DMS Kakashi and BSM Minato vs Naruto and Sasuke

[genii96]

Obito synchronized kamui to it then warped with her to the main dimension. She thought he came in with her meaning he executed the sync and the warp before her portal closed.

You're speculating. His condition matters not since it won't be his condition after using a much smaller kamui on Le sauce's susanno.

he synchronized with it,then warped HIMSELF AND THOSE TOUCHING HIM to that dimension,he didnt warp any far object. You cant use double kamui on an object on a distance because one of his eyes can warp only close ranged things.
Cloak gave him a 3x boost,not enough to warp the juubi the size of a mountain

 

[Haizaki]

Smh Now people are underrating Sasuke. He stomps in both and so does Naruto.

 

[Strict]

U tell me why both of Obito's eyes were bleeding when he used long range Kamui, then we continue dis.

 

[KidGamer65]

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the longer it takes to charge not warp
tell that to onnoki's jinton srry I meant the portal never said it was only said kamui is faster than it..speculation?

Actually that's the second time she did that. So this is a poor excuse. Either way kamui out speeds it.

Not when Kakashi can fly to. As I already said his catching him on the rinne cooldown.

-That scan doesn't show the warp being instant, it shows the opposite. The charging takes place before the actual warping so what was being shown was the warping. Obito saving Sasuke from Jinton doesn't prove that Kamui is instant either.

-Wrong, Kamui isn't faster than the portal. That is instantaneous teleporatation, and no its not speculation.

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Kamui isn't faster than that nor has it shown to be faster than that.

And no, she went into the portal herself the first time, this time she only stuck her hand in it, something that Sasuke didn't think she could do. So its not a poor excuse. And no, Kamui never outsped her travel time through the portal, which is instant. Entering the portal isn't instant so using that as a basis for your comparison is moot.

Kakashi being able to fly doesn't make his Kamui any faster, and if Sasuke teleports to evade them and teleports to blitz strike them, the second Kamui won't happen.

 

[Bogard]

U tell me why both of Obito's eyes were bleeding when he used long range Kamui, then we continue dis.

Because he was trying to reach a far away and in complete unrelated dimension to his own

 

[Unorthodox]

They both solo you must have thought Kakashi and nem could win huh?

Sasuke Perfect Susanoo tanks anything even a charged bijuu dama with ease he is far faster than kakashi he turns his susanoo to paste plus larger chakra so if Kakashi hides in Kamui all day he just gets outlasted.

Naruto i dont even think he needs an explanation

 

[BenjerminGaye]

he synchronized with it,then warped HIMSELF AND THOSE TOUCHING HIM to that dimension,he didnt warp any far object. You cant use double kamui on an object on a distance because one of his eyes can warp only close ranged things.
Cloak gave him a 3x boost,not enough to warp the juubi the size of a mountain

Him warping himself is slower than him warping others as stated by by konan. Him warpin himself and others would be even slower and long range kamui is the fastest out of the 3 abilities. Yet he managed to execute the slowest possible thing (himself and others) before her portal closed. It was single kamui that did the warping double that did the syncro. Yet all forms is faster than kaguya's portal.

It's vastly greater than x3 (the non visible cloak gave him x 3) I only use x3 as bare minimum. If anything based on what the sa showed it's over x10. Nevertheless kakashi is a modest person yet he said he can do it. I don't doubt him. Obito doesn't doubt him (stopped him b4 he did it) and considering sasuke's susanoo is smaller it's well within his ability.

 

[moihican]

U tell me why both of Obito's eyes were bleeding when he used long range Kamui, then we continue dis.

you mean when he was opening dimensional pathways to another dimension different from his own?.
When you learn the difference between warping something to your dimension(long ranged kamui) and connecting two different dimensions together then you can talk

 

[BenjerminGaye]

-That scan doesn't show the warp being instant, it shows the opposite. The charging takes place before the actual warping so what was being shown was the warping. Obito saving Sasuke from Jinton doesn't prove that Kamui is instant either.

-Wrong, Kamui isn't faster than the portal. That is instantaneous teleporatation, and no its not speculation.

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Kamui isn't faster than that nor has it shown to be faster than that.

And no, she went into the portal herself the first time, this time she only stuck her hand in it, something that Sasuke didn't think she could do. So its not a poor excuse. And no, Kamui never outsped her travel time through the portal, which is instant. Entering the portal isn't instant so using that as a basis for your comparison is moot.

Kakashi being able to fly doesn't make his Kamui any faster, and if Sasuke teleports to evade them and teleports to blitz strike them, the second Kamui won't happen.

I'm not talking about the picture I'm talking about the word's. It says in that scan instant. Therefore it is.
The kaguya's portal isn't instant. Especially since kaguya already voiced concerns of ppl following her into it.

Kamui already outsped it when obito synchronized with it after it opened then used kamui to reach the destination before it closed.

Don't grasp at straws now. It was a partial jump no matter how you slice it.

Kakashi being able to fly means he can stay out of kakashi's st range when he gets ready to snipe him.

 

[KidGamer65]

I'm not talking about the picture I'm talking about the word's. It says in that scan instant. Therefore it is.
The kaguya's portal isn't instant. Especially since kaguya already voiced concerns of ppl following her into it.

Manga explicitly shows that Kamui isn't instant, I don't care what the databook says, especially since Kamui wasn't even that fast back then let alone instant. Don't try and play this nonsense game here buddy.

People being able to follow her into the portal doesn't mean that its not instant. The traveling time when you've already entered the portal is instant, anything else before and after isn't, nor is it relevant as that isn't what is being discussed here.

