[Theory] NARUTO 688 Miconceptions.

[Hata Hideaki]

so i basically reread the whole chapter and noticed few things.

look at the panels below.

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I know some people are supposedly ‘freaking’ out on Obito coming back to life and bashing Kishi for writing illogically, firstly lets find out whats actually happening;

Obito simply used the Spirit Transformation jutsu, he was able to freely move his spirit at will, entering people’s bodies/minds, even transferring his Chakra to them.

We first see Dan Katō use the techinque in order to speak to Tsunade.

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see the similarity..??

Next we see Tobirama try use this technique in order to save Sasuke sadly since he was restricted from Madara’s jutsu he was unable to move and perform any jutsu.

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Even Madara himself used the jutsu to return his soul to his undead body.

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Proving what Obito did was not impossible.

Now the second misconception.

Obito giving Kakashi both his eyes.

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Many people may have not noticed but Kakashi’s eyes and powers are ‘Temporary’ like Obito said:

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Obito used the technique Itachi used on Sasuke to protect Sasuke from Obito/Tobi.

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Itachi transferred his power to Sasuke exactly what Obito did to Kakashi this chapter. Right now Kakashi is using Obito’s chakra, the MS or the ability to summon a Susano’o is not his but Obito’s. Right now Obito’s spirit and chakra is inside Kakashi, exactly what Itachi did to Sasuke. Once Kakashi/Obito tires out Kakashi automatically loses the ability of having MS.

And finally the last misconception.

Kakashi using Perfect Susano’o, with just Mangekyō Sharingan.

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Kakashi simply copied the ability to summon Perfect Susano’o from Sasuke, yes he copied a Susano’o, well he is known as the copy cat ninja why not take a step further and copy a entire Susano’o?

Thats the reason behind Naruto saying “Thats why he’s known as the famous copy cat ninja”.

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And look at the panel below, Naruto thought Sasuke saved Sakura due to the Susano’o kinda looking like Sasuke’s. Until he turned back and realized Sasuke is right behind him and confused as much as Naruto.

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So everyone calm down this isn’t ass pull is just the way Kishi writes, everything shown in this chapter was shown before but in a more epic proportion.

any problem..?!!​

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[Ricardo]

Yes. there is a problem. This is an ASS-PULL ^^

 

[Swagbito]

but kakashi's susanoo is too fast

 

[realobito1]

yeah, but wait, since when does obito know that jutsu. No my friend this is just dumb

 

[DeviantArt]

If you can't see the problems you're a fapboy

 

[The Western Wheel]

No... Personally I find it mad funny. Go, Kishi, go!!

 

[narutodude3]

this tread is very nice and all.
but what you don't understand is that. no person can just summon a susanoo at an instant. i mean seriously it takes so much training.
and copying a susanoo is impossible! and i don't think chakra can be transferred in that sort of wway!

 

[Sir Cool Blizzard]

Yes. there is a problem. This is an ASS-PULL ^^

Agreed but there is an explanation so its not a plothole!! U_U

 

[CDT23]

My theory is that he will have them but he can only use the OP techniques if Obito molds chakra for him. Like how Naruto and Kurama does it. From what I can see time doesnt really change when someone dies. People who gets Edo tensei dont realize it until they are told. In that case Obito can pop in and out when kakashi needs him. I think this would be the best way so that he doesnt just rape, he has a limit to use his OP stuff.

 

[Draxus]

Mostly agree, but I think you're wrong about Dan, Tobirama, and Madara all using the same jutsu, but more epic.

I think it's more like what Hagoromo did. Since Kakashi and Obito chakra are linked they are able to connect through the realms of life and death. He then gave Kakashi his chakra just like Hagoromo did w/ Naruto and Sasuke, just slightly less epic.

 

[Umari Senju]

A few issues with this theory.....When did Obito learn the Spirit Transformation Jutsu? Dan didn't teach it to him and he "died" when he was like 13 after barely awakening his Sharingan.

How did he use this jutsu after he was turned to Doritoes?

