DMS Kabuto vs Hokages

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Manda 2 has a chance of soloing.
 

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The funny thing is that I think hiruzen would be the most valuable player in this fight. His versatility could help them counter kabuto's versatility.

Enma's Diamnd Prison could protect them during the white rage technique, and hiruzen is the only one with Raiton to help damage kabuto if he liquefies himself.

its useless becuse kabuto uses his body fluids not water enma prison is useless Kabuto is a snake he easily gets through it
 

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its useless becuse kabuto uses his body fluids not water enma prison is useless Kabuto is a snake he easily gets through it

Not if enma completely closes it off. And 70% of kabuto's body is made off water, technically lol.
 

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Kabuto can get one shotted. Minato summons Gamabunta and Tsunade channels all her power through Hiruzen making his already mass scale fire style unimaginably huge and with Buntas mass scale oil, they can fry him and Manda II low difficulty.
 

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Kabuto can get one shotted. Minato summons Gamabunta and Tsunade channels all her power through Hiruzen making his already mass scale fire style unimaginably huge and with Buntas mass scale oil, they can fry him and Manda II low difficulty.

get smacked Manda 2 rapes Bunta its counters the fire same way manda did underground+Skin shed also Kimmi bones easily blocks against That katon

also you belive Tobirama suiton slice can chop through Kimmi's bones slap your they easily tanks. also your whole argument in my vm was them already having him tagged oral rebirth counters that or liquid body.

Kabuto wins med diff
 

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Kabuto wins. Sound genjutsu gets them all,manda 2 and all his other abilities are too myuch
 

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This is weird for me to say, but im gonna go with DMS Kabuto.


Hokages don't have a counter for Sage Art: White Rage.

If you disagree please enlighten me.

minato or tobirama warp it or themselves away before it goes off.
 

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Although I like Minato, I'm afraid his team loses. With no preparations, Kabuto can paralyze the team with Hiruzen and Tsunade have no right to move at this point, since they can't sense nor move. Only Minato and Tobirama can arguably warp (if they can throw the kunai far enough). Kabuto then can Muki Tensei to control the environment [f.e. ground, trees excetera]. An ambush from Manda II then finishes it by eating them alive, uses or Kabuto intercepts them with .​

Kabuto can get one shotted. Minato summons Gamabunta and Tsunade channels all her power through Hiruzen making his already mass scale fire style unimaginably huge and with Buntas mass scale oil, they can fry him and Manda II low difficulty.

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Although I like Minato, I'm afraid his team loses. With no preparations, Kabuto can paralyze the team with Hiruzen and Tsunade have no right to move at this point, since they can't sense nor move. Only Minato and Tobirama can arguably warp (if they can throw the kunai far enough). Kabuto then can Muki Tensei to control the environment [f.e. ground, trees excetera]. An ambush from Manda II then finishes it by eating them alive, uses or Kabuto intercepts them with .​



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Did you read the conditions where Intel was full? They already know about Kabuto's techniques as he does about theres but Kabuto can't react to FTG which is a main reason why he loses.

Itachi moved when White Raged was used against him. I see no reason why Tsunade and Hiruzen can't overcome it too. Also Minato just marks them both and he can teleport them with him if they ever get in danger. Tobirama can link his marks with Minato's so he could do it as well, this is why Kabuto will barely if ever hit them:

- Kabuto goes for Hiruzen or Tsunade
- Minato just teleports them to his location
- Tobirama could teleport them to his location

They can bring one each, Tobirama brings Hiruzen and Minato brings Tsunade. See how this works? How will Kabuto land attacks on them?

Yeah Manda shed its skin from Jiraiyas attacks but this attack would be much different. Tsunade would put his Fire (thats already superior to Jiraiya's) on steriods then with Bunta's oil, plus a clone from Hiruzen adding Wind Style to amp it even further?! We're looking at a blast that completely eclipses the one in that scan, you can't even begin to compare there power.

Theres always Minato summoning Ma+Pa to win with Frog Sound too.
 

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Did you read the conditions where Intel was full? They already know about Kabuto's techniques as he does about theres but Kabuto can't react to FTG which is a main reason why he loses.

