BSM minato vs current naruto

[wael reda]

conditions:
this is BSM minato ,some people will say it is fanfic but that is the conditions of this thread
minato is in character,he can teleport to konoha for example then come back,also minato has marks some kms away from the battlefield
minato starts in his avatar plus he has no time limits in using it
minato can put marks with his chakra arms

restrictions:hype (because some people will come out and say naruto was powered up by hagromo,you cant put him in a fight with normal characters like minato

intel:
naruto doesnt know about ftg or s/t barrier,minato knows that naruto is so powerful ninja and his jutsu is so destructive

battle field :
where jiubi fought the shinobi allience

 

[Jimihendrix]

great... some more fanfic...

 

[KidGamer65]

Naruto shitstomps even worse than Sasuke does.

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

Naruto neg diff.
Not knowing about S/T barrier may be dangerous, but Naruto is still going to blitz Minato.

 

[Unorthodox]

BSM Naruto > BSM Minato

 

[wael reda]

what is naruto deal with that?
s/t barrier redicts all naruto attacks to a mark near naruto gg
how will naruto counter that ?minato was able te teleport jiubi sized jiubi doma ,what prevents him from teleporting naruto’s YRS OR ttbrs(whatever its name)to a mark near naruto

 

[wael reda]

BSM Naruto > BSM Minato

bsm minato if far above bsm naruto
teleporter kiuybi and s/t barrier redirects all attacks makes bsm minato far above bsm naruto

 

[Unorthodox]

bsm minato if far above bsm naruto
teleporter kiuybi and s/t barrier redirects all attacks makes bsm minato far above bsm naruto

no he isnt Naruto tbb=his he holds his kurama avatar longer gg minato all redirected tbbs are dodged

 

[lanakui8]

conditions:
this is BSM minato ,some people will say it is fanfic but that is the conditions of this thread
minato is in character,he can teleport to konoha for example then come back,also minato has marks some kms away from the battlefield
minato starts in his avatar plus he has no time limits in using it
minato can put marks with his chakra arms

restrictions:hype (because some people will come out and say naruto was powered up by hagromo,you cant put him in a fight with normal characters like minato

intel:
naruto doesnt know about ftg or s/t barrier,minato knows that naruto is so powerful ninja and his jutsu is so destructive

battle field :
where jiubi fought the shinobi allience

Depending on the distance, Naruto blitzes minato before he's able to react.

If Minato can somehow avoid the blitz, and naruto learns about his FTG being able to warp to seals, then he does tajuu kagebunshin and destroys all the seals around the battlefield.

Naruto flies, which keeps him away from the seals and ends minato with TBB rasenshuriken. If minato goes to warp it away, naruto detonates it killing minato instantly.

The only thing Minato can do is run back to konoha before he gets killed.

 

[V h o]

Naruto wrecks.

 

[iNotorious]

Naruto -> Minato.

 

[wael reda]

Depending on the distance, Naruto blitzes minato before he's able to react.

If Minato can somehow avoid the blitz, and naruto learns about his FTG being able to warp to seals, then he does tajuu kagebunshin and destroys all the seals around the battlefield.

Naruto flies, which keeps him away from the seals and ends minato with TBB rasenshuriken. If minato goes to warp it away, naruto detonates it killing minato instantly.

The only thing Minato can do is run back to konoha before he gets killed.

minato starts in his avatar ,naruto cant beat him with speed,the avatar protects him

naruto doesnt know about ftg or s/t barrier ,also naruto never detonated frs or ttbrs before hiting the target ,plus he doesnt know about minato’s ability to warp objects

naruto can extend his attacks in the mid air,but it will still be warped instantly to a kunai near naruto like minato teleported jiubi sized ttb instantly

naruto flies when it is necessary ,like fighting an enemy who can fly or to evade an attack

minato can evade all naruto attacks by teleporting
if naruto tried to use his gudomas ,minato will teleport it away where naruto cant control them

i think naruto will lose by his own jutsus thanks to s/t barrier

 

[lanakui8]

minato starts in his avatar ,naruto cant beat him with speed,the avatar protects him

seems like fair stipulations.

naruto doesnt know about ftg or s/t barrier ,also naruto never detonated frs or ttbrs before hiting the target ,plus he doesnt know about minato’s ability to warp objects

Naruto obviously learns about both in his fight. Bolded is meaningless as Naruto was never in a situation where he had to detonate his techniques before they hit the target. After he knows minato can warp them away, he detonates them in minato's face.

