Kakashi's eyes issue: not a plothole

[GamakichiTheUsurper]

Many ones out there have been complaining about Kakashi's eyes issue, being such issue a plothole according to them.

Those complaints usually involve this points of here below, which I am proceeding to explain why they are not plotholes at all, and thus they make perfect sense.

1- How is it that Kakashi was able to pull off Perfect Susanoo without the EMS?

2- Kakashi's eyes should have bled.

3- Kakashi lacks the inmense chakra pool required to pull off Perfect Susanoo.

Here is the explanation itself



1- How is it that Kakashi was able to pull off Perfect Susanoo without the EMS.​

It has never been stated in the series that EMS is required to use Perfect Susanoo; and there is no reason to think otherwise as it wouldn't make any sense, since the only thing of which EMS prevents is of blindness.

2- Kakashi's eyes should have bled.​

Kakashi's eyes cannot bleed because Kakashi's eyes are not the source of the technique, but just the medium that allows Obito's eyes (in the form of chakra, of course) to cast the technique. Obito's eyes are the ones pulling off the Perfect Susanoo.

This is a similar basis to that of the EMS. EMS uses the transplanted eyes to channel one's own Mangekyō Sharingan's powers from one's inner self to the outside. So, in a way, Kakashi has some kind of EMS.

3- Kakashi lacks the inmense chakra pool required to pull off Perfect Susanoo.​

Indeed, but Kakashi also has Obito's chakra at his disposal.

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I am not trying to justify Kishimoto's decision, since the fact of them not being a plothole does not exclude them of being bad writting. Yet this is another issue of which I am not going to debate in this thread, but maybe in another one.


Thank you for reading, and please, share your thoughts

 

[cyberzone10]

Still Bullshit

I dont believe Obito's chakra can help Kakashi build Perfect Susanoo.

 

[Chīkara]

Obito used Kamui to go from heaven to the real world


/thread.

 

[Tobi98]

Actually you usually need EMS to have PS, but Obito's MS is much more hax than Itachi's or Sasuke's MS

 

[Chīkara]

Actually you usually need EMS to have PS, but Obito's MS is much more hax than Itachi's or Sasuke's MS

It's not the Susano'o doesn't even look like Obito it even has kakashi's scar.

 

[tywahu]

Still Bullshit

I dont believe Obito's chakra can help Kakashi build Perfect Susanoo.

That's your opinion, not a fact.

 

[Indora]

Still Bullshit

I dont believe Obito's chakra can help Kakashi build Perfect Susanoo.

Exactly
/10charas

 

[Sasori]

Yeah, its all thanks to sasukey

 

[rollin]

Obito also had hashi DNA

 

[God Of Destruction]

kishi ruined his manga

 

[Dantе]

Your second point countered your first point.

 

[Liquid Snake]

Kakashi solos all uchiha except current sasuke madara and Indra he stomps Itachi and the others

 

[GamakichiTheUsurper]

Your second point countered your first point.

No. I was just trying to stablish a similarity between both things in order to make it easier to undertand.

That is why I sad: "So, in a way, Kakashi has some kind of EMS"

Technically, Kakashi's eyes are not EMS.

 

[Tobi98]

Still Bullshit

I dont believe Obito's chakra can help Kakashi build Perfect Susanoo.

LOL, everything Obito had done till now, he was basicly dead

Just because Itachi's and Sasuke's MS are fodder, doesn't mean Obito's MS need to be too

 

[iKaras]

1. It just the fact that he used PS in mere seconds. EMS or MS. Just right out the gate...PS. Mind you Obito had those same eyes last chapter and could have blocked Kaguya's Spike with Susanoo.

2. Could care less if they bleed or not. The fact they came from nothingness is plenty enough already.

3. Could care less what his crappy chakra pool is. SMHS He lacks the body to be doing what he is doing now. All those years Itachi had Susanoo. Even Had 2 spirit weapons. Even Madara...SMHS.

 

[GamakichiTheUsurper]

Still Bullshit

I dont believe Obito's chakra can help Kakashi build Perfect Susanoo.

Why? I don't wont to seem surly, but please, share with us the basis behind such statement.

 

[Dantе]

No. I was just trying to stablish a similarity between both things in order to make it easier to undertand.

That is why I sad: "So, in a way, Kakashi has some kind of EMS"

Technically, Kakashi's eyes are not EMS.

Doesn't matter, Kishi is just trolling us.

 

[Tobi98]

1. It just the fact that he used PS in mere seconds. EMS or MS. Just right out the gate...PS. Mind you Obito had those same eyes last chapter and could have blocked Kaguya's Spike with Susanoo.

2. Could care less if they bleed or not. The fact they came from nothingness is plenty enough already.

3. Could care less what his crappy chakra pool is. SMHS He lacks the body to be doing what he is doing now. All those years Itachi had Susanoo. Even Had 2 spirit weapons. Even Madara...SMHS.

Obito was basicly dead

 

[GamakichiTheUsurper]

1. It just the fact that he used PS in mere seconds. EMS or MS. Just right out the gate...PS. Mind you Obito had those same eyes last chapter and could have blocked Kaguya's Spike with Susanoo.

2- Could care less if they bleed or not. The fact they came from nothingness is plenty enough already.

3- Could care less what his crappy chakra pool is. SMHS He lacks the body to be doing what he is doing now. All those years Itachi had Susanoo. Even Had 2 spirit weapons. Even Madara...SMHS.

1- Yes, the fact of using Perfect Susanoo in just seconds, is a bit... rushed, I would say; but not impossible. That is why I said that it was bad writting, but not a plothole.

2. They didn't come from nothingness, they came from Obito's chakra. Just in a similar manner to how Madara obtained the Rinnegan.

3. Obito's chakra is using Kakashi's body as a vessel.

 

[Naruto99Uzumaki]

indra also had only mangekyou sharingan, and still awekened PS.

thats the only logical reason i see.