Mangekyo techs copiable & Susano'o this last chapter

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MS are not copiable, no one showed to be able to copy a MS jutsus. Sasuke stated 2 MS allows you to use Susanoo back in the Kage summit arc. You also need to have the skill to use the jutsu that you are trying to copy so unless Kakashi had the skills/power to use PS then he couldn't copy it. This is why Kakashi have Lightning, earth, and water elements to copy jutsus of those elements because if he didn't have those chakra nature then he couldn't copy those jutsus. This is why Kakashi said he can't copy KKG, he doesn't have the ability to use KKG jutsus. You don't need Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi for Susanoo, only 2 MS as Sasuke says here . So Kakashi would need to be able to use PS on his own (with the eyes he has) to be able to even try and copy PS and he got his Sharingans when Sasuke's PS was dissolving from Kaguya's hits.

Perhaps he only gave vague details to not give away his jutsu? Because it was also stated that one needs Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi to unlock Susanoo.
 

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Ok Susanoo, Amaterasu, and Tsukuyomi technically are not kkgs, the MS is.

Kakashi has the MS therefore any jutsu that requires the specific kkg (MS), is fair game to copy. Get it? But not kkgs that he doesn't have

That's fanfic and nothing more.
 

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So you are saying obito is undoubtedly has the best sharigan because he can just copy others KOTO GG Ammy GG tsukuyomi GG KAMUI GG?

Never seen KA in action lol
He already has Kamui lol
And pretty sure it's been shown that Amaterasu had been fodderized do many times in the series
 

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If people want to go with obito copying all techniques then i'm creating a new troll character Prime Obito
 

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Never seen KA in action lol
He already has Kamui lol
And pretty sure it's been shown that Amaterasu had been fodderized do many times in the series

He has seen danzo use it sorry obito KOTO GG
 

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Perhaps he only gave vague details to not give away his jutsu? Because it was also stated that one needs Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi to unlock Susanoo.

Which has been debunked countless times already.Christ,you really are grasping at anything aren't you?

I said having the unique MS powers in both eyes unlocks Susanoo and even provided the scan that confirms it,you people deny and cling to outdated info that is now fanfic at this point.Today's chapter adds the final nail to the coffin of Ama and Tsukiyomi being needed for Susanoo and yet some people still deny it.
 

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Flying space time Amaterasu covered Perfect susanoo with Koto Prime Obito GG
 

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In the manga qualifies as fanfic now??

The part where Ama and Tsukiyomi are needed for Susanoo is now fanfic,so is Kakashi copying those techniques as to explain why he got Susanoo when that is not the case.
 

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Which has been debunked countless times already.Christ,you really are grasping at anything aren't you?

I said having the unique MS powers in both eyes unlocks Susanoo and even provided the scan that confirms it,you people deny and cling to outdated info that is now fanfic at this point.Today's chapter adds the final nail to the coffin of Ama and Tsukiyomi being needed for Susanoo and yet some people still deny it.

Not debunked, only person who can debunk something is Kishimoto, it was simply ignored, denied, and passed off as fanfic by the majority. Similar to how the majority thought Tobi was Madara, but then got trolled with Tobi being Obito
 

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Its obitos kakashi merely s arred it. Kakashi lacks the inton necessary sincrle that is an uchiha trait. Or perhaps obito transferred inton along with the eyes. But is it temporary.
 

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The part where Ama and Tsukiyomi are needed for Susanoo is now fanfic,so is Kakashi copying those techniques as to explain why he got Susanoo when that is not the case.
Fanfic= fan fiction
Fan fiction= created by fans
Manga chapter= fanfic??

Where is the logic in that statement, the manga is up to interpretation by the fans.
 

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The part where Ama and Tsukiyomi are needed for Susanoo is now fanfic,so is Kakashi copying those techniques as to explain why he got Susanoo when that is not the case.

Only because YOU think its not the case , doesnt mean its fanfic lmao. Who are you though ? But anyway , We have scans stating Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi are needed to unlock Susano'o too , Yet I still created this thread to debate with yall so keep calm please .
 

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Not debunked, only person who can debunk something is Kishimoto, it was simply ignored, denied, and passed off as fanfic by the majority. Similar to how the majority thought Tobi was Madara, but then got trolled with Tobi being Obito

Kishi letting Kakashi have Susanoo debunks the whole Ama and Tsuki being required for Susanoo argument your side clings to.Since Kakashi doesn't have those techniques the above is now considered fanfic.

I've said it once and I'll say it again:Kishi could come out and say Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi aren't needed for Susanoo and you will still get people who will deny it.
 

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Fanfic= fan fiction
Fan fiction= created by fans
Manga chapter= fanfic??

Where is the logic in that statement, the manga is up to interpretation by the fans.

Im glad the argument can finally come to an end. Double MS can unlock susanoo. No ama or tsuk required.
 

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MS are not copiable, no one showed to be able to copy a MS jutsus. Sasuke stated 2 MS allows you to use Susanoo back in the Kage summit arc. You also need to have the skill to use the jutsu that you are trying to copy so unless Kakashi had the skills/power to use PS then he couldn't copy it. This is why Kakashi have Lightning, earth, and water elements to copy jutsus of those elements because if he didn't have those chakra nature then he couldn't copy those jutsus. This is why Kakashi said he can't copy KKG, he doesn't have the ability to use KKG jutsus. You don't need Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi for Susanoo, only 2 MS as Sasuke says here . So Kakashi would need to be able to use PS on his own (with the eyes he has) to be able to even try and copy PS and he got his Sharingans when Sasuke's PS was dissolving from Kaguya's hits.

You have your scans and I have mine stating its needed too . I did not made this chapter , its pretty clear Kakashi copied Sasuke's PS .
 

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Im glad the argument can finally come to an end. Double MS can unlock susanoo. No ama or tsuk required.

But...but Prime Obito's PS covered in Amaterasu with koto :NO: I thought everyone agreed his ms can copy all other lmao
 

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Only because YOU think its not the case , doesnt mean its fanfic lmao. Who are you though ? But anyway , We have scans stating Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi are needed to unlock Susano'o too , Yet I still created this thread to debate with yall so keep calm please .

Which has been debunked already:
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I'm done arguing with you people.

You can keep denying current manga facts for all I care.
 

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Kishi letting Kakashi have Susanoo debunks the whole Ama and Tsuki being required for Susanoo argument your side clings to.Since Kakashi doesn't have those techniques the above is now considered fanfic.

I've said it once and I'll say it again:Kishi could come out and say Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi aren't needed for Susanoo and you will still get people who will deny it.

The funny part is you're acting like the logical one basing yourself on a chapter where Kakashi pops out PS out of nowhere . I dont see how my explanation to the chapter is that far fetched at all guessing the current manga status , but I can feel where all this leads , you really dont want some character to have the techniques I mentioned lmao .
 
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