naruto can extend his attacks in the mid air,but it will still be warped instantly to a kunai near naruto like minato teleported jiubi sized ttb instantly

How in the world is minato going to magically put a kunai next to someone as reflexive as naruto? How in the world is minato going to warp any of his attacks when naruto detonates them before minato does so?

naruto flies when it is necessary ,like fighting an enemy who can fly or to evade an attack

flying obviously gives him an advantage over a grounded opponent. Naruto flies.

minato can evade all naruto attacks by teleporting
if naruto tried to use his gudomas ,minato will teleport it away where naruto cant control them

Already defeated this point as naruto's clones destroy his sealing tags rendering him unable to teleport.

i think naruto will lose by his own jutsus thanks to s/t barrier

unless you can give some kind of logical explanation for how naruto doesn't just detonate that attack before minato gets close to it, Minato dies. Plus, even if minato warped the attack right on naruto, naruto has time to block it with his onmyouton shield which works as long as he doesn't put senjutsu into the attack.

Plus, naruto can just throw a couple of them, minato can only warp one, minato dies.

You know your argument holds no water when you have to assert naruto has the ability to beat minato, but he never uses those abilities 'just because'.

 

[wael reda]

seems like fair stipulations.


Naruto obviously learns about both in his fight. Bolded is meaningless as Naruto was never in a situation where he had to detonate his techniques before they hit the target. After he knows minato can warp them away, he detonates them in minato's face.


How in the world is minato going to magically put a kunai next to someone as reflexive as naruto? How in the world is minato going to warp any of his attacks when naruto detonates them before minato does so?


flying obviously gives him an advantage over a grounded opponent. Naruto flies.


Already defeated this point as naruto's clones destroy his sealing tags rendering him unable to teleport.


unless you can give some kind of logical explanation for how naruto doesn't just detonate that attack before minato gets close to it, Minato dies. Plus, even if minato warped the attack right on naruto, naruto has time to block it with his onmyouton shield which works as long as he doesn't put senjutsu into the attack.

Plus, naruto can just throw a couple of them, minato can only warp one, minato dies.

You know your argument holds no water when you have to assert naruto has the ability to beat minato, but he never uses those abilities 'just because'.

unless you give me manga scans that naruto can detonate his attacks before hitting the enemy or just stop ,plus the barrier can warp the explosion ,cant it?
whatever it isnt the point since naruto has never done that

naruto will learn after he dies,if minato used the s/t barrier to teleport ttbrs or yrs next to naruto ,it is gg ,current naruto uses senjutsu in his attacks,gudomas wont stop it

naruto’s clones arent destroying ftg marks in konoha,i made minato in character,and said he can teleport away to konoha then come back like he did in the manga ,by this way ,he will teleport the gudomas away

pre bm minato was able to teleport jiubi sized ttb ,so as long as naruto’s multiple ttbrs are smaller than the barrier,all ttbrs will be warped away,also minato doesnt need to warp them all ,he can teleport one and evade the rest by teleporting

sm minato put a kunai near jin madara ,so i think bsm minato using chakra arms can put a mark near naruto

 

[lanakui8]

unless you give me manga scans that naruto can detonate his attacks before hitting the enemy or just stop ,plus the barrier can warp the explosion ,cant it?
whatever it isnt the point since naruto has never done that

Why do I have to give you a manga scan of Naruto being able to detonate an attack before it hits the target when we have scans that show naruto detonates his attacks with his mind at any time he wants? Do i need to give you a manga scan of naruto doing a cartwheel to prove that naruto is capable of doing a cartwheel?

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The barrier was never shown or implied to be capable of warping away the actual explosion, especially an explosion over a hundred kilometers wide.

naruto will learn after he dies,if minato used the s/t barrier to teleport ttbrs or yrs next to naruto ,it is gg ,current naruto uses senjutsu in his attacks,gudomas wont stop it

Current Naruto chooses when to use senjutsu for his attacks and when not to. If Minato teleports the attack next to naruto, naruto simply doesn't detonate either. How does minato magically get a tag next to naruto in order to teleport an attack next to him?

