[Discussion] is there is any god ?

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the only religion I respect (aside from Hellenism) is Buddhism and not because it is a religion or philosophy, but because it is a practice that, in my opinion, all should follow
 

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pic or it didn't happen?

No, but seriously, direct me to some proof.

I've taken numerous courses on the matter, please enlighten me

I forgot the year, I thinks its 1890, when the prince of england was born with blood cancer but was healing by a pope( I think, I research and hopefully inform you about it)
 

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pic or it didn't happen?

No, but seriously, direct me to some proof.

I've taken numerous courses on the matter, please enlighten me
This is funny. Jesus didn't exist neither did anybody esle that has no picture proof of. Lol Your wasting your money on these courses of this is the best you can say.
 

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Suffering is explained by existence. We crave therefore we suffer. If there was a god he could justify suffering in that conflict brings about the most growth.
 

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I am agnostic. Let's face it, it's impossible for any of us to prove whether god exists or doesn't exist beyond any reasonable doubt.
 

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Y gramar and puncutation u no can?
 

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This is funny. Jesus didn't exist neither did anybody esle that has no picture proof of. Lol Your wasting your money on these courses of this is the best you can say.

well then, instead of laughing, how about you provide some substantial proof to back up your fantasy. with writing about him surfacing a century later, and outside the Bible's New Testament, there is nothing historical we have about this Jesus Christ.

I'm wasting my money on courses? I don't know if you're aware, but you go to school to become proficient in these things.

So what's your proof? Because you said so?

Sigh, another person on this base failing to use citations U_U
 

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1.if he not exist who makes us and why? 2.Is he has super powers ? if yes,then why people suffer. If no,why we call him god.

1. Whether he exists or not is something I can't say. To me, GOD is UNIVERSE itself. And thus in a way it did created us. As for how we came into existence, go take a science class of EVOLUTION, and we didn't evolved from monkeys [ as in popular belief ].

2. Can't answer whether he has superpowers or not, but if it is capable of creating energy from nothing, then boy ain't that some feat?

As for why we suffer or whatever, it's because every man who is born in this mortal world, every angel in heaven realm and every demon in hell realm is bound by his ultimate rule of "Karma".

The principle of Karma states that their exists 3 parts of Karma-

1. Sanchit Karmas - Those stored in the stock of Karmas that do not give instant fruits and need time to ripen. These include Karmas of the present birth as well as those of the past births.

2. Prarabdha Karmas - Those Karma that have ripened from the huge sanchit pool, that contribute towards the formation of present body. The karmas form the destiny of the lifeform[ human in our case]. Hence during the life of a person, certain factors such as life span, disease, happiness, misery, family relations and friends are pre-destined.

3. Kriyaman Karmas - Those performed everyday in the present birth.

One has to live through prarabdha karmas, only then does the body perish. In case a person dies without completing his portion of parabdha karmas, such as in mass calamity or suicide, then the person takes birth again to work out these karmas.

The mechanism how it works is simple actually. Take an example of Analogy of Granary. There is a tap in the lower lever of the jar. First you poured rice [ let's consider it as your good deeds in a life ], the after that wheat [bad deeds], etc. The moment you open the tap, first it will be rice that will fall and then wheat. Similarly in life when a person performs bad karmas, the fruits will not be instant because one's current layer of pleasure is prevailing. When this wears off, the second layer of misery starts and so on.

One has to completely eradicate the Sanchit karma to get free from the process of re-birth and suffering. That can be done only when one follows the path of "Dharma" [ Righteous or Justice ] without any lust for getting a pleasure for doing the just task or any fear of getting misery for doing that task. One only should do what is right for the lives of millions without any feeling of self gain, only then he can free himself from the cycle of rebirth.

Now I believe in the philosophy and teachings of Lord Krishna, not because I am religious but only because I like his beliefs and teachings. According to him, everyone has some part of GOD in itself, though people throughout their life keep struggling to find the truth outside when it's actually inside.

He said in BhagwatGeeta -
"karmany evadhikaras te
ma phalesu kadachana
ma karma-phala-hetur bhur
ma te sango ’stv akarmani" (Bhagwat Gita: Chapter Two verse 47)

"Sri Krishna said: You have a right to perform your prescribed duty, but you are not entitled to the fruits of action. Never consider yourself the cause of the results of your activities, and never be attached to not doing your duty."
 