Kamui already outsped it when obito synchronized with it after it opened then used kamui to reach the destination before it closed.

What are you even talking about? The portal being opened and closed isn't anything special. Out speeding that isn't a feat so why you are mentioning it

Don't grasp at straws now. It was a partial jump no matter how you slice it.

Going into the portal completely and appearing behind the target=/=Partial jump. How in the world is it a partial jump when she went in completely, lmfao.

Kakashi being able to fly means he can stay out of kakashi's st range when he gets ready to snipe him.

That doesn't change the fact that he can still dodge Kamui with his Rinnegan.

 

[Jimihendrix]

either Naruto or sasuke solo.

Sasuke's shunshin is currently better than theirs, and his cooldown only seems to be a few seconds. Minato will be tricky, but Sasuke's superior reflexes should eventually strike him down. and his swapping ability should be his trump card.

Where sasuke's will be med-hard diff, Naruto's would most likely be low diff

 

[ARGUS]

and the wank continues
Either naruto or sasuke would buttrape these clowns

 

[ARGUS]

This is pretty funny. I think you deserve a comedian award for that.

No you deserve a ''fapboy award'' if you think these guys can take on people with the sages power

Kakashi and fanfic minato take it.
Minato gives kakashi BM cloak, kakashi spams kamui and PS to high heaven.

No they do not,
Kakashi getting a cloak is not doing shit
since both of them can react to his kamui and Minatos FTG with ease,
all naruto needs is few TBBRS and they are done for,
Sasuke can also butcher them with his PS,

 

[genii96]

Him warping himself is slower than him warping others as stated by by konan. Him warpin himself and others would be even slower and long range kamui is the fastest out of the 3 abilities. Yet he managed to execute the slowest possible thing (himself and others) before her portal closed. It was single kamui that did the warping double that did the syncro. Yet all forms is faster than kaguya's portal.

It's vastly greater than x3 (the non visible cloak gave him x 3) I only use x3 as bare minimum. If anything based on what the sa showed it's over x10. Nevertheless kakashi is a modest person yet he said he can do it. I don't doubt him. Obito doesn't doubt him (stopped him b4 he did it) and considering sasuke's susanoo is smaller it's well within his ability.

except when both eyes are used to warp the same person,the speed is doubled as we saw with kakashi and obito,infact it surpasses the speed of the goudama.
Kaguya's portal is not fast,it opens,she goes through it,then it closes,he synced when she opened it,then double kamuid when she went through it,nothing special.

Kakashi also said he would warp 5 bijudamas,yet didnt say he would die,gai did. Even if it was x20 it still wont be enough,i dont think you get how big the juubi is.

Warping something the size of that susanoo will take a little time to prep,something which he dosent have,and to warp the full susanoo he needs to have the full susanoo in his sight,which is difficult since sasuke will be up close.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

except when both eyes are used to warp the same person,the speed is doubled as we saw with kakashi and obito,infact it surpasses the speed of the goudama.
Kaguya's portal is not fast,it opens,she goes through it,then it closes,he synced when she opened it,then double kamuid when she went through it,nothing special.

Kakashi also said he would warp 5 bijudamas,yet didnt say he would die,gai did. Even if it was x20 it still wont be enough,i dont think you get how big the juubi is.

Warping something the size of that susanoo will take a little time to prep,something which he dosent have,and to warp the full susanoo he needs to have the full susanoo in his sight,which is difficult since sasuke will be up close.

Thats not how double speed works. Not to mention he can't go double speed since he's warping others with him. It doesn't matter is if you think it isn't fast since it was fast enough to catch sasuke by surprise. You're also incorrect on the notion that he went through her portal. He only synced with it when it was open. The sync gives him access to her dimensions but in order to travel through it he still has to use his kamui hence the swirl pattern.

I'll give you a time line of how it went down.
Kaguya opens portal to escape clones
Obito syncs with her portal
Obito uses kamui
Both arrive in the other dimension at the same time.

The reason I know is because kaguya herself thought she came in with them via her portal when in fact they got there do to kamui.


Seeing as how he proceeded to use kamui 6 times after he made that statement (along with other chakra taxing techs) I don't doubt his ability to warp all 5.
No it was more than enough. Hence why obito stopped him. It doesn't change susanoo being smaller than juubi and cloak he's receiving being superior to the one he said he'd warp the juubi with.

Prep time can easily be achieved through ftg jumping/ flying/ and going ghost via the other eye. And no he'll be keeping his distance since he doesn't want to get caught by sasuke's st.

 

[SuperChief]

Naruto > Kakashi
Minato > Sasuke
Naruto > Minato

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Naruto > Kakashi
Minato > Sasuke
Naruto > Minato

Much logic. So skill.

 

[DHOH]

Naruto > Kakashi
Minato > Sasuke
Naruto > Minato

More like:
Naruto > Kakashi
Kakashi > Sasuke
Sasuke > minato

 

[SuperChief]

Much logic. So skill.

Current Sasuke has no feats that can beat Bijū Mode.

More like:
Naruto > Kakashi
Kakashi > Sasuke
Sasuke > minato

Get the f-ck outta here. Sasuke utterly stomps Kakashi into a red splotch. Minato is the difficult fight that he'll lose. Naruto stomps both Kakashi and Minato 1v1.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Current Sasuke has no feats that can beat Bijū Mode.



Get the f-ck outta here. Sasuke utterly stomps Kakashi into a red splotch. Minato is the difficult fight that he'll lose. Naruto stomps both Kakashi and Minato 1v1.

Tell that to kid gamer.