Sasuke's spot light is gone

[Jimihendrix]

Yet you and him think KCM is equal to EMS.


Bold is false KCM have nothing to beat EMS Sasuke BM loses BSM is equal to EMS Sasuke with PS. Some Naruto fans even admit this but you guys are just denial.

EMS Sasuke having the Perfect Susanoo we've seen him use against kaguya is fanfic. EMS Sasuke never used PS. stop living in denial and thinking sasuke is relevant.

Like I said, Sasuke serves as a good second place

 

[shelke]

power up wise

ms = sm
ems = naruto cloak
ems susanno(which is just legged susanno) = kcm

naruto got a added power up yet sasuke got nothing.

see? Lol bsm tied with V3 + senjutsu ems sasuke doesnt have senjutsu he got that from juugo. meaning his senjutsu enhanced v3 gets downgraded to a regular v3 while naruto stays with his bsm.

Nope. Naruto stated that he needed Kurama to fight MS Sasuke. The rest of it is garbage. Give it up, as PS is two tiers above V3. That puts it easily more than a tier above BSM avatar.

I am well aware of the fact that where he got his Senjutsu from.

 

[ShiroT]

It's not KCM have nothing to beat EMS Sasuke. at the very best he's equal to EMS with enton and a rib cage to V1 but no way in hell is he stronger or equal to him.

And then what did he use after that PS which is equal to BSM without senjutsu.

thats the same legged susanno(not ps) that he was using the whole obito vs alliance fight. sasuke hasnt used a ps (adleast not without fusing with naruto)

@Bold- im done Lol take your fanboyism somewhere else

 

[Styles]

EMS Sasuke having the Perfect Susanoo we've seen him use against kaguya is fanfic. EMS Sasuke never used PS. stop living in denial and thinking sasuke is relevant.

Like I said, Sasuke serves as a good second place

Your logic makes no sense because he covered Kyuubi in PS Madara did the same by your logic since Madara never shown PS till he was edo with Rinnegan then he doesn't have it with EMS.

thats the same legged susanno(not ps) that he was using the whole obito vs alliance fight. sasuke hasnt used a ps (adleast not without fusing with naruto)

@Bold- im done Lol take your fanboyism somewhere else

Manga page showing a parallel of EMS with enton being equal to KCM and yet im fanboying suuuurrre.

 

[ShiroT]

Nope. Naruto stated that he needed Kurama to fight MS Sasuke. The rest of it is garbage. Give it up, as PS is two tiers above V3. That puts it easily more than a tier above BSM avatar.

I am well aware of the fact that where he got his Senjutsu from.

yet ems sasuke on his own has only used a legged susanno(if you dont count susanno x kyuubi then he's never used it). ems with ps is featless

 

[EternalFlame]

Madara had no chance which was why he was going for his 2nd Rinnegan.

Nope not really BSM is just added SM and senjutsu no diff between BM Just a little stronger.


More feats all he did in that fight was shadow clones and different RS stuff that was already expected he was gonna use.

A Lava RS without even using his mode... a Jutsu that is ridiculous in destructive power, far beyond any of Sasuke's Jutsu in destructive force. Only his Perfect Susanno slash comes close.

The point is: while Sasuke didn't look bad in the Madara fight... Naruto also didn't. He arguably looked just as good if not better. Now? Naruto is still looking good and Sasuke is looking really underwhelming and just bad. He's getting new feats, holding Kaguya at bay while Sasuke is getting smacked about, seperated and getting nerfed.

Naruto

Yang Power
Truth Seeking Balls
New Mode
Flight
Magnet Release Rasengan
Lava Release Rasengan
Super Rasengan from every Bijuu, each with its own power
Multiple Tailed Beast Ball Shuriken
Speed that is somehow rivalling Sasuke's S/T which is supposed to be Insant
No drawbacks to his power unlike Sasuke that has two.
Jesus Healing

Sasuke

Ying Power
Black Chidori
His Susanno has wings
His S/T Jutsu
Drawbacks to his power, not just one but two.

 

[shelke]

yet ems sasuke on his own has only used a legged susanno(if you dont count susanno x kyuubi then he's never used it). ems with ps is featless

Nothing but your own self-created nonsense then.

 

[Ultimateone]

It's not KCM have nothing to beat EMS Sasuke. at the very best he's equal to EMS with enton and a rib cage to V1 but no way in hell is he stronger or equal to him.

And then what did he use after that PS which is equal to BSM without senjutsu.

look man, i can agree with you that ems sasuke> kcm naruto a good case can be made for that. but to say he doesn't have jutsu to bust his legged versions of susano is false. naruto is able to make giant frs in that version, which he can spam by the way. but i could agree that he could beat him in that form. but with that said BM naruto> ems sasuke, thats just very easy to see. naruto is able to match the power of 5 bijuu making a bijuu dama on his own. no way even a PS is able to withstand that power. naruto is faster, more agile, just everything better.

than you add BSM naruto>>>EMS sasuke. sage mode doesn't just increae things by a little, it is a drastic increase, that is proportionate to the amount of natural energy that you are able to weild at a time. that means that it's an even greater increase than using it in his base form. when naruto first learned it and came back to the villiage, shikamaru's dad explained they should stay out of his way, because he is on an whole other level than them now. add all the abilities and increases to BM and it's not even close. even with the curse seal that juugo helps him weild, it's still not equal as curse seal is the discout sage mode. and currently by feats RSM naruto>>>>> current sasuke.

 

[ShiroT]

Nothing but your own self-created nonsense then.

self created nonsense? you say ems sasuke's ps is above bsm. show his ps? oh wait . . . .he hasnt showed it, maybe you shouldnt have mentioned ps

oops, worded wrong i meant bm = ems, bsm > ems, my mistake

 

[Styles]

A Lava RS without even using his mode... a Jutsu that is ridiculous in destructive power, far beyond any of Sasuke's Jutsu in destructive force. Only his Perfect Susanno slash comes close.

