Poll: Biggest asspull in the the manga?

[KisuneUchiha]

Yes, it definitely the biggest asspull known to man.

I don't care what anyone says from this point on. Kakashi receiving PS was completely asinine, especially considering the fact that Kakashi was one of the main characters in this manga that somewhat acted like a ninja and didn't go off the handle with overpowered explosions, like mediocre techniques (nothing too extravagant) , deceptive and creative battle styles, as opposed to everyone else who started to pull these overpowered techniques from their ass and completely ruin the main theme of "ninja".
Kishimoto completely ruined this character, which further proves my point that he is an incompetent author who lacks consistency. Kishimoto fell off the deep end and I don't think he can redeem himself after this shit that I have seen today.

Another thing that irritated me was the fact that Kakashi just literally just pissed all over the Uchiha pride and development! Madara, Sasuke and Itachi all progressed with their lineage when it comes to their blood line and then Kakashi comes in, in like fcking 2 minutes and summons a PS. Madara and Sasuke needed EMS just to achieve PS. Then suddenly Kakashi, who receives a pair of rotted MS eyes, pulls out PS. Where did the chakra come from? How can he even sustain such a huge entity when he's not blood related? What was all of Sasuke and Madaras work for?

If we go by anime, Madara got it at MS lol

 

[Untamed]

Yea I remember Lee's face when he saw that. Even Naruto was able to copy it next. Kakashi was notorious for it either way. The thing which unsettled many because it was Sasuke's ability this time around. Most reaction from fans is on his half. xP

yeah and even Sasuke imagining Lee's movements and copying his "weights removed speed" by training with Kakashi although he was unconscious during the whole Lee vs Gaara fight :O

Can't comprehend that a non-Uchiha "copied" a technique that can't be copied, then instantly stabilized it while two actual Uchihas took a long time to be able to stabilize said technique?

we don't know how long he'll be able to maintain it yet, but look at it like he was given it as a power-up .. he did get his new powers from the former juubi jinchuriki .. Obito should have died a long time ago after having the juubi ripped out, but he held in their up til last chapter. Obito & Naruto were both like Hagoromo , they can make things happen that aren't "supposed" to happen.
Remember Obito never awakened 1 tomoe sharingan, he just skipped 1 and went straight to 2tomoe.

 

[Complex]

Please.......Kishi still hasn't explained how Madara could use Susanoo without eyes and Kamui despite getting Kakashi's eye in a split second and being A Juubi Jin.What makes you think he'll bother explaining stuff now?

First of all the manga isn't over lol, and remember the time when everyone was going crazy about when Kakashi got hit by a senpou rasengan, well it got answered the next chapter. You guys just please learn to be patient, like when the manga ends, and your question hasn't been answered, then you can complain.

 

[FoolzBeWeary]

Madara beating Edos release was the biggest one.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

First of all the manga isn't over lol, and remember the time when everyone was going crazy about when Kakashi got hit by a senpou rasengan, well it got answered the next chapter. You guys just please learn to be patient, like when the manga ends, and your question hasn't been answered, then you can complain.

I am patient,I just don't see Kishi answering any of the things I've brought up.I guarantee you that Kishi won't explain anything that's not a major plotpoint.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

The sharingan has only ever copied body movements and handsigns(for jutsu). So copying Susanoo(which requires none of those things) shouldn't be possible. I don't actually think Kakashi literally "copied" Sasuke's PS, but he actually unlocked it himself.(thanks to Obito's power). Still him using PS immediately is far fetched.

Not just far fetched bro, plain retarded. And he's doing BS like this just when the manga is about to be finished. I definitely didn't want a bitter ending. I had great expectations from Kaguya arc, now Kishimoto washed it down to the drain :/

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Madara beating Edos release was the biggest one.

He knew the seals to end the Edo contract.

 

[hixa kuogame]

Can't comprehend that a non-Uchiha "copied" a technique that can't be copied, then instantly stabilized it while two actual Uchihas took a long time to be able to stabilize said technique?

What makes susano'o unable to be copied? If you have all the requirements you can copy a technique if it's a kekkei genkai. Kakashi copied the formation of the perfect susano'o after seeing it whereas Sasuke and Madara never had anything to copy.

 

[Complex]

I am patient,I just don't see Kishi answering any of the things I've brought up.I guarantee you that Kishi won't explain anything that's not a major plotpoint.