Why would YRS even be GG for naruto? It wasn't GG for the less durable Madara.

naruto’s clones arent destroying ftg marks in konoha,i made minato in character,and said he can teleport away to konoha then come back like he did in the manga ,by this way ,he will teleport the gudomas away

If minato runs away to konoha, he loses do to ringout. Naruto detonates the gudoudamas killing minato. Or he sends a clone to konoha and destroys the tags there.

pre bm minato was able to teleport jiubi sized ttb ,so as long as naruto’s multiple ttbrs are smaller than the barrier,all ttbrs will be warped away,also minato doesnt need to warp them all ,he can teleport one and evade the rest by teleporting

Nope, the size of the TBB is irrelevant, it's the number of TBBs that's relevant and minato can't teleport more than one. Minato absolutely can't warp a bijuudama and teleport away before the others go off

sm minato put a kunai near jin madara ,so i think bsm minato using chakra arms can put a mark near naruto

Madara was fully aware of that kunai being there and let minat teleport to it so he could counter blitz minato.

Minato gets nuked while he tries to use his chakra arm to somehow get near Naruto in the air. Or naruto's clones just destroy minato with YRS while he's trying to do that.


So once again, you have to flat out deny naruto abilities that he clearly has in the manga and give minato magical abilities in order for minato to merely not get fodderized by Naruto, but still lose by ringout/battlefield removal. So no, naruto throws a bijuudama rasenshuriken, minato tries to warp it away and naruto blows it up in minato's face.

 

[Conspirator.]

Why do I have to give you a manga scan of Naruto being able to detonate an attack before it hits the target when we have scans that show naruto detonates his attacks with his mind at any time he wants? Do i need to give you a manga scan of naruto doing a cartwheel to prove that naruto is capable of doing a cartwheel?

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The barrier was never shown or implied to be capable of warping away the actual explosion, especially an explosion over a hundred kilometers wide.


Current Naruto chooses when to use senjutsu for his attacks and when not to. If Minato teleports the attack next to naruto, naruto simply doesn't detonate either. How does minato magically get a tag next to naruto in order to teleport an attack next to him?

Why would YRS even be GG for naruto? It wasn't GG for the less durable Madara.


If minato runs away to konoha, he loses do to ringout. Naruto detonates the gudoudamas killing minato. Or he sends a clone to konoha and destroys the tags there.


Nope, the size of the TBB is irrelevant, it's the number of TBBs that's relevant and minato can't teleport more than one. Minato absolutely can't warp a bijuudama and teleport away before the others go off


Madara was fully aware of that kunai being there and let minat teleport to it so he could counter blitz minato.

Minato gets nuked while he tries to use his chakra arm to somehow get near Naruto in the air. Or naruto's clones just destroy minato with YRS while he's trying to do that.


So once again, you have to flat out deny naruto abilities that he clearly has in the manga and give minato magical abilities in order for minato to merely not get fodderized by Naruto, but still lose by ringout/battlefield removal. So no, naruto throws a bijuudama rasenshuriken, minato tries to warp it away and naruto blows it up in minato's face.

I wouldn't waste my time trying to convince the OP-he's the most annoying and stubborn person to debate with on this site. With his shitty grammar to go with his shitty logic-responding to him is a headache.

 

[wael reda]

Why do I have to give you a manga scan of Naruto being able to detonate an attack before it hits the target when we have scans that show naruto detonates his attacks with his mind at any time he wants? Do i need to give you a manga scan of naruto doing a cartwheel to prove that naruto is capable of doing a cartwheel?

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The barrier was never shown or implied to be capable of warping away the actual explosion, especially an explosion over a hundred kilometers wide.


Current Naruto chooses when to use senjutsu for his attacks and when not to. If Minato teleports the attack next to naruto, naruto simply doesn't detonate either. How does minato magically get a tag next to naruto in order to teleport an attack next to him?

Why would YRS even be GG for naruto? It wasn't GG for the less durable Madara.


If minato runs away to konoha, he loses do to ringout. Naruto detonates the gudoudamas killing minato. Or he sends a clone to konoha and destroys the tags there.


Nope, the size of the TBB is irrelevant, it's the number of TBBs that's relevant and minato can't teleport more than one. Minato absolutely can't warp a bijuudama and teleport away before the others go off


Madara was fully aware of that kunai being there and let minat teleport to it so he could counter blitz minato.

Minato gets nuked while he tries to use his chakra arm to somehow get near Naruto in the air. Or naruto's clones just destroy minato with YRS while he's trying to do that.