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well then, instead of laughing, how about you provide some substantial proof to back up your fantasy. with writing about him surfacing a century later, and outside the Bible's New Testament, there is nothing historical we have about this Jesus Christ.

I'm wasting my money on courses? I don't know if you're aware, but you go to school to become proficient in these things.

So what's your proof? Because you said so?

Sigh, another person on this base failing to use citations U_U


Well the earliest proof of Jesus that can be found is ..... As for the earliest dated Bible was in Greek Language and not in the language of his so called hometown and that too surfaced after 300 years of his death.
 

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Well the earliest proof of Jesus that can be found is ..... As for the earliest dated Bible was in Greek Language and not in the language of his so called hometown and that too surfaced after 300 years of his death.

I'm not a christian (as you can tell from my profile) but I doubt his apostles would martyr themselves for a fictional character.
 

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1.if he not exist who makes us and why? 2.Is he has super powers ? if yes,then why people suffer. If no,why we call him god.


God made the first human beings for us to populate the world at first, but now since Jesus Christ has come into the world. He wants us to believe in Him and to spread the Gospel to everyone who hasn't heard about Jesus Christ and to follow Jesus Christ and what He taught. The reason why people suffer is because of sin. Ever since sin came into the world we feel pain, we age, we get sick, and other things happen to us.
 

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Suffering is explained by existence. We crave therefore we suffer. If there was a god he could justify suffering in that conflict brings about the most growth.

God gave people the will to do what they desire. Poor argument.

OT: Yes, he is real.
 

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I'm not a christian (as you can tell from my profile) but I doubt his apostles would martyr themselves for a fictional character.

Well where there is power, there is a way :p 300 years after his death, it was King Constantine of Rome, if I remember correctly, who had this strange vision in his dream after which he woke up the next day and created what you know as Christianity with power. Those who didn't believed him and his dream guy, he named Jesus [Sun], he killed them. SO there you have it. All the paintings, literature and all came after this incident, if you were to believe in Anthropologists and Archaeologists and historians.
 

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Seeing is believing.
 

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Well where there is power, there is a way :p 300 years after his death, it was King Constantine of Rome, if I remember correctly, who had this strange vision in his dream after which he woke up the next day and created what you know as Christianity with power. Those who didn't believed him and his dream guy, he named Jesus [Sun], he killed them. SO there you have it. All the paintings, literature and all came after this incident, if you were to believe in Anthropologists and Archaeologists and historians.

Titus Flavius Josephus wrote about the historical Jesus. He was born about the same time that Jesus of Nazareth was executed (37ad). Christianity and Gnosticism were already very large in the Roman underground during Constantine I's reign. It was his mother who declared many of the holy sites, holy, and the persecutions stopped under Constantine. Persecutions began quickly after Jesus's execution. It would be understandable that a few random nut jobs might die for a fictional character, or a fraud (look at David Koresh), but not 100s to thousands. Something was real there. Now, god and resurrection...I would be skeptical.
 

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Titus Flavius Josephus wrote about the historical Jesus. He was born about the same time that Jesus of Nazareth was executed (37ad). Christianity and Gnosticism were already very large in the Roman underground during Constantine I's reign. It was his mother who declared many of the holy sites, holy, and the persecutions stopped under Constantine. Persecutions began quickly after Jesus's execution. It would be understandable that a few random nut jobs might die for a fictional character, or a fraud (look at David Koresh), but not 100s to thousands. Something was real there. Now, god and resurrection...I would be skeptical.

Like I said all these were made up stories afterwards unless you provide me some proof. What I said is what I read in one of the works of Historians. Ofcourse I am not negating the possibility of some real history there.
 

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Like I said all these were made up stories afterwards unless you provide me some proof. What I said is what I read in one of the works of Historians. Ofcourse I am not negating the possibility of some real history there.

Titus Flavius Josephus was a real Roman historian who wrote under Titus. He also lived in Jerusalem during that time. If you discredit him as a historian than you might as well discredit the existence of Julius Caesar.
 
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