You might be right, but we'll have to see

 

[FoolzBeWeary]

He knew the seals to end the Edo contract.

It's an asspull the dead making a contract with himself. That's an asspull.

 

[Darkakatsuki]

I know this. My point is that, IF you have the neccessary requirments such as Senju DNA or, in Kakashi's case, Obito's chakra and mangekyo sharingans, then he can copy and perform mangekyo sharingan techniques. There should be no reason as to why he can't.

Low level Mokuton techniques? all the techniques you listed were top rank techniques. the only reason why he didn't use the Buddha statue was because it requires sage mode, which was the only thing Madara did not have.

You're not saying anything contrary to what I'm stating.

That's pure bull! Why didn't Madara copy Obito's kamui then? He trained Obito himself and proved that he had intel on kamui when he clashed with Obito and Kakashi. And still, he had to steal Obito's eye from Kakashi in order to use Kamui. If manyeko techniques could be copied, Madara would have copied Kamui instead of stealing Kakashi's eye. Why didn't Obito copy amateresu from Sasuke and Itachi if manyeko techniques can be copied? This is clear as daylight bull!

 

[Hiraishin Stage 3]

I remember people raging when kakashi's kamui swallowed the hachibi whole lol, its the same except 10 times more intense

 

[WolfHaley]

What makes susano'o unable to be copied? If you have all the requirements you can copy a technique if it's a kekkei genkai. Kakashi copied the formation of the perfect susano'o after seeing it whereas Sasuke and Madara never had anything to copy.

Because Kekkei Genkai were explicitly stated to be uncopyable. Besides, who said he copied it? Naruto. How the **** does HE know what happened?

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

It's an asspull the dead making a contract with himself. That's an asspull.

No it isn't,there are ways to break Edo Tensei's control,either through will power or a jutsu that overrides the caster's commands.Madara was one of the few who knew how to break the contract and waited for the right opportunity to do so.

 

[Avani]

That's pure bull! Why didn't Madara copy Obito's kamui then? He trained Obito himself and proved that he had intel on kamui when he clashed with Obito and Kakashi. And still, he had to steal Obito's eye from Kakashi in order to use Kamui. If manyeko techniques could be copied, Madara would have copied Kamui instead of stealing Kakashi's eye. Why didn't Obito copy amateresu from Sasuke and Itachi if manyeko techniques can be copied? This is clear as daylight bull!

Kamui is not manifested visually. The user moves away. Copying a form of something which can be seen physically is different.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

I remember people raging when kakashi's kamui swallowed the hachibi whole lol, its the same except 10 times more intense

Who raged?

 

[hixa kuogame]

Please.......Kishi still hasn't explained how Madara could use Susanoo without eyes and Kamui despite getting Kakashi's eye in a split second and being a Juubi Jin.What makes you think he'll bother explaining stuff now?

Sigh..
Susano'o can be used without the eyes themself.. Itachi used sasano'o blind and the susano'o itself isn't emitted from the eyes, it's released from the body:

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In the Viz translation, it was clarified that the juubi-jin could only not phase, teleportation is a diffrent case.

 

[FoolzBeWeary]

No it isn't,there are ways to break Edo Tensei's control,either through will power or a jutsu that overrides the caster's commands.Madara was one of the few who knew how to break the contract and waited for the right opportunity to do so.

Oh really was it stated before he did it? No so it's a cover up on an asspull. Sorry but making a contract with himself to keep him in this world is an asspull. Things that are summoned need a contact to stay. So he had to break it and make a contract with himself to stay that's an asspull.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Sigh..
Susano'o can be used without the eyes themself.. Itachi used sasano'o blind and the susano'o itself isn't emitted from the eyes, it's released from the body:

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In the Viz translation, it was clarified that the juubi-jin could only not phase, teleportation is a diffrent case.

Okay then how come Madara could use Kamui right off the bat after justing getting Kakashi's eye?Not even Obito could teleport immediately after unlocking his MS.

Edit:I think you have the wrong scan.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Oh really was it stated before he did it? No so it's a cover up on an asspull. Sorry but making a contract with himself to keep him in this world is an asspull. Things that are summoned need a contact to stay. So he had to break it and make a contract with himself to stay that's an asspull.

Hashirama broke the contract...what makes you think it's a asspull that Madara could?