The point is: while Sasuke didn't look bad in the Madara fight... Naruto also didn't. He arguably looked just as good if not better. Now? Naruto is still looking good and Sasuke is looking really underwhelming and just bad. He's getting new feats, holding Kaguya at bay while Sasuke is getting smacked about, seperated and getting nerfed.

Naruto

Yang Power
Truth Seeking Balls
New Mode
Flight
Magnet Release Rasengan
Lava Release Rasengan
Super Rasengan from every Bijuu, each with its own power
Multiple Tailed Beast Ball Shuriken
Speed that is somehow rivalling Sasuke's S/T which is supposed to be Insant
No drawbacks to his power unlike Sasuke that has two.
Jesus Healing

Sasuke

Ying Power
Black Chidori
His Susanno has wings
His S/T Jutsu
Drawbacks to his power, not just one but two.

Then Sasuke getting Mokuton and a 2nd Rinnegan has been foreshadowed then if that's not the case either Sasuke is holding back or Kishi is ****ing over his character. Because he have more advanced version of Hashi DNA which gave Madara Mokuton and some Hashi chakra which by the way still have some Ashura power in it.

 

[ShiroT]

Your logic makes no sense because he covered Kyuubi in PS Madara did the same by your logic since Madara never shown PS till he was edo with Rinnegan then he doesn't have it with EMS.


Manga page showing a parallel of EMS with enton being equal to KCM and yet im fanboying suuuurrre.

turns out i got my wording wrong. i meant bm = ems and bsm > ems Lol

 

[Styles]

turns out i got my wording wrong. i meant bm = ems and bsm > ems Lol

Wasn't BM losing to a wood dragon and a lower version of PS Madara had.

than you add BSM naruto>>>EMS sasuke. sage mode doesn't just increae things by a little, it is a drastic increase, that is proportionate to the amount of natural energy that you are able to weild at a time. that means that it's an even greater increase than using it in his base form. when naruto first learned it and came back to the villiage, shikamaru's dad explained they should stay out of his way, because he is on an whole other level than them now. add all the abilities and increases to BM and it's not even close. even with the curse seal that juugo helps him weild, it's still not equal as curse seal is the discout sage mode. and currently by feats RSM naruto>>>>> current sasuke.

I can agree BSM >> Legged Susano'o with CM But PS with enton anyone can argue that's equal more or less Naruto has the power Sasuke have the speed precision.

 

[shelke]

self created nonsense? you say ems sasuke's ps is above bsm. show his ps? oh wait . . . .he hasnt showed it, maybe you shouldnt have mentioned ps

oops, worded wrong i meant bm = ems, bsm > ems, my mistake

Oh ... dear god!

 

[ShiroT]

Oh ... dear god!

show me ems sasuke's ps that was done on his own

 

[Styles]

show me ems sasuke's ps that was done on his own

Your logic then show Madara using PS with EMS when he's not edo and with Rinnegan.

 

[ShiroT]

Your logic then show Madara using PS with EMS when he's not edo and with Rinnegan.

those things arent the same. madara has used a ps which isnt an edo feat.

sasuke hasnt. if your going to say im spouting nonsense and base your argument on something we've never seen then i laugh at you Lol.

i never said ems sauce doesnt have a ps i said he hasnt shown it so its featless

 

[Styles]

those things arent the same. madara has used a ps which isnt an edo feat.

sasuke hasnt. if your going to say im spouting nonsense and base your argument on something we've never seen then i laugh at you Lol.

i never said ems sauce doesnt have a ps i said he hasnt shown it so its featless

It is the same you say Sasuke never shown PS on his own with EMS and i'm saying neither has Madara they both covered Kyuubi with it.

Besides who's to say the PS he's using now is how it is with EMS cause im sure as hell if it's powered by the sages chakra it wouldn't be getting beat like that.

 

[Ultimateone]

Wasn't BM losing to a wood dragon and a lower version of PS Madara had.

I can agree BSM >> Legged Susano'o with CM But PS with enton anyone can argue that's equal more or less Naruto has the power Sasuke have the speed precision.

you forget that the mokuton is specifically tuned to fight bijuu, although it is equally as effective on non bijuu/jin. the only version of madara's susano naruto fought was a legged susano. he was in BM at the time, and he only hit it with 1 tail, that was a revived madara by the way. but he never faced a PS.

but what exactly is enton suppose to do to naruto in BSM. if naruto is using a bijuu avatar, the enton is made almost useless because of his unique properties while in it. since he doesn't have a solid form but just a big chakra mass, it won't effect him the same. just like how the acid from the 6 tails didn't hurt him when it got on his hands(think back to when he was fighting the bijuu). also, considering BM naruto was able to tank a laser from the juubi, it think he'll be fine against enton. if he is in human form, then enton won't even get a chance to hit him. BM naruto is just overall stronger tham EMS sasuke, not to mention BSM. fortunately or unfortunately, naruto has had an advantage in power over sasuke for some time.

 

[ShiroT]

It is the same you say Sasuke never shown PS on his own with EMS and i'm saying neither has Madara they both covered Kyuubi with it.

Besides who's to say the PS he's using now is how it is with EMS cause im sure as hell if it's powered by the sages chakra it wouldn't be getting beat like that.

madara as an edo has shown his ps with his ems. it is not something he learned as an edo so its something the real madara can do.

if we gave ems sasuke his current ps then sure it would be above bsm.

 

[xxxLegacy]

Sasuke never really had a spot light in this war.

First answer soloed the thread...