So once again, you have to flat out deny naruto abilities that he clearly has in the manga and give minato magical abilities in order for minato to merely not get fodderized by Naruto, but still lose by ringout/battlefield removal. So no, naruto throws a bijuudama rasenshuriken, minato tries to warp it away and naruto blows it up in minato's face.

all scans you have dont show anything
first scan naruto makes 6 ttbrs ,does that show that naruto can detonate or make his attacks explode in the mid air ?,should i gave you scan to naruto’s 6 ttbrs hit the meteors ?
next one frs extended but didnt explode
naruto can extend his attacks but he never detonated it before hitting the target
how will naruto stop the teleported ttbrs from exploding,he hasnt shown something before,also bee was hit by his own biju doma when the jiubi redicted it by his finger

when it was said or showed that madara is less durable than naruto?also madara was badly damaged with yrs but for his regeneration that naruto most likely hasnt

as i said nothing naruto has can hit teleporter kiuybi

no ,the size of the barrier is the point not the number of attacks
i remember ,edo armless minato talked about not being able to make hand seals to use the barrier to teleport obito’s 4jiubi domas away
but i am on my phone ,it isnt easy to bring scans

minato doesnt need to mark naruto himself or put a mark few metres away,he need a mark 100 m away from naruto or something like that,naruto’s ttbrs range is so big ,you yourself said it is kms in the width

i didnt restrict naruto,i only made minato start in his avatar and be able to use it the whole fight

naruto really doesnt know about the s/t barrier

let’s stop arguing,none is going to change his thoughts

 

[Edward]

naruto would win easily lol

 

[lanakui8]

all scans you have dont show anything
first scan naruto makes 6 ttbrs ,does that show that naruto can detonate or make his attacks explode in the mid air ?,should i gave you scan to naruto’s 6 ttbrs hit the meteors ?

in that scan we literally see the TBBs not making any contact with the meteors yet go off. So that conclusively proves that naruto can detonate them whenever he wants to.

next one frs extended but didnt explode

It expanded and then it exploded. Bijuudama rasenshurikens explode, they don't expand, therefore they explode.

naruto can extend his attacks but he never detonated it before hitting the target

He literally did that in all the panels I've shown you. Not only that, but why in the world does naruto have to do that when we know naruto detonates his attacks by thought? Unless you give some kind of argument for why naruto can't do that, all the evidence says that he can, nothing says he can't and therefore Naruto can.

how will naruto stop the teleported ttbrs from exploding,he hasnt shown something before,also bee was hit by his own biju doma when the jiubi redicted it by his finger

um he stops it from exploding because he's the one who detonates them, he simply chooses not to detonate them when they are in his face. So what if bee was hit by his own bijuudama?

when it was said or showed that madara is less durable than naruto?also madara was badly damaged with yrs but for his regeneration that naruto most likely hasnt

It was shown when Naruto took multiple chakra punches from kaguya without even a sign of damage while madara's clone gets hurt from getting whacked by an onmyouton stick. Now what evidence do YOU have that madara is MORE durable than Naruto? Since when does Naruto not have regeneration?

as i said nothing naruto has can hit teleporter kiuybi

Based on absolutely nothing.

no ,the size of the barrier is the point not the number of attacks
i remember ,edo armless minato talked about not being able to make hand seals to use the barrier to teleport obito’s 4jiubi domas away
but i am on my phone ,it isnt easy to bring scans

Armless edo minato said no such thing. Edo tobirama who was more than capable of making clones and handseals said that both he and minato could only teleport one of them away.

Unless you give some kind of argument for how minato teleports both of them away, he's limited to one as was stated in canon.

minato doesnt need to mark naruto himself or put a mark few metres away,he need a mark 100 m away from naruto or something like that,naruto’s ttbrs range is so big ,you yourself said it is kms in the width

If minato is close enough to put a mark anywhere near naruto, then he's within the explosion of the bijuudama rasenshuriken. Naruto blocks that explosion with his onmyouton, minato gets destroyed by it.

i didnt restrict naruto,i only made minato start in his avatar and be able to use it the whole fight

Sure you did. You're saying that despite naruto explicitly shown on multiple occasions to be capable of detonating his rasenshurikens by thought, he for some magical reason can't do that unless it hits something simply because he never detonated them before they hit something.

naruto really doesnt know about the s/t barrier

and minato doesn't know about naruto being able to detonate his attacks by thought. Naruto throws a bijuudama rasenshuriken, minato goes to warp it away and naruto detonates it in his face just like he detonated them before they touched the meteors.

let’s stop arguing,none is going to change his thoughts

who's "his"?

 

[Haizaki]

What a stomp match.