Madara didn't use that jutsu, he simply cancelled the ending of the edo Tensei and remained. But this is debatible as the technique Madara used is probably akin to the Spirit Transformation so I can give you that.

Itachi was alive when he programmed the Amateratsu into Sasuke's eyes. The tap on the forehead is what brought it about. As I mentioned above. Obito's body had already been destroyed.

Also The Sharingan is not suppose to be capable of copying Kekkei Genkai. Susanoo is an ability of the Sharingan....A Kekkei Genkai. This just shows that Kishi is throwing out rules he once had in places.

everything else I agree with....

But just because it is somewhat plausible doesn't make it any less of an asspull.

 

[Zakler2k9]

so if villager A give chakra to villager B , then villager B can use villager A jutsu?

 

[CDT23]

so if villager A give chakra to villager B , then villager B can use villager A jutsu?

Na he wouldnt be able to. In Kakashis situation he already has the potential to use susano even with out copying it. Copying it just makes it easier. Like he wouldnt be able to copy Itachis susano completely because he wont have Yata and Totsuka. Or how he cant copy KGG Jutsu.

 

[Floydical]

Both Jiraiya and Asuma used the same technique with their soul to visit Shikimaru and Naruto.

 

[Umari Senju]

Na he wouldnt be able to. In Kakashis situation he already has the potential to use susano even with out copying it. Copying it just makes it easier. Like he wouldnt be able to copy Itachis susano completely because he wont have Yata and Totsuka. Or how he cant copy KGG Jutsu.

XD you just contridicted yourself.

You do realize that Susanoo falls in the line of Kekkei Genkai since it orginates from the Sharingan, right. And on top of that he copied Perfect Susanoo. Isn't Perfect Susanoo a result of Indra's chakra or EMS?

 

[Captain Incognito]

First - Susanoo is a Kekkei Genkai, the Sharingan can't copy a Kekkei Genkai.

Second - Sasuke needed a lot of time and "training" before he could use PS, while Kakashi a non-Uchiha can use it right away.

This doesn't seem right to me.

 

[iFlowMotion]

Still asspull from kishi. I like how you cleared it up but it's still asspull. Kishi running low on ideas. Might as well give the K10 bijuus rinnegan's and susanoo's seeing how everyone getting free power ups

 

[xriz uchiha]

this tread is very nice and all.
but what you don't understand is that. no person can just summon a susanoo at an instant. i mean seriously it takes so much training.
and copying a susanoo is impossible! and i don't think chakra can be transferred in that sort of wway!

i don't remember anyone trained to summon Susanoo ?:heh:

 

[CDT23]

XD you just contridicted yourself.

You do realize that Susanoo falls in the line of Kekkei Genkai since it orginates from the Sharingan, right. And on top of that he copied Perfect Susanoo. Isn't Perfect Susanoo a result of Indra's chakra or EMS?

But read, he already has the potential to use susano. He has both eyes and they are MS. Even if Obito never got the strength to use it after his short revival it doesn't mean he couldn't.

 

[Draxus]

First - Susanoo is a Kekkei Genkai, the Sharingan can't copy a Kekkei Genkai.

Second - Sasuke needed a lot of time and "training" before he could use PS, while Kakashi a non-Uchiha can use it right away.

This doesn't seem right to me.

XD you just contridicted yourself.

You do realize that Susanoo falls in the line of Kekkei Genkai since it orginates from the Sharingan, right. And on top of that he copied Perfect Susanoo. Isn't Perfect Susanoo a result of Indra's chakra or EMS?

I think we need to look a little deeper. Not being able to copy KKG isn't just an arbitrary rule. The reason Kakashi couldn't do it is because he didn't have prerequisite in order to use the jutsu. It's the same reason he can't just copy any regular elemental jutsu. Since the prereq for Susano'o is double MS, he can copy it.

Secondly no one has every seen "training" their susano'o. Seems it gets stronger with the skill level of the user. Few are more skilled than Kakashi.