but it doesn't matter either way.

 

[AGoodBoy]

the thing you are forgetting is that, for the most part chakra arms are just huge concentrations of chakra. when naruto uses chakra arms, he is using a concentration of chakra in the shape of arms and fist. whether or not she decides to shape them is irrelevant. the fact remains she is using a technique that is basically the same thing as chakra arms.

now when she had her hands out and we see naruto's clones flying back, sure, thats an air palm tech i guess. but what she used on sasuke to break his susano was basically chakra arms without much shape manipulation, so it just looks like she just shoot a stream of chakra out. but it doesn't matter either way.

Chakra arms originate from the body.
Chakra arms are also attached to the body.
Chakra arms don't destroy chakra.

Most importantly, Kaguya's a hyuugahas a byakugan and has already been showcasing hyuuga moves, not jinchuriki moves.

 

[Rogerr]

How do you know? Did she call you and tell you?