Itachi moved when White Raged was used against him. I see no reason why Tsunade and Hiruzen can't overcome it too. Also Minato just marks them both and he can teleport them with him if they ever get in danger. Tobirama can link his marks with Minato's so he could do it as well, this is why Kabuto will barely if ever hit them:

- Kabuto goes for Hiruzen or Tsunade
- Minato just teleports them to his location
- Tobirama could teleport them to his location

They can bring one each, Tobirama brings Hiruzen and Minato brings Tsunade. See how this works? How will Kabuto land attacks on them?

Yeah Manda shed its skin from Jiraiyas attacks but this attack would be much different. Tsunade would put his Fire (thats already superior to Jiraiya's) on steriods then with Bunta's oil, plus a clone from Hiruzen adding Wind Style to amp it even further?! We're looking at a blast that completely eclipses the one in that scan, you can't even begin to compare there power.

Theres always Minato summoning Ma+Pa to win with Frog Sound too.

...If Bi was able to react to FTG, a Senjutsu enhanced Kabuto can without a doubt react to it. Frog Song ain't doing shit versus White Rage.
 

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Did you read the conditions where Intel was full? They already know about Kabuto's techniques as he does about theres but Kabuto can't react to FTG which is a main reason why he loses.

Itachi moved when White Raged was used against him. I see no reason why Tsunade and Hiruzen can't overcome it too. Also Minato just marks them both and he can teleport them with him if they ever get in danger. Tobirama can link his marks with Minato's so he could do it as well, this is why Kabuto will barely if ever hit them:

- Kabuto goes for Hiruzen or Tsunade
- Minato just teleports them to his location
- Tobirama could teleport them to his location

They can bring one each, Tobirama brings Hiruzen and Minato brings Tsunade. See how this works? How will Kabuto land attacks on them?

Yeah Manda shed its skin from Jiraiyas attacks but this attack would be much different. Tsunade would put his Fire (thats already superior to Jiraiya's) on steriods then with Bunta's oil, plus a clone from Hiruzen adding Wind Style to amp it even further?! We're looking at a blast that completely eclipses the one in that scan, you can't even begin to compare there power.

Theres always Minato summoning Ma+Pa to win with Frog Sound too.

How does this change anything...? Firstly, if the intel is full and they have no preparations, Kabuto surely won't be surprised by Hiraishin and killed by it, especially when he has Hōzuki clan's genetics as well as impressive recovery from the Uzumaki clan? Not at all.

Unless you're implying that Itachi is slower than Hiruzen and Tsunade [didn't even get out of the AoE himself], both won't move that much away from it. I also don't see Minato marking them, throwing a kunai and warping them all before Hakugeki activates. Your point remains moot.

The instant the fight starts, Kabuto activates Senpō: Hakugeki no Jutsu like in canon against Itachi vs. Sasuke. No one is moving out of the AoE in time, or at least, not all of them.

1. Not happening in time 2. Manda II is so ridiculously larger, it doesn't really even matter 3. I don't even see why he can't dive underground.

Fair point, but no one is summoning in time since they have no counter to the first jutsu.
 

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Kabuto can beat all of them 1v1, aside from Hashirama. But all of them at the same time? lol
 

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...If Bi was able to react to FTG, a Senjutsu enhanced Kabuto can without a doubt react to it. Frog Song ain't doing shit versus White Rage.

So you're saying base Bee has better reflexes and reaction speed than V2 Ay?

"aint doing shit" Frog Sound is a genjutsu, not a ninjutsu that would clash with White Rage. When Kabuto hears it he is finished.
 

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So you're saying base Bee has better reflexes and reaction speed than V2 Ay?

"aint doing shit" Frog Sound is a genjutsu, not a ninjutsu that would clash with White Rage. When Kabuto hears it he is finished.

No, I'm using what was shown in the manga. Bee canonically reacted to FTG. If there is both full intel and Sage Mode perception being used, Kabuto can without a doubt reacting to FTG.

As you yourself said, there is full intel. When Kabuto sees Ma and Pa summoned, he preps Hakugeki as a counter to Frog Song.
 

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If the intel is full, a simple space time barrier can be used on white rage while it's still in its dragon projectile form and sent away before it explodes.
 
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