[VS] Hashirama vs Shisui

[Demonic.]

Sharingan should be able to see through mokuton clones. Shadow Clones are different from Mokuton clones due to shadow clones being the actual real bodies duplicates of the user. Shadow clone consist of flesh and bone and the same chakra reserves of the user.

Mokuton clones are nothing more than vegetation that has less chakra than the original. The chakra signatures are different due to the clone having less chakra and different body composition from the user.

So Shisui's MS will see thru Mokuton Clones. If Hashirama had a shadow clone then it would be a different story.

Wrong. Out of the entire Uchiha clan Madara said his visual prowess was the only one able to see through them. Unless you're implying Shisui's Sharingan=Madara's Sharingan Shisui doesn't have such a feat.

 

[MickNerks]

Wrong. Out of the entire Uchiha clan Madara said his visual prowess was the only one able to see through them. Unless you're implying Shisui's Sharingan=Madara's Sharingan Shisui doesn't have such a feat.

According to the manga Madara and Izuna was the only Uchiha to have MS during his reign, so it would make since that he would be the only one to see through it, as he was the only uchiha who was able to fight Hashirama and the only one to fight him with a Mangekyou (probally spelt it wrong)

And you misquoted madara. He said he was the only one of hashirama's enimies who could see throught it (due to his MS). But we know that Madara was the only uchiha who was able to fight Hashirama. Once again, his MS and EMS allowed him to see through Mokuton clones.

Shisui has MS, which means He can see through Mokuton clones.

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[Demonic.]

According to the manga Madara and Izuna was the only Uchiha to have MS during his reign, so it would make since that he would be the only one to see through it, as he was the only uchiha who was able to fight Hashirama and the only one to fight him with a Mangekyou (probally spelt it wrong)

And you misquoted madara. He said he was the only one of hashirama's enimies who could see throught it (due to his MS). But we know that Madara was the only uchiha who was able to fight Hashirama. Once again, his MS and EMS allowed him to see through Mokuton clones.

Shisui has MS, which means He can see through Mokuton clones.

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Mascara said he was the only one despite Izuna having MS. Did you rule out Madara being able to see them because of EMS? That would make perfect sense and not contradict his own words.

 

[MickNerks]

Madara said he was the only one despite Izuna having MS. Did you rule out Madara being able to see them because of EMS? That would make perfect sense and not contradict his own words.

Izuna had died lmao which only left madara.

That's also a possibility that EMS allowed him to see, but when you consider the fact that madara fought hashirama multiple times when he only had MS, then its also possible to say that it only required MS to see through it.

 

[Demonic.]

Izuna had died lmao which only left madara.

That's also a possibility that EMS allowed him to see, but when you consider the fact that madara fought hashirama multiple times when he only had MS, then its also possible to say that it only required MS to see through it.

Yeah but their is no indication that their fights ever got serious until after Madara's brother Izuna died. At least, Hashirama never had killing intent. Hashirama said himself Madara was once a kind man before his brother died.

 

[FlashReturns]

KA is the only thing that will work on hashirama from what we have seen from shisui. A ninja will use his abilities as he sees fit,guy went 8 gates after seeing 7 gates fail,shisui dosent need to go about using katons and shurikens when he knows who hashirama is. KA solos



so your reason for saying hashirama counters KA is becuse of his title and name?,and you talk about being looked down on Lol

No, but the name alone tells us all we need to know. If we go by feats then it's not even close...We know fully what Hashirama is capable of. Being able to defeat Madara along with Kurama. Practically held down the entire Juubi by himself...Shisui got his eye taken by Danzo and either way you look at it, anime or manga, that was very unimpressive. MS Sasuke took on multiple Izanagi attacks, Shisui faltered to a single one. Not to mention Hashirama fought the Uchiha his entire life, Genjutsu is no problem for him to avoid.

 

[genii96]

No, but the name alone tells us all we need to know. If we go by feats then it's not even close...We know fully what Hashirama is capable of. Being able to defeat Madara along with Kurama. Practically held down the entire Juubi by himself...Shisui got his eye taken by Danzo and either way you look at it, anime or manga, that was very unimpressive. MS Sasuke took on multiple Izanagi attacks, Shisui faltered to a single one. Not to mention Hashirama fought the Uchiha his entire life, Genjutsu is no problem for him to avoid.

once again,you use hype and potrayal with absolutely no counter. This isnt dbz,its about matchups,shisui is a bad matchup for hashiramathere are people weaker than hashirama whose abilities allow them to counter KA,however that dosent make them stronger than him,nor does him loosing to shisui make him weaker.
Danzo would have killed sasuke using only one izanagi had he not spoken to give away his position. Madara used brute force in his fight,he isnt shisui,hashirama didnt hold the juubi by himself quit wanking.
He just cant counter KA,deal with it

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

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this proves nothing except that shisui got ordered to give up an eye, and was probably surrounded by anbu

...Shisui got his eye taken by Danzo and either way you look at it, anime or manga, that was very unimpressive.

shisui did not want war. vs either danzo or his clan. if he started fighting danzo then it woudl mean war and he wouldnt have gotten out of that alive.

 

[KidGamer65]

this proves nothing except that shisui got ordered to give up an eye, and was probably surrounded by anbu

Yeah, if you can't read the manga.

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Danzo stole his right eye. Meaning he beat his ass and took it. No anbu were mentioned either, just Danzo.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Yeah, if you can't read the manga.

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Danzo stole his right eye. Meaning he beat his ass and took it. No anbu were mentioned either, just Danzo.

danzo is a coward. he didnt tell fu and torune to take a hike, he asked them to go on ahead, fight tobi and pretty much die for the cause.
he didnt go alone to hanzo, he had a band of goons with him.
he didnt go alone to wait out pains invasion, he asked his whole goon squad to stay and wait.
he hid behind izanagi the whole final sasuke fight. the man does not face battles head on. its part of who he is as a person.
he could have "beat hiruzens ass" and taken what he thought he deserved yet never did. the only way danzo beats hiruzen 1 v 1 is again, hiding behind stolen shit. shisui's shit.

shisui again is not the kind of man to throw away whatever pride and honor and love he has, and betray/battle against his own superior. if danzo handed him a beating, shisui would have refused to fight back.
shisui also does not spout out pointless facts especially when hes going to die.
he wouldnt say "danzo took my eye....oh and a bunch of other masked goons of his that he brought with him, even though mentioning them is irrelevant to this discussion and only danzo matters but hey, im dumb like that"
to speculate it was just a onesided beatdown is to shit on everything we know about these two characters.
show me an instance in the manga where danzo attempts to do something on his own, no agenda. no goon squads. all business.

 

[Team7Represent]

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